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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
« Reply #240 on: March 12, 2022, 01:07:56 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on December 31, 2021, 05:33:20 PM
    What's a "Behar?"

    I will read some of them. Why did you have to post so many? I will consider the evidence.

    Some of us have had personal experience with potheads. I recall seeing a bumper sticker when I was a teen in the '70's. It said...."Are you stoned, or just stupid?"

    I don't think that pot is as benign and wonderful as you make it out to be. It still takes one away from reality. So does alcohol. If someone needs that, then fine. But they shouldn't pretend that it's just for "medical" reasons.

    To suggest that people who suffer from many illnesses are "pretending" is wicked.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #241 on: March 12, 2022, 01:08:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on March 12, 2022, 12:53:27 PM
    Are you dyslexic? Or a habitual liar? .....You are an ill-willed fraud.... You are wicked ...

    If you insist on making personal attacks.
    Using personal attacks to complain about personal attacks? 
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #242 on: March 12, 2022, 01:12:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 01, 2022, 11:08:18 AM
    Yes, I do believe that the intent, for most who smoke pot, is to get high. And....there can be serious side effects.

    There you go again. You believe you know better than the patients themselves why they treat with MJ.

    Bilocate now. Prove that you have such charisms.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #243 on: March 12, 2022, 01:12:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 12, 2022, 01:08:17 PM
    Using personal attacks to complain about personal attacks?
    Read your own early posts in this thread, hypocrite.

    You are the jerk that brought my children into this discussion:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg797830/#msg797830
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #244 on: March 12, 2022, 01:22:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on March 12, 2022, 02:46:55 AM
    I tolerate its appropriate recreational use, as with alcohol. Some people (e.g., mentally unstable people, people with substance abuse problems) should not use either MJ or alcohol. 
    How does one know that their children are mentally unstable or  prone to substance abuse?

    I for instance do not allow my daughters to go out on "dates" without a chaperone, moreover, I don't allow them to be alone with men. All men who want to be alone with my daughters are no good. I do not "tolerate it", that is alone dating, in the same sense, I think all marijuana recreational use is no good, I do not "tolerate it".  It is the s    ame with M79's "tolerating" recreational use of marijuana? To each his own.

    Do you have children or grandchildren using marijuana "recreationally" M79?

    How do you know that they are using it "appropriately" and that they are not prone to "substance abuse"?
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #245 on: March 12, 2022, 01:23:51 PM »
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    • Don't evade the fact, jerk, You are the jerk that brought my children into this discussion:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg797830/#msg797830

    Hypocrite. You complain about personal attacks after YOU brought my children into this.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #246 on: March 12, 2022, 01:32:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on March 12, 2022, 01:23:51 PM
    Don't evade the fact, jerk, You are the jerk that brought my children into this discussion:

    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg797830/#msg797830
    LOL, I believe in that case too, I came into the conversation because you were picking on Meg.

    Anyhow, you do not know how to have a discussion with anyone without jumping into personal attacks. Listen, you can call me anything you want, to me you are just some words on the screen, so lets' not waste time here and just take that chip off your shoulder and just answer my questions and I'll answer yours. What I just wrote is as clear as day, but I'll even spell it out for you:  your saying you tolerate "responsible" recreational use of marijuana is bad advice for young people, it is akin to saying that you tolerate touching, fondling, French kissing, but you are against pre-marital sex.


    Do you have children or grandchildren using marijuana "recreationally" M79?


    How do you know that they are using it "appropriately" and that they are not prone to "substance abuse"?
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #247 on: March 12, 2022, 01:34:49 PM »
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    • YOU brought my children into this discussion TWICE, then you complained about "personal attacks."

    MEG stated she knew the true intent of medical patients TWICE, then feigned that she forgot that.

    None of you anti-MJ zealots have provided any serious counter-evidence.

    We are 17 pages into this subject. If you had serious counter-evidence, you'd already have posted it.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #248 on: March 12, 2022, 02:26:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on March 12, 2022, 01:34:49 PM
    We are 17 pages into this subject. If you had serious counter-evidence, you'd already have posted it.
    Not one word from me in those 17 pages, I just came in and asked two questions and you can't even answer that.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #249 on: March 12, 2022, 02:36:25 PM »
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #250 on: March 12, 2022, 03:40:29 PM »
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    • Mark 79,

    You must have been bothered by my question regarding who it is that has paid you to interview hundreds of MJ users. 
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #251 on: March 12, 2022, 03:45:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on January 01, 2022, 11:08:18 AM
    Yes, I do believe that the intent, for most who smoke pot, is to get high. And....there can be serious side effects.
    A verbatim quote. Nothing added, nothing "twisted."
    You are a liar.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #252 on: March 12, 2022, 03:46:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on March 12, 2022, 03:45:10 PM
    A verbatim quote. Nothing added, nothing "twisted."
    You are a liar.

    Who is it that paid you to interview hundreds of MJ users? 
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    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #253 on: March 12, 2022, 03:52:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on March 12, 2022, 03:40:29 PM
    Mark 79,

    You must have been bothered by my question regarding who it is that has paid you to interview hundreds of MJ users.

    You must be bothered that you can cite NO SERIOUS EVIDENCE to support your anti-MJ frothing.

    Further ill-will from you. I described speaking with hundreds of people during my medical MJ activism. I never described those interactions as "interviews." People simply thanked me for my activism and shared
    their problems that were benefitted by their medical use of MJ. I certainly have not been paid for any of my activism… not for my antiwar activism… not for my anti-sodomite pedo priest activism… not for pro-life activism… not for my gun rights activism… not for my medical MJ activism… not for running for state senate. Decades of activism, not paid ever. Shove your innuendo.

    You make it ever more clear why your [Behar]ness creates problems at home that you act out here.
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    Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
    « Reply #254 on: March 12, 2022, 03:55:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Mark 79 on March 12, 2022, 02:36:25 PM
    Really? "Not one word"?

    Several words from you about my children:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg797830/#msg797830

    and then again several more words about my children: https://www.cathinfo.com/fighting-errors-in-the-modern-world/marijuana-use-sinful-for-catholics/msg812609/#msg812609

    and still nothing from you but B.S.
    I didn't even notice this is the same thread as before from like 4 months ago, it seems like years ago to me, long forgotten.  Anyhow serves me right for letting you change the subject. Till you answer my clear questions, there's no point in writing anything else but my observation and questions:

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    What I just wrote is as clear as day, but I'll even spell it out for you:  your saying you tolerate "responsible" recreational use of marijuana is bad advice for young people, it is akin to saying that you tolerate touching, fondling, French kissing, but you are against pre-marital sex.



    Do you have children or grandchildren using marijuana "recreationally" M79?


    How do you know that they are using it "appropriately" and that they are not prone to "substance abuse"?


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