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Offline Yeti

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Re: ‘Sister Lucy’ Was Not the Real Fatima Seer
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2024, 04:12:46 PM »
Quote from: Miseremini on April 13, 2024, 11:35:21 PM
I've always wondered about the entry of her death in her orders records (#265) inserted amongst the deaths for 2005.  The name and the birthdate are correct. Was someone trying to reveal the truth?
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Yes, this strange event was discussed on this site a few years back here and here. The photo of the entry of Sr. Lucy in the convent records and being listed as having died in 1949 does seem to me to be real, but I'm not sure what to make of it. The controversy surrounding it is pretty complicated.
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Offline Yeti

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Re: ‘Sister Lucy’ Was Not the Real Fatima Seer
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2024, 04:31:50 PM »
A lot of the objections to the imposter idea state that "No one would want to live the life of a Carmelite nun for their entire lives just to work out a deception." This presumes the people behind the hoax hired some sort of spy or professional actress or con artist to be the fake sister Lucy.

I really don't think that's the case at all. I think they got some Carmelite nun, who had already become comfortable in that life and had decided to spend her life in such a manner, and asked her to be the faker, offering her some small rewards that would mean a lot to someone living in a convent, such as maybe better food, or freedom to do what she wanted, or simply exemption from duties she didn't like.

But I definitely don't think they hired someone from the world to be the imposter; I agree that seems implausible.
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Re: ‘Sister Lucy’ Was Not the Real Fatima Seer
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2024, 06:33:37 PM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on April 14, 2024, 10:24:01 AM
I don’t believe she died naturally but was likely murdered.  I also believe she was still alive in 1957.
Yes- the Fr Fuentes interview was in line with the real Sr Lucy
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Offline Yeti

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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2024, 02:19:38 PM »
One theory about this entry is that it was a sort of mistake, that her day of death was listed as the day of her profession, or maybe the day of her profession into the order keeping this necrology. At first I thought that was absurd, but if you look in the left column, towards the top, #232 is listed as having died in 1962, so there does seem to be some practice of recording the dead nun by a different year from her actual death. Sr. Lucy doesn't seem to be the only one with an anomalous year given for her death.

On the whole I don't think it's that convincing, but it sure is a tantalizing piece of evidence.
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Offline Seraphina

Re: ‘Sister Lucy’ Was Not the Real Fatima Seer
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2024, 09:53:11 AM »
Exactly when she died, I do not know, but the Sr. Lucy who claimed the consecration was done was NOT the same person.  Even accounting for aging, new dentures, etc, the entire bone structure, shape, and size of a person’s head and face doesn’t change!  
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