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Offline Ladislaus

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SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« on: May 04, 2022, 06:51:04 AM »
I threw this out there early on, but the more I think about it, the more I realize that the proposed SCOTUS ruling (as appears in the leaked Alito draft) would be an unmitigated disaster for Pro Life.

With this ruling, which the Pro Life movement has emotionally lapped up as a great victory, unless it were reversed, there could never be federal law to prevent abortion.  By declaring that this issue belongs at the state level, the federal government can never interfere with the states' ability to LEGALIZE abortion.  We're already seeing a reaction among the Leftist states to make abortion more available ... from free abortion to setting up abortion "tourism," clinics on the border with adjacent states, proposed legislation to alllow abortion to be performed for residents of other states, etc.  I could see some of the states going hog wild so that, where abortion may have been illegal in the third trimester, or second, they're going to react in the other direction, taking advantage of their new SCOTUS-declared "rights" to legalize partial birth abortion and even infanticide.

This ruling is an unmitigated disaster and the naive Pro Lifers have rejoiced too soon.

And the Left (aka the Jews) have the apparatus to go state by state to legalize abortion even more than it has been.

PS ... I believe that there's a reason that God allowed most of the Leftists to live on the coasts of the country, California, Oregon, Washingon on the West Coast, New York and Massachussetts and New England in general on the East.  I fully believe that God will swallow that evil into the Ocean when the chastisement comes.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2022, 06:52:40 AM »
What was actually needed was for SCOTUS to declare abortion unconstitutional, as it violates the very FIRST inalienable God-given right declare by the Constitution, the right to life.  [No, to the poster who claimed this, this is not "legislation from the bench" but interpretation of the Constitution.  It's not legislation from the bench to say that states cannot pass laws to permit murder.]
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Offline Mr G

Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2022, 07:22:01 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on May 04, 2022, 06:51:04 AM

PS ... I believe that there's a reason that God allowed most of the Leftists to live on the coasts of the country, California, Oregon, Washingon on the West Coast, New York and Massachussetts and New England in general on the East.  I fully believe that God will swallow that evil into the Ocean when the chastisement comes.
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2022, 07:34:14 AM »
I disagree. It isn't meant to eliminate abortion entirely, but what it does do is remove the proximate occasion of sin from taxpayers whose Federal taxes are supporting this evil practice (something you yourself considered not paying in another thread). If it is limited to the individual states, then the evil is contained (i.e. merely tolerated) in those Marxist "sanctuary states" while the rest of the nation bans and penalizes it outright. It even forces those die-hard Marxists to move out of "red states" to those Communist holes like California and Oregon.

Furthermore, didn't we also have a recent tangent about the State outright banning things versus restricting them? Citing St. Thomas's toleration of brothels to vastly restrict the sɛҳuąƖ sins of Society as a whole? There's also the spiritual angle to this, as it allows the nation to become more aligned with God than Satan (no matter how incrementally), which is something I read from Savonarola recently talking about the ideal State.


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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: SCOTUS ruling would be a disaster for Pro Life
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2022, 07:39:32 AM »
This is not about restricting or banning anything.  It's about the false legal principle that the states have a right to determine whether abortion is legal or not.

States were already in the process of restricting abortion.  What this ruling does is to take it completely off the table that there could be a federal law banning abortion across the united states.  Unwittingly, it's a protection for states that want to make abortion illegal.
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