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Offline Meg

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Re: poche ... please explain
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2019, 01:30:48 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bonaventure on December 30, 2019, 01:28:48 PM
    And once again a thread has been derailed by Meg and her arbitrary/capricious insistence that she's the implied moderator of the forum.

    Matthew said that we are to report Poche's posts if they are a problem. Are you not aware of that? Or would that be a boring way to deal with the problem? Far less drama, right? 
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #76 on: December 30, 2019, 01:33:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bellator Dei on December 30, 2019, 01:32:24 PM
    Meg, what do you hope to accomplish by antagonizing Mark?

    Are you a sedevacantist? If so, then that would be a reason for your comment above.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #77 on: December 30, 2019, 01:35:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 30, 2019, 11:56:22 AM
    Positions aren't necessarily the same as intentions, though they may be related. What are your intentions here? Is there a reason why you don't want to answer the question?

    Obviously, Meg, I'm not talking about the deeper-level motivations (e.g. to persuade people of my position, to exchange ideas, whether I am posting out of pride / needing to be right, etc.) but am trying to get at "poche, are you actually serious about these issues or just trolling or intending to disrupt"?  I didn't think I would need to spell it out for you, but you're so obsessed with contempt for sedevacantism that you ended up distorting even this simple quesiton.
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #78 on: December 30, 2019, 01:36:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:33:24 PM
    Are you a sedevacantist?

    This sedevacantist thing really has caused mental disturbances for you.
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #79 on: December 30, 2019, 01:37:47 PM »
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    • It is evident to me that Sedevacantists have taken over the forum, and they rule here, with the blessing of the forum owner. It's unfortunate, because the Resistance cannot really tolerate being attacked continually by the sedes and especially the sedeprivationists (who are worse than the sedes).

    Mark 79 is obviously a narcissist. It's not really about Poche. It's about Mark, and his need for attention and adulation. He has that, in great numbers here.
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

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    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #80 on: December 30, 2019, 01:39:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:30:48 PM
    Matthew said that we are to report Poche's posts if they are a problem. Are you not aware of that?

    Of course I'm aware of that.  I'm an adult; I can read. Speaking of which, what part of Reported from Mark 79's post do you not understand?   Or, like a little child, do you need to be taken by the hand and have everything explicitly explained to you?

    BTW, did you report Poche's post to Matthew?  If not, then would I be correct in assuming that you implicitly agree with Poche's blasphemies, especially in view of your insistence vis-a-vis Mark 79?
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #81 on: December 30, 2019, 01:53:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:37:47 PM
    It is evident to me that Sedevacantsits have taken over the forum, and they rule here, with the blessing of the forum owner. It's unfortunate, because the Resistance cannot really tolerate being attacked continually by the sedes and sedeprivationists.

    Mark 79 is obviously a narcissist. It's not really about Poche. It's about Mark, and his need for attention and adulation. He has that, in great numbers here.
    It is really about Poche.

    Poche has posted vast quantities of posts, many of which have disturbing characteristics.  Many members recognize a problem and are concerned about his content, motivation and identity.  Mark is especially concerned with the judaizing trend in many of Poche's posts.  Any traditional Catholic who understands the importance of this issue can recognize what a serious problem this is.  Mark is writing about it because it needs to be written about.  Mark is especially qualified to comment on this aspect of the issue because of his extensive research and knowledge.

    There is no good reason to make this about Mark or fabricate unworthy motives for his actions.  Nor was there any reason to use this thread to make personal attacks on Ladislaus.  Nor is there a good reason to derail yet another thread for your obsession with attacking sedevacantists.  

    The issue under discussion is Poche who regularly attacks beliefs common to all traditional Catholics.  This is not a matter in which people's position on the Crisis is even relevant.  There is something wrong with you, Meg, in that you seem unable to do anything other than make personal attacks on people.
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #82 on: December 30, 2019, 03:11:57 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:37:47 PM
    It is evident to me that Sedevacantists have taken over the forum, and they rule here, with the blessing of the forum owner. It's unfortunate, because the Resistance cannot really tolerate being attacked continually by the sedes and especially the sedeprivationists (who are worse than the sedes).

    Mark 79 is obviously a narcissist. It's not really about Poche. It's about Mark, and his need for attention and adulation. He has that, in great numbers here.
    Meg, clear and evident falsehoods like what Poche is doing cannot (emphasis on not) be ignored. If you're ignoring them, then it's safe to assume that you either don't care or you're an idiot.

    Making the forum aware about clear and evident falsehoods is not "narcissism". Coming on every thread to complain about Mark and making it about you, however, IS. Have a nice day!
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #83 on: December 30, 2019, 03:51:09 PM »
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    • Mark is a sedevacantist, Poche is not.  Duh.
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #84 on: December 30, 2019, 04:22:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:20:29 PM
    Did you report the post to Matthew? Yes or no. I understand that you have to show a bit of drama for your adoring fans here, who expect and have anxious hope for it, but maybe you can just simply answer the question. Is it really that difficult?
    Defending our blessed Mother from blasphemy is "a bit of drama"?
    Meg, pull your head in. Weird, really weird!
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #85 on: December 30, 2019, 08:24:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:37:47 PM
    It is evident to me that Sedevacantists have taken over the forum, and they rule here, with the blessing of the forum owner.…

    Actually, in our recent frank exchange of views behind the scenes, Matthew was quite disparaging of the sedevacantist position; he gave no "blessing" at all.

    Quote from: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:37:47 PM
    Mark 79 is obviously a narcissist. It's not really about Poche. It's about Mark, and his need for attention and adulation. He has that, in great numbers here.

    Keep your eye on the ball.

    Ignoring Matthew's explicit condemnations and warnings, Poche not only continued his mischaraterization of Pope St. Pius X's position on тαℓмυdic Judaism, but also suggested that the star of the demon Rempham, the explicit topic of the thread, prefigured Our Blessed Mother.

    You might consider defending Our Lady.

    It really is impressive how you can be wrong such a high percentage of the time. You can't parse a word like "reported," but think you can read my heart, mind, and soul. Impressive. Can you bilocate too?
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #86 on: December 30, 2019, 08:28:15 PM »
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    • Poche is a lightweight Judaizer. That's why I've never paid him the compliment of giving him much attention. I pay attention too those who give him attention. Poche used to mimic icecream, an FE member, when he first joined FE. Babytalk style to ingratiate himself. He's morphed into a more adult type.

    Heavyweight Judaizers, such as JayneK, Ggreg, VoxClamantis, Mithrandylan, TMW89, Ubipetrus (GriffRuby), 2Vermont, Hobbledehoy have bothered me more, as they have been respected by an alarming number of people who should know better.

    Even MaterDominici and Matthew were charmed by Ggreg. Even Telesphorus, my all-time favorite member of the Catholic fora, aligned himself, briefly, with the lunatic Judaized feminist DawnMarie on ABLF to attack me. DawnMarie even had a private audience with Bishop Richard Williamson, and Bishop Williamson was fooled by her. Bishop Williamson once invited a rabbi to speak to seminarians in Winona. He's also a fan of the very suspect Maria Valtorta.

    People who harp on Poche strike me as a bit naive when it comes to Judaizers. Poche is a total lightweight. Any Catholic with a crumb of Catholicus Sensus could spot him right away. Matthew and MaterDominci undoubtedly know that Poche is a fraud.

    Jews and the h0Ɩ0h0αx is the ultimate litmus test. And it's a litmus test that "traditional Catholics" are as likely to fail as conciliarists. Too many HarlequinKing fαɢɢօts in traditional Catholic ranks. That type Fr. Feeney described as:

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    The Liturgy Loon. Armed with an unabridged missal and a course in Gregorian chant, this migratory species travels from parish to parish in search of a properly said Mass.

    When he enters a church, his purpose is not to make a visit, but to go on a tour of inspection. And by a few liturgical scowls at the surplus statuary, he can dismiss the devotion of generations of simple Catholics. For the Liturgy Loon’s concern is not prayer, but performance; not dogma, but rubrics; not the Presence of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, but the absence of lace on the altar boy’s surplice.

    The only reason I've been able to ascertain as to why Matthew tolerates Poche's presence is because Poche provides an uptick in activity and, perhaps, an avenue on which Catholics can hone their apologetic skills.
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #87 on: December 30, 2019, 08:34:01 PM »
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    • "Any Catholic with a crumb of Catholicus Sensus could spot him right away."

    Therein lies crux of the Poche problem—the un-catechized and poorly-catechized who cannot "spot him right away."
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #88 on: December 30, 2019, 10:53:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on December 30, 2019, 05:43:05 AM
    Poche,

    If you are a jew-troll as the evidence implies... are you a rabbi?

    Credible trolls, who infiltrate Catholic forums have rabbinical training.  
    They understand the Faith, and are adept at advancing lies and myths against it.

    You fit this bill.
    I am a Catholic.
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    Re: poche ... please explain
    « Reply #89 on: December 30, 2019, 11:01:31 PM »
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    • Unfortunately, Poche, you are a willful, unrepentant, blaspheming, habitual liar who recently perpetrated a demonic attack upon the Mother of God.

    Did you channel the demon Rempham himself to suggest that his star prefigured the Holy Mother of God?
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