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Traditional Catholic Faith => Fighting Errors in the Modern World => Topic started by: Ladislaus on December 27, 2019, 04:16:00 PM

Title: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 27, 2019, 04:16:00 PM
Poche is the #4 all-time poster on CathInfo ... with over 15,000 posts.  Now, I'm #2 on CI, but I've been around a couple more years than poche, and so poche actually averages 5.6 posts per day wile I average 5.3.  poche has been averaging 5.6 posts per day for EIGHT YEARS, whereas I'm 5.2 per day for 10 years.  So poche is one of THE most prolific posters in the history of CathInfo.

So, poche, since you clearly don't see eye-to-eye with any of the other forum members on theological issues, could you please explain why it is that you're so active on the forum?  I don't really care ... just want to gain some insight into your motivation.

#1) Are you a Traditional Catholic in any sense of the word?

#2) Are you a conservative Catholic?

#3) What is your motivation for posting here?  Are you trying to "convert" people to your point of view?  Are you trolling?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 28, 2019, 03:16:31 AM
In the French language forum there used to be an emoticon that was holding a sign saying "Je suis Catho!" and he had a scowl on his face like he was mad at somebody. I would hold up the sign that says "Je suis Catho!" and I would have a big smile on my face. 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on December 28, 2019, 04:08:37 AM
In the French language forum there used to be an emoticon that was holding a sign saying "Je suis Catho!" and he had a scowl on his face like he was mad at somebody. I would hold up the sign that says "Je suis Catho!" and I would have a big smile on my face.
Why don’t you answer the questions? Frankly, it seems you have an agenda.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: 2Vermont on December 28, 2019, 06:07:35 AM
Why don’t you answer the questions? Frankly, it seems you have an agenda.
I think he answered them.  He is saying that Catholics here have scowls on their faces.  He is here to show us that to be Catholic one should have a big smile on one's face.

ETA:  Of course, he can always correct me if I'm wrong.  ;)
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: josefamenendez on December 28, 2019, 06:35:56 AM
I don't think he answered. I'd say he's here specifically to undermine and detract from true traditionalism (In the nicest possible way of course, n'est pas?)

I think there is something not quite right with Poche's presence here, yet he offers no defense or explanation. Just a lot of "cheese sauce" distraction like the prior post. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Kazimierz on December 28, 2019, 06:37:34 AM
I think he answered them.  He is saying that Catholics here have scowls on their faces.  He is here to show us that to be Catholic one should have a big smile on one's face.

ETA:  Of course, he can always correct me if I'm wrong.  ;)
Sounds like a "Going my Way" Bing Crosby Catholicism. or........
"The hills are alive with the sound of musi.........KABLAM. Is she tot? Nein, just winged her. Mein Gott, what an irritating damen she ist.Pass the Schnapps."
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on December 28, 2019, 06:38:05 AM
I think he answered them.  He is saying that Catholics here have scowls on their faces.  He is here to show us that to be Catholic one should have a big smile on one's face.

ETA:  Of course, he can always correct me if I'm wrong.  ;)
😀
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2019, 08:25:13 AM
In the French language forum there used to be an emoticon that was holding a sign saying "Je suis Catho!" and he had a scowl on his face like he was mad at somebody. I would hold up the sign that says "Je suis Catho!" and I would have a big smile on my face.

So ... you're the internet equivalent of a French mime?

(https://st3.depositphotos.com/12985790/18489/i/1600/depositphotos_184896422-stock-photo-smiling-mime-talking-stationary-telephone.jpg)
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2019, 08:27:23 AM
I think there's got to be a deeper motivation to posting 15,000+ times in 10 years than just to wipe scowls off the faces of a small handful of Traditional Catholics.

I feel that if he does not answer the question, he should be written off as a troll ... that we have wasted far too much of our time on.

I don't really care what you are, poche ... from Marxist Liberation Theologian to Pope Rigid I ... but I think you owe people an explanation of what you're doing here.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: SimpleMan on December 28, 2019, 09:37:55 AM
I am not going to try and go inside the mind of someone I don't even know.  However, I would just say this: among "conservative orthodox Novus Ordo Catholics" (or whatever term you want to use to describe them), I have observed the tendency to want to go into various entities --- online forums, parishes, schools, businesses, the media, what have you --- and be a "leaven unto them", to try and effect whatever change they can, from within.  I am not suggesting that this is "trolling", nor even that it is necessarily a bad thing, just a modus operandi --- to try and reform from within, rather than detaching themselves from such entities and creating their own.  Just to use one example, Christendom College --- a bastion of "conservative Novus Ordo-ism" if ever there were such a critter --- is very explicit about encouraging their graduates to be precisely this kind of "leaven".  Again, not saying this is a bad thing, just saying that this is a rule from their playbook.  That may be what is going on here --- not suggesting that our poster is a Christendom College alumnus, just using them as an example.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2019, 09:46:53 AM
Perhaps.  But for poche to have persevered with 15,000+ posts over 8 years, I suspect that there's something deeper there.  So, for instance, Lover of Truth would post tirelessly against Feeneyism, and that was inspired by his "close call" in almost having become a Feeneyite.  So I surmise that poche has had some kind of dealings with Traditional Catholicism.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Last Tradhican on December 28, 2019, 09:57:55 AM
Perhaps.  But for poche to have persevered with 15,000+ posts over 8 years, I suspect that there's something deeper there.  So, for instance, Lover of Truth would post tirelessly against Feeneyism, and that was inspired by his "close call" in almost having become a Feeneyite.  So I surmise that poche has had some kind of dealings with Traditional Catholicism.
"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck" .

"By their deeds you shall know them"
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Bonaventure on December 28, 2019, 10:30:04 AM
So, poche, since you clearly don't see eye-to-eye with any of the other forum members on theological issues, could you please explain why it is that you're so active on the forum?  

...

Perhaps.  But for poche to have persevered with 15,000+ posts over 8 years, I suspect that there's something deeper there.

There really is only one explanation: Narcissism.

And he's enjoying every minute of the havoc he's causing. 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2019, 10:36:18 AM
There really is only one explanation: Narcissism.

And he's enjoying every minute of the havoc he's causing.

I suspect that he is, and that lines up with his being a troll.  Unless he explains himself, I move that he be banned as a troll who's doing nothing but wasting everyone's time.  Rest of us on this forum have better things to do than to argue against the canonization of Bergoglio being promoted by poche.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on December 28, 2019, 10:40:27 AM
I believe Poche is more than one person.   One person has one style of writing.  It seems that reading Poche posts
it looks like they are of different styles.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2019, 10:45:38 AM
I believe Poche is more than one person.   One person has one style of writing.  It seems that reading Poche posts
it looks like they are of different styles.

Interesting theory.  Could poche be a group of people working together to troll the forum?

Or, alternatively, could poche be a few guys from India that Matthew has hired to drive up traffic on the forum?   :laugh1:  ... kindof like Gajewski did.  After all, Matthew does get a $4.3 million annual revenue from this site.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Last Tradhican on December 28, 2019, 11:06:44 AM
After all, Matthew does get a $4.3 million annual revenue from this site.
Say what?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on December 28, 2019, 11:13:45 AM
Interesting theory.  Could poche be a group of people working together to troll the forum?

Or, alternatively, could poche be a few guys from India that Matthew has hired to drive up traffic on the forum?   :laugh1:  ... kindof like Gajewski did.  After all, Matthew does get a $4.3 million annual revenue from this site.
:laugh2:
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: SoldierOfChrist on December 28, 2019, 11:17:22 AM
Poche is like Q, but the opposite.  He’s a group of people, working with Hilary Clinton, to send messages to deep state apologists.  Poche(-) is his signature when the queen herself is behind the comments.  I propose we check the timestamps of his posts against the timestamps of Queen Hilary’s twitter posts.  If we have any zero deltas, then we have confirmation.

Or just ban him.

Seriously though, and I admittedly only check this forum once in a while, but couldn’t he seriously be a bot?  From what I’ve read from his posts, most of them are completely irrelevant AP reposts.  Then when you get into an argument with him, his responses sound like he didn’t even read what you wrote to him.  If someone is controlling a bot on this forum, they could theoretically take control of the bot every once in a while to directly answer a question and prove it’s a real person.  That would account for a change in writing style of the poster.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 28, 2019, 11:29:38 AM
There really is only one explanation: Narcissism.

And he's enjoying every minute of the havoc he's causing.
I think that is part of the problem.

Long before I decided to docuмent Poche's lying, I considered that he might be intellectually impaired (e.g., congenital retardation, autism, Alzheimer's, traumatic brain injury, etc.), but his posts do not support that. His claims of speaking French and Choctaw, suggest that he is capable of parsing and understanding language—so capable that, even in this recent post, his evasions and deceits are quite studied—only that he chooses willfully to pervert the truth.

Narcissicism does not affect intellectual function and Poche's pattern certainly fits that (I have accused him of that in his meal posts), but there is an additional deeper problem—moral impairment.

Why does Poche remain smug instead of chastened by Matthew's studied condemnation? The usual habitual liar is not so depraved as to try enlisting St. Paul and Jesus Christ in his lies.

To infest this place with blasphemous lies requires extraordinary moral impairment, extraordinary depravity, an extraordinary enemy of the Way, the Truth, and the Life, an extraordinary enemy of Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Incredulous on December 28, 2019, 11:35:30 AM
I believe Poche is more than one person.   One person has one style of writing.  It seems that reading Poche posts
it looks like they are of different styles.

I think you’re correct.  

I noticed the same deviation with Michael A. Hoffman’s blog.

His writings, newsletters and posts have different styles and it is too prolific to be coming from one guy.  It took a long time to figure out that he’s a “Ringer”.

The jew are notorious for their cottage ghostwriters & troll industry.  Their revolution is founded on lies, so they must be players in all the media channels.

Mark79’s hunch to trace the origins of Poche’s name to the тαℓмυd nailed a “Ringer”.

Poche is a group of one or more jew-trolls, feigning to be modern Catholics, victimized by traditionalist.

Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Pax Vobis on December 28, 2019, 12:10:47 PM
Poche = Definitely multiple people.  
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2019, 12:10:54 PM
Say what?

Just a joke from another thread.  Some online information system estimated CathInfo's revenue as $4.3 million per year.  Matthew also has a couple dozen employees.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: ByzCat3000 on December 28, 2019, 12:24:45 PM
I don’t mind if he gets banned but I don’t really see why people can’t just ignore him.

As far as the other proposed explanations, I have autism (aspergers) and I don’t really think I sound like him so I feel like it’s gotta be more than just that 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 28, 2019, 12:33:53 PM
I don’t mind if he gets banned but I don’t really see why people can’t just ignore him.

As far as the other proposed explanations, I have autism (aspergers) and I don’t really think I sound like him so I feel like it’s gotta be more than just that
Would you ignore porn at a family gathering?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Bonaventure on December 28, 2019, 12:34:39 PM
... I don’t really see why people can’t just ignore him.

Maybe you missed this from the OP:

Quote
Poche is the #4 all-time poster on CathInfo ... with over 15,000 posts.  ...poche ...averages 5.6 posts per day.

That's a lotta posts to simply 'ignore.'  More important, a decent amount of threads are either bumped up (or bumped down) based upon the 5.6 posts per day.  
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Bonaventure on December 28, 2019, 12:44:19 PM
I believe Poche is more than one person.   One person has one style of writing.  It seems that reading Poche posts
it looks like they are of different styles.

Very interesting. 

I've also noticed that poche seems to post relatively late in the day.  OR.... early morning in, say for example, Tel Aviv.  

Just sayin.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-revealed-israeli-military-monitors-social-media-blogs-and-forums-1.6531061 (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-revealed-israeli-military-monitors-social-media-blogs-and-forums-1.6531061)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jєωιѕн_Internet_Defense_Force (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jєωιѕн_Internet_Defense_Force)
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: 2Vermont on December 28, 2019, 01:06:25 PM
I don’t mind if he gets banned but I don’t really see why people can’t just ignore him.

Says the relatively new poster.  Most of us have ignored poche for years.  We're just done.  
It doesn't help that he never responded to Matthew's recent warning (say with an apology/a willingness to do better).  Rather than a direct, sincere response in this thread, he chose to be coy in his response.  
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Incredulous on December 28, 2019, 01:57:56 PM
Would you ignore porn at a family gathering?


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"Whoa there Mark... porn is freedom of speech"
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: roscoe on December 28, 2019, 02:19:19 PM
Pooch has only been a problem since the new software was installed about a year ago, IOW-- there used to be a Hide/ Ignore function where one could make him vanish.... :incense:
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 28, 2019, 03:24:15 PM
Pooch has only been a problem since the new software was installed about a year ago, IOW-- there used to be a Hide/ Ignore function where one could make him vanish.... :incense:

As Matthew has correctly opined, פּוֹקֶר is not a threat to the faith of regulars who would Hide/Ignore him in an instant.

Unfortunately Hide/Ignore does nothing to protect innocents and newbies from פּוֹקֶר.

Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2019, 04:34:24 PM
If he refuses to explain himself and what his intentions are here, then I think he needs to be banned.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: ByzCat3000 on December 28, 2019, 05:39:36 PM
Says the relatively new poster.  Most of us have ignored poche for years.  We're just done.  
It doesn't help that he never responded to Matthew's recent warning (say with an apology/a willingness to do better).  Rather than a direct, sincere response in this thread, he chose to be coy in his response.  
Fair enough 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: ByzCat3000 on December 28, 2019, 05:41:20 PM
Would you ignore porn at a family gathering?
No, and if he was posting porn I would certainly say he should be banned.
Mind maybe he should be.  And I agree that freedom of speech isn’t absolute in Catholicism.
But I do think porn is more of a threat than just kind of lame argumentation 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 28, 2019, 05:43:30 PM
No, and if he was posting porn I would certainly say he should be banned.
Mind maybe he should be.  And I agree that freedom of speech isn’t absolute in Catholicism.
But I do think porn is more of a threat than just kind of lame argumentation
As if willful blasphemy and lying to subvert the Faith is "lame argumentation"?  Did you read Matthew's condemnation?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 28, 2019, 06:31:25 PM
And I agree that freedom of speech isn’t absolute in Catholicism.

Well, I'm not advocating that he be banned simply because of the position he holds.  If poche refuses to answer a simple question of why he's here and what his motivations are, then we might conclude that he's nothing more than a trouble-maker and a troll.  And if that's the case, and he's not being sincere, then he needs to be shown the door and prevented from further disrupting the forum, or whatever other nefarious intentions he may have.  If he won't answer these simple questions about his position and his motivation for posting (since his position clashes with almost every single member of CathInfo), then we can safely conclude that he is not sincere.  For all we know, this is some immature prank where he has a wager with his friends regarding how long he can continue on here without being banned while yanking everyone's chains.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 28, 2019, 10:45:43 PM
I think he answered them.  He is saying that Catholics here have scowls on their faces.  He is here to show us that to be Catholic one should have a big smile on one's face.

ETA:  Of course, he can always correct me if I'm wrong.  ;)
You are right. I am happy to be Catholic. Notice the coboy emoticon is smiling.
:cowboy: :cowboy: :cowboy:
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Pax Vobis on December 28, 2019, 11:08:31 PM
Another non-answer from Poche.  He’s a very evasive skunk.  He pretends to be pious to avoid direct answers.  Yet, on the other thread, he posts a complex quote regarding the New Law.  
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 28, 2019, 11:09:55 PM
Perhaps.  But for poche to have persevered with 15,000+ posts over 8 years, I suspect that there's something deeper there.  So, for instance, Lover of Truth would post tirelessly against Feeneyism, and that was inspired by his "close call" in almost having become a Feeneyite.  So I surmise that poche has had some kind of dealings with Traditional Catholicism.
I can remember a time when there was no talk of the TLM. That was because there was no Novus Ordo.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 28, 2019, 11:29:02 PM
I think you’re correct.  

I noticed the same deviation with Michael A. Hoffman’s blog.

His writings, newsletters and posts have different styles and it is too prolific to be coming from one guy.  It took a long time to figure out that he’s a “Ringer”.

The jew are notorious for their cottage ghostwriters & troll industry.  Their revolution is founded on lies, so they must be players in all the media channels.

Mark79’s hunch to trace the origins of Poche’s name to the тαℓмυd nailed a “Ringer”.

Poche is a group of one or more jew-trolls, feigning to be modern Catholics, victimized by traditionalist.
This is the origin of the name I chose for myself;
Capt. Felix Pierre Poché must have been one of those Army rarities who could almost invariably separate a few real facts from a multitude of rumors when almost all communication was by word of mouth.
The young Confederate Army officer, 27 at the time of the 1864 cινιℓ ωαr campaigns in Louisiana, did not believe in slavery, though his family owned some slaves, did not approve of secession, but became fiercely patriotic to the Confederacy; at first would not join the Confederate Army, but later won citations for bravery in battle; was instilled with the love of the Napoleonic-type of massed infantry, cavalry and artillery tactics, but was deeply moved by the suffering of both friendly and enemy soldiers who fell on the battlefield.
He was also devoutly religious, and devoted to his young wife and his 2-year old daughter. He was one of those fourth generation South Louisiana French-Acadian aristocrats-son, grandson and great-grandson of planters-whose loyalty to his relatives friends and neighbors knew no bounds.
Capt. Poché was truly an officer and a gentleman. But to those who would remember him 100 years later, the most important characteristic of this young Confederate Army officer who would someday become an associate justice of the Louisiana Supreme Court was his obsession for keeping a diary.

http://pochefamily.org/diaryfelixppoche.htm

Please note, he went to mass almost every Sunday. He never even heard about the Novus Ordo.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 28, 2019, 11:37:02 PM
Would you ignore porn at a family gathering?
When we have family gatherings at my home we don't watch that nonsense.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 28, 2019, 11:38:28 PM

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"Whoa there Mark... porn is freedom of speech"
There is no such thing as 'freedom of speech' at my house. 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: CatholicInAmerica on December 29, 2019, 12:41:23 AM
When we have family gatherings at my home we don't watch that nonsense.
This proves to me poche is on the spectrum. This guy posts what he has for dinner every single day..... Every Single Day. No one who isn’t on the spectrum would reply to the comment by saying “we don’t watch this”. It was an analogy, why would you reply to it as you would an accusation?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 29, 2019, 12:44:21 AM
This proves to me poche is on the spectrum. This guy posts what he has for dinner every single day..... Every Single Day. No one who isn’t on the spectrum would reply to the comment by saying “we don’t watch this”. It was an analogy, why would you reply to it as you would an accusation?
What does it men to be on the spectrum?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: CatholicInAmerica on December 29, 2019, 12:49:42 AM
What does it men to be on the spectrum?
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Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 29, 2019, 02:14:39 AM
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On what do you base this assessment of me?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 29, 2019, 02:54:46 AM
You have been publicly docuмented as a willful, habitual liar and blasphemer.

You have not publicly repented your lies and blasphemy.

You have not made public reparation for your lies and blasphemy.

Poche, Nobody here owes you any answers.

Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 29, 2019, 03:16:31 AM
You have been publicly docuмented as a willful, habitual liar and blasphemer.

You have not publicly repented your lies and blasphemy.

You have not made public reparation for your lies and blasphemy.

Poche, Nobody here owes you any answers.
I went to confession this morning and the priest gave me absolution.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 29, 2019, 04:57:19 AM
I went to confession this morning and the priest gave me absolution.

Then let us all keep a clean slate.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: josefamenendez on December 29, 2019, 06:59:08 AM
I see a lot feigned innocence that is atypical of an autist. Poche is insideously clever in his replies. The depth of certain posts (especially in foreign languages) belies the his childlike responses here. He tends never to answer a question and always misdirects. Hmmmmm... very good bot or serious troll
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: 2Vermont on December 29, 2019, 09:01:43 AM
Then let us all keep a clean slate.
Mark79, I give you credit for trying to let it go because poche said he went to confession "this morning" (btw that post at 3AM leads me to believe that he lives in another time zone as well).  But how do you know that he mentioned anything that has happened here in that confession?  

Even if he did, then he should have made it clear here that he was sorry in some way.  Public sins deserve a public confession especially when there was a thread warning him publicly.  

I personally think he just played you.  He's playing all of us.  To him, this is clearly a game.

I vote troll and should be banned at this point.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Bonaventure on December 29, 2019, 09:08:26 AM
But how do you know that he mentioned anything that has happened here in that confession?  ... Public sins deserve a public confession....

^--- Exactly.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: ByzCat3000 on December 29, 2019, 10:28:35 AM
This proves to me poche is on the spectrum. This guy posts what he has for dinner every single day..... Every Single Day. No one who isn’t on the spectrum would reply to the comment by saying “we don’t watch this”. It was an analogy, why would you reply to it as you would an accusation?
I have aspergers and even I knew what was intended with the porn comment 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on December 29, 2019, 01:34:56 PM
I’m starting to think that Poche maybe a NO priest. Has anyone else suggested that?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Nadir on December 29, 2019, 02:12:34 PM
I’m starting to think that Poche maybe a NO priest. Has anyone else suggested that?
One or two or three or four times!
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 29, 2019, 02:13:57 PM
I’m starting to think that Poche maybe a NO priest. Has anyone else suggested that?
He denied it… but then his word means nothing… but that is how it is for liars… never to be believed again.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on December 29, 2019, 02:25:49 PM
One or two or three or four times!
😂
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on December 29, 2019, 02:29:06 PM
He denied it… but then his word means nothing… but that is how it is for liars… never to be believed again.
True. I never read his posts much even under my past screen name. I mostly just ignored him.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 29, 2019, 05:52:24 PM
Since he won't explain what his intentions are here, I think that poche needs to be banned.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Meg on December 29, 2019, 07:01:20 PM
Since he won't explain what his intentions are here, I think that poche needs to be banned.

It would be a good thing if Poche could explain his intentions. But, in the meantime, can you explain what your intentions are here?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Incredulous on December 29, 2019, 07:30:42 PM
It would be a good thing if Poche could explain his intentions. But, in the meantime, can you explain what your intentions are here?

Meg,

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Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 29, 2019, 10:38:01 PM
He denied it… but then his word means nothing… but that is how it is for liars… never to be believed again.
I denied that I am a priest because it is true that I am not a priest. If I had said 'yes I am an ordained priest.' Novus Ordo or not then that would be a lie.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 29, 2019, 11:17:16 PM
I denied that I am a priest because it is true that I am not a priest. If I had said 'yes I am an ordained priest.' Novus Ordo or not then that would be a lie.

Do you habitually lie because you are mentally impaired, morally impaired, or both?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Incredulous on December 30, 2019, 05:43:05 AM
I denied that I am a priest because it is true that I am not a priest. If I had said 'yes I am an ordained priest.' Novus Ordo or not then that would be a lie.

Poche,

If you are a jew-troll as the evidence implies... are you a rabbi?

Credible trolls, who infiltrate Catholic forums have rabbinical training. 
They understand the Faith, and are adept at advancing lies and myths against it.

You fit this bill.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 30, 2019, 09:52:12 AM
It would be a good thing if Poche could explain his intentions. But, in the meantime, can you explain what your intentions are here?

Another childish response so typical of you.  Not only have I completely explained my positions, but I have even given my real name.  We have no indication of whether poche is even a Catholic, or is a single person or many, then, if he is a Catholic, whether he's a Traditional Catholic.  Does he have some real reason for posting or is he merely trolling the forum?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Meg on December 30, 2019, 11:56:22 AM
Another childish response so typical of you.  Not only have I completely explained my positions, but I have even given my real name.  We have no indication of whether poche is even a Catholic, or is a single person or many, then, if he is a Catholic, whether he's a Traditional Catholic.  Does he have some real reason for posting or is he merely trolling the forum?

Positions aren't necessarily the same as intentions, though they may be related. What are your intentions here? Is there a reason why you don't want to answer the question?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 30, 2019, 12:18:47 PM
Positions aren't necessarily the same as intentions, though they may be related. What are your intentions here? Is there a reason why you don't want to answer the question?
Hey Meg, why are you constantly running interference for Poche, the guy who just blasphemed Our Blessed Mother?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Meg on December 30, 2019, 12:34:13 PM
Hey Meg, why are you constantly running interference for Poche, the guy who just blasphemed Our Blessed Mother?

You seem to be getting closer to becoming, again, obsessed with Poche. It's a little weird.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Jaynek on December 30, 2019, 12:37:18 PM
You seem to be getting closer to becoming, again, obsessed with Poche. It's a little weird.
People who expect to talk about Poche in a thread about Poche rather than see you, yet again, enact your personal vendettas, are not obsessed.  They merely want logical, orderly forum conduct.  There is nothing weird about this at all.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 30, 2019, 12:51:47 PM
You seem to be getting closer to becoming, again, obsessed with Poche. It's a little weird.

You are a seriously disordered person.

After being condemned and warned by Matthew, Poche just blasphemed Our Blessed Mother and repeated his Judaizing, once again mischaracterized Pope St. Pius X… and you run interference for Poche.

Seriously disordered.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: JezusDeKoning on December 30, 2019, 12:54:10 PM
Poche, I wish you a very happy new year full of God's blessings and may it be as far from this forum as possible. Please.

Mark is entirely in the right about you.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:00:26 PM
You are a seriously disordered person.

After being condemned and warned by Matthew, Poche just blasphemed Our Blessed Mother and repeated his Judaizing, once again mischaracterized Pope St. Pius X… and you run interference for Poche.

Seriously disordered.

Well then, I hope that you reported Poche's post to Matthew, as Matthew has asked you to do. Did you report it? I hope you did. Or do you prefer the limelight and attention from your adoring fans? 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 30, 2019, 01:17:59 PM
What part of "reported" don't you understand?

https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/st-stephen-exposed-the-jew's-occult-star/msg681318/#msg681318
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:20:29 PM
What part of "reported" don't you understand?

https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/st-stephen-exposed-the-jew's-occult-star/msg681318/#msg681318

Did you report the post to Matthew? Yes or no. I understand that you have to show a bit of drama for your adoring fans here, who expect and have anxious hope for it, but maybe you can just simply answer the question. Is it really that difficult?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Bonaventure on December 30, 2019, 01:28:48 PM
Did you report the post to Matthew? Yes or no. I understand that you have to show a bit of drama for your adoring fans here, who expect and have anxious hope for it, but maybe you can just simply answer the question. Is it really that difficult?

And once again a thread has been derailed by Meg and her arbitrary/capricious insistence that she's the implied moderator of the forum.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:30:48 PM
And once again a thread has been derailed by Meg and her arbitrary/capricious insistence that she's the implied moderator of the forum.

Matthew said that we are to report Poche's posts if they are a problem. Are you not aware of that? Or would that be a boring way to deal with the problem? Far less drama, right? 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:33:24 PM
Meg, what do you hope to accomplish by antagonizing Mark?

Are you a sedevacantist? If so, then that would be a reason for your comment above.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 30, 2019, 01:35:21 PM
Positions aren't necessarily the same as intentions, though they may be related. What are your intentions here? Is there a reason why you don't want to answer the question?

Obviously, Meg, I'm not talking about the deeper-level motivations (e.g. to persuade people of my position, to exchange ideas, whether I am posting out of pride / needing to be right, etc.) but am trying to get at "poche, are you actually serious about these issues or just trolling or intending to disrupt"?  I didn't think I would need to spell it out for you, but you're so obsessed with contempt for sedevacantism that you ended up distorting even this simple quesiton.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Ladislaus on December 30, 2019, 01:36:05 PM
Are you a sedevacantist?

This sedevacantist thing really has caused mental disturbances for you.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Meg on December 30, 2019, 01:37:47 PM
It is evident to me that Sedevacantists have taken over the forum, and they rule here, with the blessing of the forum owner. It's unfortunate, because the Resistance cannot really tolerate being attacked continually by the sedes and especially the sedeprivationists (who are worse than the sedes).

Mark 79 is obviously a narcissist. It's not really about Poche. It's about Mark, and his need for attention and adulation. He has that, in great numbers here.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Bonaventure on December 30, 2019, 01:39:13 PM
Matthew said that we are to report Poche's posts if they are a problem. Are you not aware of that?

Of course I'm aware of that.  I'm an adult; I can read. Speaking of which, what part of Reported from Mark 79's post do you not understand?   Or, like a little child, do you need to be taken by the hand and have everything explicitly explained to you?

BTW, did you report Poche's post to Matthew?  If not, then would I be correct in assuming that you implicitly agree with Poche's blasphemies, especially in view of your insistence vis-a-vis Mark 79?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Jaynek on December 30, 2019, 01:53:49 PM
It is evident to me that Sedevacantsits have taken over the forum, and they rule here, with the blessing of the forum owner. It's unfortunate, because the Resistance cannot really tolerate being attacked continually by the sedes and sedeprivationists.

Mark 79 is obviously a narcissist. It's not really about Poche. It's about Mark, and his need for attention and adulation. He has that, in great numbers here.
It is really about Poche.

Poche has posted vast quantities of posts, many of which have disturbing characteristics.  Many members recognize a problem and are concerned about his content, motivation and identity.  Mark is especially concerned with the judaizing trend in many of Poche's posts.  Any traditional Catholic who understands the importance of this issue can recognize what a serious problem this is.  Mark is writing about it because it needs to be written about.  Mark is especially qualified to comment on this aspect of the issue because of his extensive research and knowledge.

There is no good reason to make this about Mark or fabricate unworthy motives for his actions.  Nor was there any reason to use this thread to make personal attacks on Ladislaus.  Nor is there a good reason to derail yet another thread for your obsession with attacking sedevacantists.  

The issue under discussion is Poche who regularly attacks beliefs common to all traditional Catholics.  This is not a matter in which people's position on the Crisis is even relevant.  There is something wrong with you, Meg, in that you seem unable to do anything other than make personal attacks on people.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: JezusDeKoning on December 30, 2019, 03:11:57 PM
It is evident to me that Sedevacantists have taken over the forum, and they rule here, with the blessing of the forum owner. It's unfortunate, because the Resistance cannot really tolerate being attacked continually by the sedes and especially the sedeprivationists (who are worse than the sedes).

Mark 79 is obviously a narcissist. It's not really about Poche. It's about Mark, and his need for attention and adulation. He has that, in great numbers here.
Meg, clear and evident falsehoods like what Poche is doing cannot (emphasis on not) be ignored. If you're ignoring them, then it's safe to assume that you either don't care or you're an idiot.

Making the forum aware about clear and evident falsehoods is not "narcissism". Coming on every thread to complain about Mark and making it about you, however, IS. Have a nice day!
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: 2Vermont on December 30, 2019, 03:51:09 PM
Mark is a sedevacantist, Poche is not.  Duh.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Nadir on December 30, 2019, 04:22:26 PM
Did you report the post to Matthew? Yes or no. I understand that you have to show a bit of drama for your adoring fans here, who expect and have anxious hope for it, but maybe you can just simply answer the question. Is it really that difficult?
Defending our blessed Mother from blasphemy is "a bit of drama"?
Meg, pull your head in. Weird, really weird!
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 30, 2019, 08:24:40 PM
It is evident to me that Sedevacantists have taken over the forum, and they rule here, with the blessing of the forum owner.…

Actually, in our recent frank exchange of views behind the scenes, Matthew was quite disparaging of the sedevacantist position; he gave no "blessing" at all.

Mark 79 is obviously a narcissist. It's not really about Poche. It's about Mark, and his need for attention and adulation. He has that, in great numbers here.

Keep your eye on the ball.

Ignoring Matthew's explicit condemnations and warnings, Poche not only continued his mischaraterization of Pope St. Pius X's position on тαℓмυdic Judaism, but also suggested that the star of the demon Rempham, the explicit topic of the thread, prefigured Our Blessed Mother.

You might consider defending Our Lady.

It really is impressive how you can be wrong such a high percentage of the time. You can't parse a word like "reported," but think you can read my heart, mind, and soul. Impressive. Can you bilocate too?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: rum on December 30, 2019, 08:28:15 PM
Poche is a lightweight Judaizer. That's why I've never paid him the compliment of giving him much attention. I pay attention too those who give him attention. Poche used to mimic icecream, an FE member, when he first joined FE. Babytalk style to ingratiate himself. He's morphed into a more adult type.

Heavyweight Judaizers, such as JayneK, Ggreg, VoxClamantis, Mithrandylan, TMW89, Ubipetrus (GriffRuby), 2Vermont, Hobbledehoy have bothered me more, as they have been respected by an alarming number of people who should know better.

Even MaterDominici and Matthew were charmed by Ggreg. Even Telesphorus, my all-time favorite member of the Catholic fora, aligned himself, briefly, with the lunatic Judaized feminist DawnMarie on ABLF to attack me. DawnMarie even had a private audience with Bishop Richard Williamson, and Bishop Williamson was fooled by her. Bishop Williamson once invited a rabbi to speak to seminarians in Winona. He's also a fan of the very suspect Maria Valtorta.

People who harp on Poche strike me as a bit naive when it comes to Judaizers. Poche is a total lightweight. Any Catholic with a crumb of Catholicus Sensus could spot him right away. Matthew and MaterDominci undoubtedly know that Poche is a fraud.

Jews and the h0Ɩ0h0αx is the ultimate litmus test. And it's a litmus test that "traditional Catholics" are as likely to fail as conciliarists. Too many HarlequinKing fαɢɢօts in traditional Catholic ranks. That type Fr. Feeney described as:

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The Liturgy Loon. (https://fatherfeeney.wordpress.com/2009/08/22/the-point-october-1952/) Armed with an unabridged missal and a course in Gregorian chant, this migratory species travels from parish to parish in search of a properly said Mass.

When he enters a church, his purpose is not to make a visit, but to go on a tour of inspection. And by a few liturgical scowls at the surplus statuary, he can dismiss the devotion of generations of simple Catholics. For the Liturgy Loon’s concern is not prayer, but performance; not dogma, but rubrics; not the Presence of Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, but the absence of lace on the altar boy’s surplice.

The only reason I've been able to ascertain as to why Matthew tolerates Poche's presence is because Poche provides an uptick in activity and, perhaps, an avenue on which Catholics can hone their apologetic skills.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 30, 2019, 08:34:01 PM
"Any Catholic with a crumb of Catholicus Sensus could spot him right away."

Therein lies crux of the Poche problem—the un-catechized and poorly-catechized who cannot "spot him right away."
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 30, 2019, 10:53:08 PM
Poche,

If you are a jew-troll as the evidence implies... are you a rabbi?

Credible trolls, who infiltrate Catholic forums have rabbinical training.  
They understand the Faith, and are adept at advancing lies and myths against it.

You fit this bill.
I am a Catholic.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 30, 2019, 11:01:31 PM
Unfortunately, Poche, you are a willful, unrepentant, blaspheming, habitual liar who recently perpetrated a demonic attack upon the Mother of God.

Did you channel the demon Rempham himself to suggest that his star prefigured the Holy Mother of God?
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 31, 2019, 12:59:11 AM
Actually, in our recent frank exchange of views behind the scenes, Matthew was quite disparaging of the sedevacantist position; he gave no "blessing" at all.

Keep your eye on the ball.

Ignoring Matthew's explicit condemnations and warnings, Poche not only continued his mischaraterization of Pope St. Pius X's position on тαℓмυdic Judaism, but also suggested that the star of the demon Rempham, the explicit topic of the thread, prefigured Our Blessed Mother.

You might consider defending Our Lady.

It really is impressive how you can be wrong such a high percentage of the time. You can't parse a word like "reported," but think you can read my heart, mind, and soul. Impressive. Can you bilocate too?
I don't believe that I misrepresented anything that Pope St Pius X said. During his audience with Herzl, His Holiness asked, "Does it have to be Gerusalemme?" This implies a willingness to consider as legitimate maybe a homeland somewhere else. He also said, I have always been on good terms with Jews. Only the other evening two Jews were here to see me." And it was He sho also said, "After all, there are other bonds than those of religion: courtesy and philanthropy. These we do not deny to the Jews.
With respect to the Blessed Virgin and pagan symbols, God can and does appropriate these things in order to give glory to himself and Our Blessed Lady. The use of evergreens for Christmas, the evergreen wreathes that we use for wreathes, the advent wreath and the Christmas tree.
Another example is how He expropriated the use of a pagan temple to give glory to his mother. In 1531, it was the winter solstice and Tepeyac hill, the place that was chosen to be the site of the Basilica, was originally the place for pagan worship. The godess was known as Tonantzin. Today in the Nahuatl language, Our Lady is called Tonantzin, that is, 'Our Mother."
https://ccjr.us/dialogika-resources/primary-texts-from-the-history-of-the-relationship/herzl1904
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 31, 2019, 01:10:09 AM
To hell with your unconvincing denials. What you "believe" is precisely the problem. Objectively you have habitually lied. When you have been inescapably caught in your lies, you have piled on other lies (not remembering, don't believe, "paraphrasing," words as "prudential silence," etc.) and ineffectually attempted to deflect into tangents, false piety, and complete non-sequiturs.

Since you have been challenged, your mask has been cracking. Your demons are starting to show and the stench of them is unbearable.

Your defense of your blasphemy against the Mother of God is quite revealing and quite despicable.

Seek a holy exorcist.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: ByzCat3000 on December 31, 2019, 01:14:32 AM
Has anyone suggested (((poche))) yet? 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 31, 2019, 01:15:57 AM
Has anyone suggested (((poche))) yet?
Several have suggested so and, being a habitual liar, his denials are meaningless.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 31, 2019, 01:17:02 AM
To hell with your unconvincing denials. What you "believe" is precisely the problem. Objectively you have habitually lied. When you have been inescapably caught in your lies, you have piled on other lies (not remembering, don't believe, "paraphrasing," words as "prudential silence," etc.) and ineffectually attempted to deflect into tangents, false piety, and complete non-sequiturs.

Since you have been challenged, your mask has been cracking. Your demons are starting to show and the stench of them is unbearable.

Your defense of your blasphemy against the Mother of God is quite revealing and quite despicable.

Seek a holy exorcist.
How? It was the Holy Virgin herself who chose to appear on the site of a temple dedicated to a pagan deity.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 31, 2019, 01:25:28 AM
You suggested that the devil Rempham's star prefigured the Mother of God.

You cannot slither away or explain away such an outrageous blasphemy. You cannot generate enough smoke or excuses to hide that objective fact or to divert me/us into a rabbit hole of your non-sequiturs.

Seek a holy exorcist.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 31, 2019, 02:03:35 AM
You suggested that the devil Rempham's star prefigured the Mother of God.

You cannot slither away or explain away such an outrageous blasphemy. You cannot generate enough smoke or excuses to hide that objective fact or to divert me/us into a rabbit hole of your non-sequiturs.

Seek a holy exorcist.
God chose Tepeyac, the site of a pagan temple to be the place for His basilica dedicated to His Mother. He chose Massabielle, a site for throwing garbage, to be the site of another basilica dedicated to His Holy Mother. He can also choose a pagan star to be the prefiguration for the advent of the Holy Virgin, who is the Star of the Sea.     
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 31, 2019, 02:04:59 AM
I understand that, having been caught in your blasphemy, that you would like to conceal it with whatever deceit or diversion it takes—that is precisely the pattern you have displayed repeatedly—but here's the bottom line—you said verbatim:

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"The star of the Jews [the star of Rempham: Acts 7:43, Amos 5:26] could also be a prefiguration of the Blessed Virgin. "
https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/st-stephen-exposed-the-jew's-occult-star/msg681317/#msg681317 (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/st-stephen-exposed-the-jew's-occult-star/msg681317/#msg681317)
(https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/st-stephen-exposed-the-jew's-occult-star/msg681317/#msg681317)

prefigure | prēˈfiɡyər |
verb [with object]
1 be an early indication or version of (something)
2 archaic imagine beforehand


A devil or his sign is NOT an "early indication or version" of Mary.

As far as I am concerned, YOU, not Mary, are a devil or guided by one or more devils.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: poche on December 31, 2019, 02:18:34 AM
I understand that, having been caught in your blasphemy, that you would like to conceal it with whatever deceit or diversion it takes—that is precisely the pattern you have displayed repeatedly—but here's the bottom line—you said verbatim:
 (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/st-stephen-exposed-the-jew's-occult-star/msg681317/#msg681317)

prefigure | prēˈfiɡyər |
verb [with object]
1 be an early indication or version of (something)
2 archaic imagine beforehand


A devil or his sign is NOT an "early indication or version" of Mary.

As far as I am concerned, YOU, not Mary, are a devil or guided by one or more devils.
The Devil also (against his will) kneels before the Christ. 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Mark 79 on December 31, 2019, 02:32:39 AM
The Devil also (against his will) kneels before the Christ.
It is not lost on anyone here (except Meg) that you blasphemed Mary and have "doubled down" variously defending and clumsily attempting to cover up your blasphemy, not expressing any remorse whatsoever.

Only devils and their minions do that. Certainly no decent Catholic would suggest that a demon was an early indication or version of Mary—and then defend the blasphemy.


Prayer to Defeat the Work of Satan

O Divine Eternal Father, in union with Your Divine Son and the Holy Spirit, and through the Immaculate Heart of Mary, I beg You to destroy the Power of Your greatest enemy – the evil spirits.

Cast them into the deepest recesses of hell and chain them there forever!  Take possession of your Kingdom which you have created and which is rightfully yours.

Heavenly Father, give us the reign of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

I repeat this prayer out of pure love for You with every beat of my heart and with every breath I take.  AMEN.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Incredulous on December 31, 2019, 06:41:06 AM
I am a Catholic.

That’s the same response the SSPX’s Dresden jew, Maxie Krah gave the trad press.

He’s an up & coming young Zionist, who’s main sin was being discovered by the trad Catholic goyim.
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Pax Vobis on December 31, 2019, 08:24:00 AM

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He can also choose a pagan star to be the prefiguration for the advent of the Holy Virgin, who is the Star of the Sea.     
Where’s the evidence, Poche?  Quit making these heretical and blasphemous assumptions based only on your stupid logic of “Well, God could do this...”
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If you’re gonna comment on a topic, then provide proof of your assertion.  Don’t make crap up to suit your agenda and lead others astray. 
Title: Re: poche ... please explain
Post by: Matthew on December 31, 2019, 08:30:03 AM
Unless you can show otherwise, it is to be assumed that the modern State of Israel, with their 6-pointed star, has NOTHING TO DO with the Star of David, any more than the modern ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan has to do with the Jews of the Old Testament.

A link between the modern Israeli flag six-pointed star and ancient Jєωιѕн idolatry (which is, ultimately, devil worship) is VERY reasonable and likely.

One must understand that a huge change took place in the Jєωιѕн religion around 33 AD -- including the goodness and good will of the religion's adherents. The Fathers of the Church speak about the "Jєωιѕн religion" becoming positively noxious at some point after Our Lord's Resurrection and Ascension.

One cannot willfully reject God Himself, to the point of killing him by crucifixion, and hating God personally and viscerally, without ending up a tool of the devil.

The тαℓмυd, written after Our Lord's Ascension, was born after the Jєωιѕн religion became the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. It is chock full of error and horrible blasphemy. This isn't cute, Fiddler-on-the-Roof, ignorant Jews, "Oh Lord, why won't you come already? We're still waiting" like the main character of Fiddler on the Roof. Supernaturally wrong, but full of natural goodness, good-willed and generally lovable. I doubt any such Jews exist today, and if they do, they aren't the ones we talk about on CathInfo.

If you want to see the real evil of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, look at the antics of the Great Whore (an aging 80's pop singer of Italian extraction, I refuse to use her stage name which mocks Our Lady) and other modern politicians, movie directors/writers, actors, and singers. Look at Jeffrey Epstein and his clientele. Child sex, child slavery, cнιℓd тrαffιcking, child torture/sacrifice. Evil stuff.

"I know thy tribulation and thy poverty, but thou art rich: and thou art blasphemed by them that say they are Jews and are not, but are the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. (http://drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=73&ch=2&l=9-9&q=1#x)" (Apocalypse 2:9)