When it is has already become so blatantly apparent that the state is our enemy and wants us spiritually, mentally, and physically sick and dying, to what extent can regulations on what we can do to take treatment into our own hands  be viewed as just? Genuinely asking

seriously is this a satire post? Are trads really making illogical nonsense propaganda point and fallacies??? Huh?

seriously is this a satire post? Are trads really making illogical nonsense propaganda point and fallacies??? Huh?

Some of these are just outright lies (making you gαy ) . Also people can develop the same issues from alcohol. Schizophrenia for example has to do with those who have dispositions for it...

Spoken as someone who has never experienced debilitating social anxiety.

 Do you know how many priests condemn the use of marijuana even for medical purposes? You are coping so hard it’s cringe

Marijuana (rightly) has a stigma attached to it that makes it seem trashy. The smell is enough to render it much more disagreeable than alcohol or tobacco.
Weak argument as someone can use a vapouriser completely bypassing the smell and health defects of smoke.
I guess everyone who smokes weed uses a vaporizer which invalidates my argument! Who knew!
Smoke can easily be avoided, so your argument is extremely weak. If someone used a vape you wouldn't even know it.

Look at the members of society who abuse marijuana and what type of people they are. By smoking marijuana, you would be casting your lots with them.
Strawman. Plenty of successful people drink alcohol, and plenty of 'unsuccessful' people drink alcohol. By driving a car you are like bad drivers? Or are you like good drivers. "Look at people who abuse alcohol"
I would wager that the majority of people who drink alcohol, even nightly, are just normal people. Think of all of the Catholic dads who have a drink or so after work. Whereas far and away the vast majority of stoners are degenerate freaks. This, to the point that you could almost say the weed is what causes them to be degenerate freaks, that's how 1:1 the association is. Again, maybe you don't know a lot of people....
 Do you perhaps believe that a normal person can't use weed in the same manner? Think of a Catholic dad who after work used a small amount of weed to relax, how is that any different from having alcohol in moderation?
"The vast majority" that is cope. The vast majority of people that drink drink a lot, I've seen secular people, they LOVE their beer, that's why they all have fat bellies.

There is more to the argument than simply the ability or inability for marijuana to cause the complete loss of reason.
Overuse of alcohol can also cause the loss of reason. Why are you using that marijuana usage = getting high?
No one has ever smoked marijuana without the express purpose of "getting high" or receiving the effects of "getting high". "Oh boy I can't wait to smoke this blunt for the taste!!!"
That's completely unture. You can use weed without getting high you know. Similar to how a little alcohol can make you feel good without being drunk, so a little weed can do something similar. Different strains have different effects. You are straw Manning, and yes some people do like the taste.

1) Stigma attached makes it completely scandalous and in most traditional circles will result in complete irreparable loss of reputation.
No one said anything about public use or around trads
Ok??? Seems like you are admitting that it is intrinsically scandalous. I could drink wine, smoke cigars, whatever around trads I respect, and they would want to join in. Imagine now if I pulled a blunt out. You admit this point so I will leave it at that.
Your use of scandalous was incorrect, also you are making assumptions. It's like saying oh you can't marry a girl too much younger than you that's scandalous. Both uses of scandalous here is incorrect. If using a bit of weed makes trads uncomfortable that means they are brainwashed by jews. Of course St Paul tells us to avoid doing anything that may upset the brethren, hence why I said not to use it around trads, for the sake of charity not because it's wrong.

2) Scientific studies have proven beyond any doubt that marijuana use destroys brain matter, causes insomnia, contributes to the development of schizophrenia in adulthood, and makes you gαy, etc, etc.
Some of these are just outright lies (making you gαy ) . Also people can develop the same issues from alcohol. Schizophrenia for example has to do with those who have dispositions for it...
Here is where you show your complete ignorance. Dude weed makes you gαy ask literally anyone who smokes it. You don't know what you are talking about at all. You do not have the competency to discuss this. Every girl I have been around who smokes even a little bit of weed becomes bisɛҳuąƖ and a good amount of the men do to. It is the same with steroids, everyone anecdotally knows they can make you gαy. Just because there is no "academic" evidence by some Jєωιѕн scientist to support the claim, does not make it any less true.
You are literally retarded. Like dude bro alcohol makes you gαy, if you drink too much you lose your reason and end up kissing men in a dare like bro it's so gαy bro. 

3) I have friends who had smoked marijuana daily before becoming traditional catholic. They are unanimous in agreeing that marijuana use is 100% a mortal sin.
Sounds like someone who lacked discipline and now projects that onto others. "I drank alcohol everyday that means drinking alcohol is 100% a mortal sin"
No, what it sounds like, is they smoked weed and understood their reasons for doing so, and those reasons did not amount to anything more to "I wanted to get high or experience the benefits of being high in some way." They are not saying that addictive use of weed = mortal sin, they are saying smoking it once = mortal sin. I would know, I am friends with them and have known like 100+ stoners in my life.
Smoking weed once isn't a mortal sin, this was mentioned much earlier in this thread, that people who had addictions to things tend to demonise any use of that thing due to their improper use of that thing. Would you rather have a person risk opioid addiction or use weed for medicine?

4) Not an academic argument, but look at Rome (built by alcoholics) vs Portland (built by stoners)
modern alcohol is very different from past alcohol, pesticides, cleaning Chemicals used on the barrels and other factors. Where the romans drunk or just had some alcohol?
What? I am baffled by this. Ok so according to you, I guess modern alcohol is somehow not comparable to the alcohol the Romans drank? Were the Romans drunk? Yeah. I think so. Read any book ever about Rome or Greece. In Symposium, Alcibiades comes in drunk off his rocker and gets everyone (all of the philosophers of Athens) drunk with him (excluding Socrates). Ovid, Horace, etc, etc all talk about getting wasted constantly. Again you are just revealing your ignorance here.
You are once again making nonsense up. You are conflating getting drunk to building a civilization. Guess what a drunk person can't work properly either. They actually need to have use of their facilities, so they can't be too intoxicated. 

5) The only reason a sheltered traditional catholic child would ever try marijuana is because they were given the impetus to as a result of some gαy rebellious desire, which presumes that they know that it is stigmatized and bad.
"The only reason a sheltered traditional catholic child would ever try ALCOHOL/CIGARS is because they were given the impetus to as a result of some gαy rebellious desire, which presumes that they know that it is stigmatized and bad."
Yeah that's not true at all. Alcohol is not stigmatized nearly in the same way. Catholic children drink alcohol all of the time with their parents consent. Now if the kid were abusing alcohol, then it would probably stem from such a impetus, but no one is condoning abuse of alcohol either (although it is much better than abuse of weed which gives you schizophrenia).
Both alcohol and weed can bring up schizophrenia in those with the disposition. Secondly the stigma comes due to immoderate use due to Jєωιѕн propaganda. The pharmaceutical industry would lose a lot of Addicted patients if those people could access medicinal marijuana. I know someone who had/has? An oppoid addiction, it's not good.

6) Its gαy and retarded
You already had ridiculous points earlier but this is clearly nonsense (aka brainwashing cope, there is no logic and reason here)
No this is just intuitive and anyone who isn't actually brainwashed under the guise of grand academic theorizing and pointless reexamination would understand this.
No you are just brainwashed by propaganda. That's why you have no real points and just cope using extreme examples while ignoring Catholic moral theology.

7) Just drink alcohol like your European ancestors have for 6000 years
A certain Catholic saint used marijuana for health reasons perhaps you've heard of Saint Hildegard? Also you do realise that many plants were used by people in the past before Jєωιѕн companies banned them because of (((reasons)))?
Idk what book you are reading about St. Hildegard but where does it say that she ever *smoked* weed? No where. Also, don't act like weed has not been bred over the course of the last 60 years to be like 20x more potent than it is naturally. Also, what you are implying in the second half of this is that Weed was so good for people and so epic that the dirty cunning Jews decided it was too good for us. What are you talking about lol
You can literally pick you strength of medicinal marijuana, that means you can make informed decisions. It's no different from alcohol content labelling. You're not going to drink a lot of alcohol that's 40%+ strength, but you may drink a moderate amount of something around 2-5% strength without getting drunk. Yes the pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money from their drugs, most of which can be replaced by marijuana that grows easily and cheaply.

8) "Ohhh brrruuhhhh I feel so chilll right now brruuhhh" it makes you talk and act like a retard. Whereas alcohol amplifies charisma in the charismatic, industriousness in the inquisitive, and geniality in the sociable.
you are comparing someone high to someone who had a little of alcohol. If you have too much alcohol you also become retarded. Also alcohol doesn't affect everyone in the same way.

That's not what anxiety is