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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: Matthew on April 27, 2020, 09:38:48 AM
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Why are they taking out a FULL PAGE AD in the New York Times, to spread fear porn?
What's in it for them? You can't tell me they're spending that kind of money to scare people, out of the goodness of their heart.
Maybe they hope to set off panic buying, while they rake in the dough for their product -- or something.
They say that 4 employees have died "of COVID-19". I don't believe it. They probably died of something else, and were either asymptomatic carriers, or they had the antibodies because they received a flu vaccine in the past 10 years.
But even if 4 people died, a few points:
These are not small processing plants with 20 employees. This is NATIONWIDE for a huge agri-business conglomerate. How many employees do they have -- hundreds of thousands? How many Tyson employees die on a regular basis from car accidents, heart attacks, cancer, stroke, medical error, ѕυιcιdє? Statistically, they should have a couple of employee deaths every DAY.
Death always sounds terrifying and whatnot, but WELCOME TO EARTH. We're mortal. Men were punished by God with the punishment of having to work to support their families (women received two punishments: submission to their husband, and pain in childbirth) Frankly, many jobs worked by men involve a very real flirt with death every single day. For example, any man who drives to work.
And for the white collar nerds, you are probably shortening your life by about 10 years if you have a sit-down job. Science has proven it. Unless you take regular breaks every hour, keep your legs moving on purpose, use a Standing Desk, etc.
But my bull**** detector went off loud and clear with this Tyson situation. What does Tyson hope to accomplish with this ad? And what do they hope to accomplish by closing additional plants? To avoid "a few deaths"? Boo freaking hoo! What happens when REAL panic buying is set off, which will be 30X worse than anything we've seen so far (remember toilet paper, bread, eggs, milk, yeast?) because people will be genuinely terrified that RESTOCK MIGHT NOT HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON, at least not the next morning.
How many people will die in the ensuing RIOTS and STARVATION that will occur if Tyson shuts their plants? Let's face it, we're dependent on huge mega-corporations for our food at this point. There is almost no redundancy or small companies to step in and fill the void. Just look at what % of people live in mega cities on both coasts. You can't produce any quantity of meat IN those places.
Hiccups in grocery store logistics (like we've seen so far) are an inconvenience. GENUINE SUPPLY ISSUES result in much worse shortages -- and much worse panic buying.
https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/food-supply-chain-breaking-tyson-foods-chairman-claims-plant-coronavirus-closures (https://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/food-supply-chain-breaking-tyson-foods-chairman-claims-plant-coronavirus-closures)
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P.S. After living through a few months of 2020, anyone clinging to normalcy bias, "It hasn't happened thus far, so it isn't likely to happen" is a naive fool.
Did you think last October that you'd see huge sections of empty shelves at your grocery store? Did you think you wouldn't be able to buy toilet paper? Did you think the Stock Market could fall from 30,000 down to about 18,000? Did you think every Normie on the block could be convinced to start a garden and take up baking? Did you think the whole country would be shut down?
That's what I thought.
Use your imagination a little. It doesn't take much imagination at this point to envision what might be ahead. Think: second wave. Riots. Actual shortages of food.
If "normies" (average person who is ignorant and mostly asleep) are starting gardens, we should have small self-sufficient farms, or working towards that. We need to stay AHEAD of the curve, not fall behind.
We're supposed to be non-brainwashed Traditional Catholics here. We know better. We're supposed to believe in Fatima, the Chastisement, and the justice of God.
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My local Costco is extremely low on fresh meat.
The entire section that used to hold the meat, several waist-high refrigerated display cases, have now been filled with produce. The meat had all been consolidated into one small section.
My local grocery store has very little meat also. It was also very low on produce. The frozen food section is nearly empty. Something is going very wrong with the supply chain.
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What happens when REAL panic buying is set off, which will be 30X worse than anything we've seen so far
GENUINE SUPPLY ISSUES result in much worse shortages -- and much worse panic buying.
There is no panic buying possible in our area because there is nothing there to "buy."
If we had a "panic buying" episode, our stores would be empty in a couple hours.
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I'd like to say something about the meat supply. We live in an ag/rural area, where there are a lot of confinement barns for animals. We know quite a few of these animal "farmers", and even though my husband and I DO NOT agree with confinement, we are friendly with the operators. Many of them have animals--sized for butchering--just sitting there. They aren't being picked up for slaughter because of all the meat processing plant closures. We know one person who hasn't had eggs picked up for several weeks. They just keep piling up...not to mention the dairy farmers that are dumping milk.
It's really happening. This isn't something made up by the media.
What gets me is that if you were to take 5 gallons of this milk, a beef, a pork, and a couple chickens to every house in town, and gave it to them, most people wouldn't know what to do with it anyway. Most of it would still go to waste.
We ordered garden seeds 1 month ago, and still haven't received them, because the company is so far behind on filling the vast amounts of orders. When we ordered, all the companies we normally ordered from were not accepting any more orders because of the huge amounts of orders they all had to fill. We ordered chicks to raise for meat--they were about sold out as well. Usually we get them in July because it works out to be a better time to butcher in the fall, but my husband ordered some now and another set for July, just in case.
But what are people going to do in the winter? How many of them are going to can/freeze/dehydrate or in any way preserve their garden's summer bounty? How many even know how? How many of you know how?
I strongly encourage each and every one of you to learn how to can and dehydrate your foods. Those with larger families probably already buy in bulk, but if at all possible, buy bulk amounts of salt and other dry goods. You can make do without a lot, if you have to, but salt is pretty hard to do without. If you can, go online and get 50 or 100# of good quality sea salt. Yes, it's expensive, but it'll keep for a long, long time.
I'm not trying to be an alarmist--just facing the reality of the coming hard times. Even if it turns out this go-round isn't "it" as far as our world changing completely, it's really only a matter of time. Your efforts won't be wasted either way.
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I'd like to say something about the meat supply. We live in an ag/rural area, where there are a lot of confinement barns for animals. We know quite a few of these animal "farmers", and even though my husband and I DO NOT agree with confinement, we are friendly with the operators. Many of them have animals--sized for butchering--just sitting there. They aren't being picked up for slaughter because of all the meat processing plant closures. We know one person who hasn't had eggs picked up for several weeks. They just keep piling up...not to mention the dairy farmers that are dumping milk.
It's really happening. This isn't something made up by the media.
What gets me is that if you were to take 5 gallons of this milk, a beef, a pork, and a couple chickens to every house in town, and gave it to them, most people wouldn't know what to do with it anyway. Most of it would still go to waste.
We ordered garden seeds 1 month ago, and still haven't received them, because the company is so far behind on filling the vast amounts of orders. When we ordered, all the companies we normally ordered from were not accepting any more orders because of the huge amounts of orders they all had to fill. We ordered chicks to raise for meat--they were about sold out as well. Usually we get them in July because it works out to be a better time to butcher in the fall, but my husband ordered some now and another set for July, just in case.
But what are people going to do in the winter? How many of them are going to can/freeze/dehydrate or in any way preserve their garden's summer bounty? How many even know how? How many of you know how?
I strongly encourage each and every one of you to learn how to can and dehydrate your foods. Those with larger families probably already buy in bulk, but if at all possible, buy bulk amounts of salt and other dry goods. You can make do without a lot, if you have to, but salt is pretty hard to do without. If you can, go online and get 50 or 100# of good quality sea salt. Yes, it's expensive, but it'll keep for a long, long time.
I'm not trying to be an alarmist--just facing the reality of the coming hard times. Even if it turns out this go-round isn't "it" as far as our world changing completely, it's really only a matter of time. Your efforts won't be wasted either way.
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It certainly seems as though they are trying to cause food shortages and starvation.
Processing plants closing because of a virus (or 5G?) which is much less dangerous than the common flu doesn’t seem to justify the response.
What a wake-up call this is to get out of the city and become self-sufficient (too late now, though).
Piles of meat, produce, and milk going right into the dump.
In Minnesota (where Tyson is), they killed 3,000 healthy pigs, and announced another 200,000 would likely also be wasted for lack of processing.
Meanwhile, I just looked through beef and pork ads on Craigslist in Minnesota, and not one farmer giving it away, or even discounting it. They would rather bury it than give it away, setting us up for disaster.
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Factory farms and their fake "chickens" need to go the way of the Dodo anyway as they are poisoning millions on a daily basis. There's a lot immoral and unethical in our "food" processing systems in this country to begin with that just needs to go away. And I am in no way a vegan of the sort, but I have to admit, I've never been into eating that disgusting many-colored, feathered biped to begin with.
Nothing "fishy" about Frankenchicken; ::)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-115588/Meet-Frankenchicken.html
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From a local farmer on Craigslist:
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/grd/d/northfield-butcher-ready-hogs-freezer/7113682156.html (https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/dak/grd/d/northfield-butcher-ready-hogs-freezer/7113682156.html)
Butcher ready Hogs freezer pork - $150(Northfield)
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Home grown live hogs available. 300 pound live weigh for $150. Will deliver to you for you to butcher.
All the processors and meat markets are full right now, so reaching out to Hunters and homesteaders who are looking to process their own and fill their freezers.
[Note: This is “live weight” (ie., How much the pig weighs walking around).
“Hanging weight” is how much the hog weighs after being gutted/slaughtered, which is generally 72% of live weight, so a 300lb hog will be 216lbs hanging weight.
“Commercial cuts” are what you actually bring home, and this averages about 67% of hanging weight.
So, of that 216lb hanging weight, you are bringing home 145lbs of pork.
So in the end, if you want to figure out the cost/pound of pork, you just add the live weight you paid to the farmer, plus the processing you paid to the butcher, and divide that by the commercial cut weight pounds of pork you take home (which you can anticipate being 50% of the live weight) -SJ]
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An even better deal from a farmer in southern Minnesota:
The Situation:
Unfortunately, the coronavirus has affected us all in so many different ways. With the recent closing of the Smithfield, Tyson, and other meat processing plants, farmers everywhere have been left with large sums of livestock with nowhere to go while consumers are preparing for meat shortages in grocery stores. The CEO of the Minnesota Pork Board estimated that farmers will have to euthanize 200,000 hogs in the state over the next several weeks.
The Sloot family has owned a small hog farm for over 60 years, and they currently have over 600 hogs on their farm in Winthrop, MN that they are seeking to sell to processors or consumers over the next few weeks. This number will increase over time if the meat processing facilities remain closed.
Please consider purchasing a fully butchered and processed hog from them in these strange and difficult times, and please spread the word to anyone you think may be interested.
The Black Angus of Pork:
The family prides itself on its relationship with Compart Family Farms (https://www.compartduroc.com/) where it sells the majority of its pork. Compart Family Farm pork, aka the Black Angus of Pork, is known for its premium quality and sells to top tier restaurants such as Manny’s Steakhouse (Minneapolis), Smoak BBQ (Rochester), and OMC Smokehouse (Duluth).
Each hog comes to market weighing approximately 280 lbs and yields roughly 110 – 120 lbs of pork (more if people order very specific cuts). As with all meat, exact yields are difficult to estimate but you will receive the butcher’s standard of pork quantity according to a 1 hog or 1⁄2 hog order. The family is offering portions of a whole hog or a half hog. Please see below for rough estimates of what that may look like.
The official order form (link on the following page) allows you to select precisely what you want!
Whole Hog Package:
Front Shoulder Cut – Steak / Roast (14 lbs)
Pork Loin – Tenderloin / Bone-in Pork Chops / Boneless Pork Chops (16 lbs)
Hind Legs – Steak / Fresh Ham Roast / Bone-in Smoked Ham (30 lbs)
Pork Belly – Smoked Bacon / Fresh Side Pork (22 lbs)
Ground Pork (27 lbs) Spare Ribs (6 lbs)
1⁄2 Hog Package:
Front Shoulder Cut – Steak / Roast (7 lbs)
Pork Loin – Tenderloin / Bone-in Pork Chops / Boneless Pork Chops (8 lbs)
Hind Legs – Steak / Fresh Ham Roast / Bone-in Smoked Ham (15 lbs)
Pork Belly – Smoked Bacon / Fresh Side Pork (11 lbs)
Ground Pork (14 lbs) Spare Ribs (3 lbs)
Payment:
The cost of a whole hog is $260 and a half hog is $130. Please pay via check at pickup. Checks can be made out to “John Sloot Inc.” This cost covers the market price of the hog as well as processing and packaging.
Also note that at current market prices, the family is still losing money on each hog they sell. If you are able, please consider adding a little extra!
Delivery / Pick-Up:
The pork will be available for pickup at the Winthrop Market (the town grocery store) in Winthrop, MN. We will give each buyer notice when their hog goes in with the date and time it will be available for pick-up (this will typically be about 10 days in advance of pick-up). There will be some wiggle room on pick-up date, but to keep the freezer from overflowing, please act quickly! To get in on the first round, please put your order in by Friday, May 1st, 2020. Later orders will be accepted but may take longer to prepare!
Please note that, due to a lack of butchers’ capacity at this time (everyone with excess livestock are going to butchers!), orders could be staggered out through the next few weeks or months.
By our best estimates, we believe a four-door sedan could hold 1 (possibly 2) hogs worth of pork while a pick- up truck could hold 4 (possibly 5) hogs worth of pork.
If you would like to place an order, please fill out the Google form below, and feel free to reach out to me (chaddavidberg@gmail.com; (651) 757-6464) or Kellie Sloot (yesterdayskitchen@gmail.com) with any questions. Thank you for your interest!
Order Form: https://forms.gle/dqUvmejazmEDn3kL7
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This is just Phase 2 of the program. Phase 1 was unemploying people. Phase 2 is to starve them. ... all so that people will be begging for the vaccine.
Main grocery store chains around here are largely out of meat. Thankfully we know of this independent farm and butcher shop here in Amish country that still has supply, and not many people know about it ... just the locals.
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Sounds like BUTCHERS would be the real heroes! They keep us fed.
Other so-called heroes (at least certain nurses) are busy jive dancing in the hospital hallways. They can keep dancing and take a long jump off a short pier, right into the lake.
I don't see or hear about nurses overworked thanks to COVID -- what I do see, again and again, is social media posts of them fooling around with nothing to do. Heroes my butt!
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soft Holodomor coming ... maybe a lot worse ... this is only the beginning ... hell is coming.
This morning I saw a guy in his 20s standing at an intersection with a "will work for food" sign. First time I've ever seen anyone there with that type of thing.
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Sounds like BUTCHERS would be the real heroes! They keep us fed.
Other so-called heroes (at least certain nurses) are busy jive dancing in the hospital hallways. They can keep dancing and take a long jump off a short pier, right into the lake.
I don't see or hear about nurses overworked thanks to COVID -- what I do see, again and again, is social media posts of them fooling around with nothing to do. Heroes my butt!
Lots of medical professionals are getting laid off ... because they cancelled all "non-essential" procedures.
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An even better deal from a farmer in southern Minnesota:
The Situation:
Unfortunately, the coronavirus has affected us all in so many different ways. With the recent closing of the Smithfield, Tyson, and other meat processing plants, farmers everywhere have been left with large sums of livestock with nowhere to go while consumers are preparing for meat shortages in grocery stores. The CEO of the Minnesota Pork Board estimated that farmers will have to euthanize 200,000 hogs in the state over the next several weeks.
The Sloot family has owned a small hog farm for over 60 years, and they currently have over 600 hogs on their farm in Winthrop, MN that they are seeking to sell to processors or consumers over the next few weeks. This number will increase over time if the meat processing facilities remain closed.
Please consider purchasing a fully butchered and processed hog from them in these strange and difficult times, and please spread the word to anyone you think may be interested.
The Black Angus of Pork:
The family prides itself on its relationship with Compart Family Farms (https://www.compartduroc.com/) where it sells the majority of its pork. Compart Family Farm pork, aka the Black Angus of Pork, is known for its premium quality and sells to top tier restaurants such as Manny’s Steakhouse (Minneapolis), Smoak BBQ (Rochester), and OMC Smokehouse (Duluth).
Each hog comes to market weighing approximately 280 lbs and yields roughly 110 – 120 lbs of pork (more if people order very specific cuts). As with all meat, exact yields are difficult to estimate but you will receive the butcher’s standard of pork quantity according to a 1 hog or 1⁄2 hog order. The family is offering portions of a whole hog or a half hog. Please see below for rough estimates of what that may look like.
The official order form (link on the following page) allows you to select precisely what you want!
Whole Hog Package:
Front Shoulder Cut – Steak / Roast (14 lbs)
Pork Loin – Tenderloin / Bone-in Pork Chops / Boneless Pork Chops (16 lbs)
Hind Legs – Steak / Fresh Ham Roast / Bone-in Smoked Ham (30 lbs)
Pork Belly – Smoked Bacon / Fresh Side Pork (22 lbs)
Ground Pork (27 lbs) Spare Ribs (6 lbs)
1⁄2 Hog Package:
Front Shoulder Cut – Steak / Roast (7 lbs)
Pork Loin – Tenderloin / Bone-in Pork Chops / Boneless Pork Chops (8 lbs)
Hind Legs – Steak / Fresh Ham Roast / Bone-in Smoked Ham (15 lbs)
Pork Belly – Smoked Bacon / Fresh Side Pork (11 lbs)
Ground Pork (14 lbs) Spare Ribs (3 lbs)
Payment:
The cost of a whole hog is $260 and a half hog is $130. Please pay via check at pickup. Checks can be made out to “John Sloot Inc.” This cost covers the market price of the hog as well as processing and packaging.
Also note that at current market prices, the family is still losing money on each hog they sell. If you are able, please consider adding a little extra!
Delivery / Pick-Up:
The pork will be available for pickup at the Winthrop Market (the town grocery store) in Winthrop, MN. We will give each buyer notice when their hog goes in with the date and time it will be available for pick-up (this will typically be about 10 days in advance of pick-up). There will be some wiggle room on pick-up date, but to keep the freezer from overflowing, please act quickly! To get in on the first round, please put your order in by Friday, May 1st, 2020. Later orders will be accepted but may take longer to prepare!
Please note that, due to a lack of butchers’ capacity at this time (everyone with excess livestock are going to butchers!), orders could be staggered out through the next few weeks or months.
By our best estimates, we believe a four-door sedan could hold 1 (possibly 2) hogs worth of pork while a pick- up truck could hold 4 (possibly 5) hogs worth of pork.
If you would like to place an order, please fill out the Google form below, and feel free to reach out to me (chaddavidberg@gmail.com; (651) 757-6464) or Kellie Sloot (yesterdayskitchen@gmail.com) with any questions. Thank you for your interest!
Order Form: https://forms.gle/dqUvmejazmEDn3kL7
Check this out:
I just got off the phone with this farmer, and he said he received such an overwhelming response that this program is suspended.
But it is not suspended because he ran out of hogs (the orders he took only covered a fraction of his herd), but because he does not have enough butchers to keep up with demand!
This means that he will still likely end up having to euthanize most of the herd (unless someone wants to process/package the pig themselves), because the pigs will continue to grow, and Tyson was one of the only companies that would accept 300lb hogs, and they closed).
So by the time he can process and sell (thereby freeing up storage space) the ones he took orders for , most of his herd will not be marketable (ie., 300lb+ pigs have too much fat to be marketable, and nobody wants to pay for fat), so he will have to shoot them all.
Keep in mind this same paradox/dilemma is being repeated by cattle, foul, produce, and dairy farmers all over America (and all for plants shutting down over a fraudulent virus about as deadly as the chicken pox)!
Ps: As panic reaches new heights today, with mainstream media broadcasting the coming shortages, I might make my wY down to a Walmart to make a YouTube video of depleted shelves, questions to customers (masked and unmasked) to get their opinions on the whole situation, and upload it in the next couple days.
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The zombies will be in such despair in their hunger, destitution, and starvation, they'll start eating each other. Predictive programming through allegory, and mockery of future victims, is part of the Jєωιѕн-produced and written TV show The Walking Dead. Theme is a pandemic causing zombies to eat other people, and even hungry people eating other people.
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Ahhh, Minnesota...
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-livestock-insight/piglets-aborted-chickens-gassed-as-pandemic-slams-meat-sector-idUSKCN2292YS (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-livestock-insight/piglets-aborted-chickens-gassed-as-pandemic-slams-meat-sector-idUSKCN2292YS)
Piglets aborted, chickens gassed as pandemic slams meat sector
Tom Polansek (https://www.reuters.com/journalists/tom-polansek), P.J. Huffstutter (https://www.reuters.com/journalists/pj-huffstutter)
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CHICAGO (Reuters) - With the pandemic hobbling the meat-packing industry, Iowa farmer Al Van Beek had nowhere to ship his full-grown pigs to make room for the 7,500 piglets he expected from his breeding operation. The crisis forced a decision that still troubles him: He ordered his employees to give injections to the pregnant sows, one by one, that would cause them to abort their baby pigs.
Van Beek and other farmers say they have no choice but to cull livestock as they run short on space to house their animals or money to feed them, or both. The world’s biggest meat companies - including Smithfield Foods Inc, Cargill Inc, JBS USA and Tyson Foods Inc - have halted operations at about 20 slaughterhouses and processing plants in North America since April as workers fall ill, stoking global fears of a meat shortage.
Van Beek’s piglets are victims of a sprawling food-industry crisis that began with the mass closure of restaurants - upending that sector’s supply chain, overwhelming storage and forcing farmers and processors to destroy everything from milk to salad greens to animals. Processors geared up to serve the food-service industry can’t immediately switch to supplying grocery stores.
Millions of pigs, chickens and cattle will be euthanized because of slaughterhouse closures, limiting supplies at grocers, said John Tyson, chairman of top U.S. meat supplier Tyson Foods.
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Pork has been hit especially hard, with daily production cut by about a third. Unlike cattle, which can be housed outside on pasture, U.S. hogs are fattened up for slaughter inside temperature-controlled buildings. If they are housed too long, they can get too big and injure themselves. The barns need to be emptied out by sending adult hogs to slaughter before the arrival of new piglets from sows that were impregnated just before the pandemic.
“We have nowhere to go with the pigs,” said Van Beek, who lamented the waste of so much meat. “What are we going to do?”
In Minnesota, farmers Kerry and Barb Mergen felt their hearts pound when a crew from Daybreak Foods Inc arrived with carts and tanks of carbon dioxide to euthanize their 61,000 egg-laying hens earlier this month.
Daybreak Foods, based in Lake Mills, Wisconsin, supplies liquid eggs to restaurants and food-service companies. The company, which owns the birds, pays contract farmers like the Mergens to feed and care for them. Drivers normally load the eggs onto trucks and haul them to a plant in Big Lake, Minnesota, which uses them to make liquid eggs for restaurants and ready-to-serve dishes for food-service companies. But the plant’s operator, Cargill Inc, said it idled the facility because the pandemic reduced demand. [/font][/size]
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Daybreak Foods, which has about 14.5 million hens with contractor-run or company-owned farms in the Midwest, is trying to switch gears and ship eggs to grocery stores, said Chief Executive Officer William Rehm. But egg cartons are in shortage nationwide and the company now must grade each egg for size, he said.
Rehm declined to say how much of the company’s flock has been euthanized.
“We’re trying to balance our supply with our customers’ needs, and still keep everyone safe - including all of our people and all our hens,” Rehm said.
DUMPING HOGS IN A LANDFILL
In Iowa, farmer Dean Meyer said he is part of a group of about nine producers who are euthanizing the smallest 5% of their newly born pigs, or about 125 piglets a week. They will continue euthanizing animals until disruptions ease, and could increase the number of pigs killed each week, he said. The small bodies are composted and will become fertilizer. Meyer’s group is also killing mother hogs, or sows, to reduce their numbers, he said.
Hog farmer Mike Patterson's animals, who have been put on a diet so they take longer to fatten up due to the supply chain disruptions caused by coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreaks, at his property in Kenyon, Minnesota, U.S. April 23, 2020. REUTERS/Nicholas Pfosi
“Packers are backed up every day, more and more,” said Meyer.
As the United States faces a possible food shortage, and supermarkets and food banks are struggling to meet demand, the forced slaughters are becoming more widespread across the country, according to agricultural economists, farm trade groups and federal lawmakers who are hearing from farmer constituents.
Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds, along with both U.S. senators from a state that provides a third of the nation’s pork, sent a letter to the Trump administration pleading for financial help and assistance with culling animals and properly disposing of their carcasses.
“There are 700,000 pigs across the nation that cannot be processed each week and must be humanely euthanized,” said the April 27 letter.
The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) said late Friday it is establishing a National Incident Coordination Center to help farmers find markets for their livestock, or euthanize and dispose of animals if necessary.
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Some producers who breed livestock and sell baby pigs to farmers are now giving them away for free, farmers said, translating to a loss about $38 on each piglet, according to commodity firm Kerns & Associates.
Farmers in neighboring Canada are also killing animals they can’t sell or afford to feed. The value of Canadian isoweans - baby pigs – has fallen to zero because of U.S. processing plant disruptions, said Rick Bergmann, a Manitoba hog farmer and chair of the Canadian Pork Council. In Quebec alone, a backlog of 92,000 pigs waits for slaughter, said Quebec hog producer Rene Roy, an executive with the pork council.
A hog farm on Prince Edward Island in Canada euthanized 270-pound hogs that were ready for slaughter because there was no place to process them, Bergmann said. The animals were dumped in a landfill.
DEATH THREATS
The latest economic disaster to befall the farm sector comes after years of extreme weather, sagging commodity prices and the Trump administration’s trade war with China and other key export markets. But it’s more than lost income. The pandemic barreling through farm towns has mired rural communities in despair, a potent mix of shame and grief.
Farmers take pride in the fact that their crops and animals are meant to feed people, especially in a crisis that has idled millions of workers and forced many to rely on food banks. Now, they’re destroying crops and killing animals for no purpose.
Farmers flinch when talking about killing off animals early or plowing crops into the ground, for fear of public wrath. Two Wisconsin dairy farmers, forced to dump milk by their buyers, told Reuters they recently received anonymous death threats.
“They say, ‘How dare you throw away food when so many people are hungry?’,” said one farmer, speaking on condition of anonymity. “They don’t know how farming works. This makes me sick, too.”
Even as livestock and crop prices plummet, prices for meat and eggs at grocery stores are up. The average retail price of eggs was up nearly 40% for the week ended April 18, compared to a year earlier, according to Nielsen data. Average retail fresh chicken prices were up 5.4%, while beef was up 5.8% and pork up 6.6%.
On Van Beek’s farm in Rock Valley, Iowa, one hog broke a leg because it grew too heavy while waiting to be slaughtered. He has delivered pigs to facilities that are still operating, but they are too full to take all of his animals.
Van Beek paid $2,000 to truck pigs about seven hours to a Smithfield plant in Illinois, more than quadruple the usual cost to haul them to a Sioux Falls, South Dakota, slaughterhouse that the company has closed indefinitely. He said Smithfield is supposed to pay the extra transportation costs under his contract. But the company is refusing to do so, claiming “force majeure” – that an extraordinary and unforeseeable event prevents it from fulfilling its agreement.
Smithfield, the world’s largest pork processor, declined to comment on whether it has refused to make contracted payments. It said the company is working with suppliers “to navigate these challenging and unprecedented times.”
Hog farmers nationwide will lose an estimated $5 billion, or $37 per head, for the rest of the year due to pandemic disruptions, according to the industry group National Pork Producers Council.
A recently announced $19 billion U.S. government coronavirus aid package for farmers will not pay for livestock that are culled, according to the American Farm Bureau Federation, the nation’s largest farmer trade group. The USDA said in a statement the payment program is still being developed and the agency has received more requests for assistance than it has money to handle.
Minnesota farmer Mike Patterson started feeding his pigs more soybean hulls – which fill animals’ stomachs but offer negligible nutritional value – to keep them from getting too large for their barns. He’s considering euthanizing them because he cannot find enough buyers after Smithfield indefinitely shut its massive Sioux Falls plant.
“They have to be housed humanely,” Patterson said. “If there’s not enough room, we have to have less hogs somehow. One way or another, we’ve got to have less hogs.[/font][/size]
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Time to learn to butcher, men....
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My husband has said for years it's irresponsible not to save seeds, to buy hens only for laying that no longer have the instinct to go broody, etc. Folks rolled their eyes at him. Now folks are suddenly on board with him.
We cannot rely on seed banks to buy seeds from, big hatcheries and corporations to grow or raise up our food. I fear it's coming to a point that simply buying seeds and buying feed for your chickens will no longer cut it. Time to learn homesteading skills and quick.
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What is the government doing about this?
This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?
Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?
What kind of clown world system are we in?
It's hard to refute the Communists when crap like this is going on in Capitalist USA. I thought "The Profit Motive" made industry most efficient, made it work well, etc.?
If I weren't a hard-core anti-Communist for religious reasons, I would sure be tempted to think that a State takeover of all farms, processing plants, warehouses, storage facilities, and grocery stores would be for the betterment of mankind. Think of all the starving people in America and elsewhere, as these farmers literally plough recently "euthanized" pigs into the ground -- right next to the hundreds of gallons of milk they just dumped!
Maybe the problem is everyone is so lazy, they are only fit for (and ripe for) a Communist government, which is what we're going to get. In the 1950's you'd have guys buying up these hogs, starting businesses, slaughtering and selling them, etc.
Today, the young people who SHOULD have the most energy, drive, and motivation are millennials and zoomers sitting at home in front of various screens, complaining there are no good jobs. We're screwed.
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What is the government doing about this?
This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?
Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?
What kind of clown world system are we in?
It's hard to refute the Communists when crap like this is going on in Capitalist USA. I thought "The Profit Motive" made industry most efficient, made it work well, etc.?
If I weren't a hard-core anti-Communist for religious reasons, I would sure be tempted to think that a State takeover of all farms, processing plants, warehouses, storage facilities, and grocery stores would be for the betterment of mankind. Think of all the starving people in America and elsewhere, as these farmers literally plough recently "euthanized" pigs into the ground -- right next to the hundreds of gallons of milk they just dumped!
Maybe the problem is everyone is so lazy, they are only fit for (and ripe for) a Communist government, which is what we're going to get. In the 1950's you'd have guys buying up these hogs, starting businesses, slaughtering and selling them, etc.
Today, the young people who SHOULD have the most energy, drive, and motivation are millennials and zoomers sitting at home in front of various screens, complaining there are no good jobs. We're screwed.
In the least read of all Fr. Fahey’s books (The Church and Farming), he relates a humorous story about government subsidized farming, which goes something like this:
A farmer is mystified about how, allegedly, the “law” of supply and demand can cause the government to want to pay him NOT to plant crops in his 40 acres.
Thinking about it a bit more, the farmer turns to his wife and declares, “Just imagine how much money I could have made if I didn’t plant 1,000 acres!!”
And there, Matthew, is what is broken in capitalism:
Supply/demand is inherently vulnerable to market manipulation (eg., government subsidization of various industries, etc.).
Hillaire Belloc (a contemporary of Fr. Fahey) wrote a book called “The Servile State,” whose primary thesis is that capitalism leads to communism (in part, because of the discontentment such unjust practices engender in the people, who suffer the injustices of deliberate inflation and deflation, both of which are taxes), among other things.
I think we are seeing that very transformation transpire before our very eyes.
They are killing the country because we can no longer pay our bankers back. So they will flip the coin, and allow Russia to become capitalist, while America will soon relive Solzhenitsyn’s nightmare.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TffJSaVlME (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TffJSaVlME)
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My husband has said for years it's irresponsible not to save seeds, to buy hens only for laying that no longer have the instinct to go broody, etc. Folks rolled their eyes at him. Now folks are suddenly on board with him.
We cannot rely on seed banks to buy seeds from, big hatcheries and corporations to grow or raise up our food. I fear it's coming to a point that simply buying seeds and buying feed for your chickens will no longer cut it. Time to learn homesteading skills and quick.
Saving Seeds at Home with Vandana Shiva - YouTube
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_rel_pause&v=Xar4vixyzUs&ebc=ANyPxKrsGnI7KUlUKJUKDkwcW-JD-PV7cxq7FeJHhIJGIDJ9oBfKV2BFa6iNBcKvJBhOirF87wrVvc3lWvqsbJjcXiVRWGVeig
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What is the government doing about this?
This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?
Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?
This is obviously being done on purpose. There's enough demand that the stores of running out, and yet they're destroying livestock. Simple capitalistic greed would ensure that the demand in stores was met. There are no economic laws to explain this.
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What is broken with the system?
Most of the governors, mayors, politicians, cardinals, bishops, priests, CEOs, and executives are all of the same "brotherhood". The system isn't broken, but controlled.
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What is the government doing about this?
This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?
Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?
What kind of clown world system are we in?
I'm surprised that you would ask such a question. Have you not read anything posted here about the NWO?
In brief: The world system we have had, since at least WWI, is a system where gradually less and less people control the world and all of its resources. The goal is a world where a handful of men run everything and the population is reduced to 1 billion. The lifeblood of the system is the Federal Reserve Note, which they can just print, and with it they have bought the whole world. It is not about democracy, capitalism, communism, socialism, those are just tools of the NWO. You can start by reading the book None Dare Call It a Conspiracy, I even started a thread on the book here:
https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/none-dare-call-it-a-conspiracy/msg695622/#msg695622 (https://www.cathinfo.com/politics-and-world-leaders/none-dare-call-it-a-conspiracy/msg695622/#msg695622)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2BVzCXbcVL._SX317_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
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https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2020/01/22/798515259/ready-for-meat-grown-from-animal-cells-a-startup-plans-a-pilot-plant?t=1588112626721 (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2020/01/22/798515259/ready-for-meat-grown-from-animal-cells-a-startup-plans-a-pilot-plant?t=1588112626721)
Is this why Tyson closed? Looks like they are ready to prodcue a diferent type of food. With the help of Bill Gates!
Memphis Meats, a Berkeley, Calif.-based startup, says it's one step closer to bringing cell-based meat to consumers' mouths.
The company plans to build a pilot production facility with funds raised from high-profile investors including Bill Gates, Richard Branson and Kimbal Musk, as well as two giant players in the animal protein and feed space, Cargill and Tyson Foods. The company says its latest funding round has brought in $161 million in new investment.
"People thought this was all science fiction" when the company was founded back in 2015, Uma Valeti, the co-founder and CEO of Memphis Meats, told NPR in an interview at the company's headquarters. "Everything that we've done at Memphis Meats [has] started to show that this can be done," Valeti said. "This is real."
Interest in cell-based meat production and other meat alternatives has increased amid growing awareness of the environmental impact of traditional livestock agriculture.
Valeti and his team walked us through the process of producing cell-based meat. It starts with the selection of specific types of animal cells that can grow to become meat. Next, the cells are fed and put in a "cultivator" — similar to a fermenting tank — where they can grow and form muscle and connective tissue. The process is analogous to the way breweries grow yeast cells to produce beer. Only here, they're growing animal cells.
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/01/22/memphis-meats-1-7d51af0ba4f0d1fc762779bc8d1a4cd1e4625fbc-s1600-c85.jpg)
Memphis Meats CEO Uma Valeti (right) stands with Morgan Rease, the company's formulations scientist, while they cook up a sample of cell-based chicken.
Allison Aubrey/NPR
I got the chance to sample Memphis Meats' chicken, which was pan-sautéed with some oil and served with greens. It tasted pretty close to chicken breast produced the traditional way — but without as much textural variation among bits of muscle, fat and connective tissue. The pilot production facility, which is expected to be built in the next 18 to 24 months, will allow the company to scale up and experiment with its meat products, which also include duck and beef.
But Memphis Meats and its competitors face quite a few hurdles in bringing cell-based meats to market. For starters, the cost of production needs to come down. Back in 2018, Wired reported that a pound of Memphis Meats takes $2,400 to produce (https://www.wired.com/story/the-high-cost-of-lab-to-table-meat/), in part because of the expensive growth mediums — or feed — needed to culture cells.
"Our costs have continued to come down significantly over the last three years," Valeti told us in an email Wednesday. "We have a clear path to bringing a cost competitive product to market as we scale our production and that's part of what our latest funding round will help us to unlock," Valeti said. He said the company will continue to work on developing low-cost feed for the cells, which is one significant piece of the puzzle.
Decisions over how best to label, regulate and inspect cell-based meats are another challenge. In late 2018, the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced that the two agencies would share regulatory oversight (https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/statement-usda-secretary-perdue-and-fda-commissioner-gottlieb-regulation-cell-cultured-food-products), but there are still many issues to resolve.
"The agencies have outlined a path to market, Valeti said, "and we will continue providing them with the information they need to fill in the details."
(https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/08/02/img_0422_sq-d87a05f6c129584cb2daf7a434c38678a000a7b0-s600-c85.jpg) (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/02/747026144/dairy-ice-cream-no-cow-needed-these-egg-and-milk-proteins-are-made-without-anima)
THE SALT (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/)
Dairy Ice Cream, No Cow Needed: These Egg And Milk Proteins Are Made Without Animals (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/08/02/747026144/dairy-ice-cream-no-cow-needed-these-egg-and-milk-proteins-are-made-without-anima)
Memphis Meats has plenty of competitors in the space, and some of them are seeking regulatory approval outside the United States (https://www.gfi.org/non-cms-pages/splash-sites/soi-reports/files/SOI-Report-Cell-Based.pdf). As of last year, there were 27 cell-based meat and seafood companies around the world (https://www.gfi.org/non-cms-pages/splash-sites/soi-reports/files/SOI-Report-Cell-Based.pdf), according to the Good Food Institute. These include Just Foods, which is developing wagyu beef using cells (https://www.ju.st/en-us/stories/meat)from prized cows. In addition, several companies are aiming to produce cell-based fish products (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/05/05/720041152/seafood-without-the-sea-will-lab-grown-fish-hook-consumers).
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https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/04/28/bill-gates-is-partnered-with-al-gore-and-jack-ma-on-a-fake-meat-company-to-replace-the-cattle-pork-and-poultry-industries-hence-the-engineered-collapse-of-all-slaughter-plants-and-the-meat-industry/ (https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/04/28/bill-gates-is-partnered-with-al-gore-and-jack-ma-on-a-fake-meat-company-to-replace-the-cattle-pork-and-poultry-industries-hence-the-engineered-collapse-of-all-slaughter-plants-and-the-meat-industry/)
[From Ann The last article she mentions is the one I have posted above.]
Bill Gates is partnered with Al Gore and Jack Ma on a fake meat company to replace the cattle, pork and poultry industries, hence the engineered collapse of all slaughter plants and the meat industry in North America
Just when you think this evil SOB Gates has maxed-out his card with the Bank of Hell, there’s more. It is clear that Gates has been pre-positioning himself to benefit and control damn-near every aspect of life for years in anticipation of this totally fake “plandemic”.
The company is called NATURE’S FYND. (https://www.naturesfynd.com/)
Glowing article from last month in Forbes (https://www.forbes.com/sites/douglasyu/2020/03/24/natures-fynd-produces-microbes-based-protein-for-food-and-beverage-in-new-chicago-facility-after-raising-80-million/#56dbd27b3e41) detailing Nature’s Fynd submitting data for approval to enter the CHINESE market.
And here is ANOTHER fake meat company (https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2020/01/22/798515259/ready-for-meat-grown-from-animal-cells-a-startup-plans-a-pilot-plant?t=1588112626721) Gates is in on with Richard Branson and Elon Musk’s brother.
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What is the government doing about this?
This seems like a huge Capitalism fail to me. What is broken with the system?
Did you read that key part? They are destroying livestock and prices are collapsing for slaughter animals, even as grocery store prices are rising! Does that make a lick of sense to anyone here?
What kind of clown world system are we in?
It's hard to refute the Communists when crap like this is going on in Capitalist USA. I thought "The Profit Motive" made industry most efficient, made it work well, etc.?
If I weren't a hard-core anti-Communist for religious reasons, I would sure be tempted to think that a State takeover of all farms, processing plants, warehouses, storage facilities, and grocery stores would be for the betterment of mankind. Think of all the starving people in America and elsewhere, as these farmers literally plough recently "euthanized" pigs into the ground -- right next to the hundreds of gallons of milk they just dumped!
Maybe the problem is everyone is so lazy, they are only fit for (and ripe for) a Communist government, which is what we're going to get. In the 1950's you'd have guys buying up these hogs, starting businesses, slaughtering and selling them, etc.
Today, the young people who SHOULD have the most energy, drive, and motivation are millennials and zoomers sitting at home in front of various screens, complaining there are no good jobs. We're screwed.
This is precisely where a universal draft, all men --- and women --- of a certain age (women want "equality", let's give 'em "equality"!) would come in handy. A crash course in Meatpacking 101, then off to the processing plants. And some could end up learning a useful trade. Ditto for farming in general.