This is all well and good but I want the PROOF that he is not a vile Muhammodan. :devil2:

Again, do people like you even read what I write or read anything that opposes your a priori assumptions?

It is as if you accept certain assertions as infallibly correct and then look at all evidence through this faulty prism.

FWIW, this is exactly what many (most?) here see as your MO.

GV, SS, and all other "Birthers"....anything to say??

*crickets*

I find it amusing that you would ask if we have anything to say, then presume we do not BEFORE anyone could possibly respond.

As an aside, you must have the lightest case load of any lawyer in the military.

Yes, I do. Actually click on the link and read it and then get ready to eat crow.

Contrary to what you think this is not the occasion to do so. But to be honest, I would much rather eat pickled crow gizzards than swallow the bull shit that you frequently buy (and resell).

I was right... the goalpost is being moved.

How so?  Discussing whether or not the docuмent is genuine is not a question of moving the goal post; it is ascertaining whether or not the ball actually passed between the uprights.

World Intel Says Obama 'Birth
Certificate' A Rank Forgery

By Wayne Madsen
4-28-11
 
World intelligence agencies: Obama's long form birth certificate a rank forgery
 
From intelligence agencies around the world, the verdict on President Obama's newly-released certificate of live birth from Hawaii is in: the certificate is a rank forgery on the same level as the Niger "yellow cake" uranium and Iraq Oil Ministry forged docuмents. Intelligence and law enforcement services are experts on fake docuмents since they have to deal with large numbers of counterfeit docuмents, such as birth certificates, passports, identity cards and driver's licenses, as well as currency. Intelligence agencies are also experts at forging their own docuмents for their clandestine agents.
 
Within 24-hours of the release of the long form Certificate of Live Birth on April 27, intelligence agencies from Britain and China to Germany and Russia examined the docuмent and concluded it was a forgery based on the fact that Barack H. Obama Sr.'s race, listed as "African," was a monumental error, considering that not only the United States, but other English-speaking nations described Africans and those of African descent as either "Negroes" or "blacks" in 1961.

 
Intelligence experts point out that "African" is a major clue indicating a forgery.
 
In 1961, the U.S. Department of Health, Education, and Welfare classified non-Whites, who were not Asian, Eskimo, Aleut, Hawaiian, part-Hawaiian, or other "non-White," as "Negro." The U.S. Census Bureau also used the term "Asian and other Pacific Islander" in 1961, which included Filipino, Hawaiian, and part-Hawaiian. The Census Bureau, like HEW, used the term "Negro" to describe blacks and those of black descent. The term "mulatto," used to describe those of mixed white and black ancestry, ceased being used by the U.S. Census Bureau in 1918.
 
1961 Vital Statistics of the United States;
U. S. Dept. of Health Education, and Welfare;
Public Health Service;
National Center for Health Statistics;
National Vital Statistics Division;
 
Race and color
 
Births in the United States in 1961 are classified for vital statistics into white, Negro, American Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Aleut, Eskimo, Hawaiian and Part-Hawaiian (combined), and "other nonwhite."
 
The category "white" includes, in addition to persons reported as "white," those reported as Mexican or Puerto Rican. With one exception, a reported mixture of Negro with any other race is included in the Negro group; other mixed parentage is classified according to the race of the nonwhite parent and mixtures of nonwhite races to the race of the father. The exception refers to a mixture of Hawaiian and any other race, which is classified as Part-Hawaiian. In most tables a less detailed classification of "white" and "nonwhite" is used.
 
In the United Kingdom, the terms "black" and "Asian" were used in the 1961 census to describe those who were "non-white British" nationals. Barack Obama, Sr., as a citizen of the British Colony of Kenya, would have known that his British racial designation was "black" in 1961. The term "African" was not used as a racial designation in either the colony of Kenya or on the British mainland. In South Africa and other British colonies in Africa, "Coloured" was used to describe those of mixed white-black descent.
 
The consensus among intelligence agency experts is that the Obama long form Certificate of Live Birth was hastily manufactured by an amateur who never thought of using the standard race designation of Negro in Barack Obama, Sr.'s racial designation block on the form either due to ignorance or an attempt to be politically correct in 2011 by refusing to use an accepted term from 1961.
 
The past decade has seen the use of crude forgeries to propel the United States into a war in Iraq (the bogus Niger "yellow cake" uranium docuмents) and to try to indict various U.S. and foreign politicians and businessmen (the fake Iraq Oil Ministry "Oil-for-Food" docuмents). The Obama forged Certificate of Live Birth represents yet another attempt to perpetuate a fraud on a grand scale.

I was a bit unfair perhaps...
I love debate on the merits and on facts as you know.

There is nothing to fear from such examination.  For some reason, stevie wonder thinks we should all just presume the White House is telling the truth, the doc is necessarily legit, etc.

On the African race....

Instructions on how to fill out a birth certificate are to ask the father what he considers his race to be not to arbitrarily decide for him.

See box 25.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/birth11-03final-ACC.pdf

So it's not about what an American in 1961 would say about his race, but rather what an African would say in 1961 about his race.

Turns out, it's perfectly normal.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/04/the-african-race/

So clearly the question is not how Americans described Africans, but how Africans described Africans in 1961, which brings us to the featured Kwame Nkruma. Nkruma was an influential 20th century advocate of Pan-Africanism, and the leader of Ghana and its predecessor state, the Gold Coast, from 1952 to 1966. In his in his 1961 book, I Speak of Freedom, he wrote:

I believe strongly and sincerely that with the deep-rooted wisdom and dignity, the innate respect for human lives, the intense humanity that is our heritage, the African race, united under one federal government, will emerge not as just another world bloc to flaunt its wealth and strength, but as a Great Power whose greatness is indestructible because it is built not on fear, envy and suspicion, nor won at the expense of others, but founded on hope, trust, friendship and directed to the good of all mankind.

Africans had been speaking of the “African race” since at least the 19th century. African nationalist John Chilembwe of Nyassaland said:

“to unite together in the name of Jesus Christ such persons as desire to see full justice done to the African race and are resolved to work towards the day when African people shall become an African Christian nation”…”to pursue steadily and unswervingly the policy of ‘Africa for Africans!’”

Do you really want me to do the photoshop bit as well ?  Do yourself the favor in trying to debunk it yourself, are you afraid to feel dirty in doing so ? It's actually fun.