Author Topic: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics? (Read 52881 times)

epiphany · « **Reply #465 on:** March 29, 2022, 08:19:22 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 29, 2022, 05:28:13 PM

Most of you who smoke pot are probably in your 50s?

What is your diet? Junkfood or do you eat healthy? Just curious.

More presumptions.....

epiphany · « **Reply #466 on:** March 29, 2022, 08:21:48 PM »

Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 29, 2022, 07:48:49 PM

Mark79 is like a broken record or a parrot, just repeating the same lines. Here is how this thread started, I post it again:

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

epiphany · « **Reply #467 on:** March 29, 2022, 08:23:08 PM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 29, 2022, 07:49:57 PM

Do you buy from a dealer?( many do sell ti young people and yes many drug dealers sex traffic. ). Do you grow yourself?? Simple question.

Data, please.... otherwise it is presumption

epiphany · « **Reply #468 on:** March 29, 2022, 08:25:42 PM »

Quote from: trad123 on March 29, 2022, 07:58:30 PM

Is it not self evident that asking, "Do you buy your pot or grow it?",

is not the same thing as asking,

"Are you growing it yourself or are you buying from a drug dealer who sells to children or sex traffic young girls??"

?

Mark 79 · « **Reply #469 on:** March 29, 2022, 08:26:32 PM »

Bray the same poison, expect the same antidote.

epiphany · « **Reply #470 on:** March 29, 2022, 08:28:15 PM »

Quote from: Mark 79 on March 29, 2022, 08:10:41 PM

And the other SSPX priest they have used for support is the one who illegally failed to report a serial pederast because he knew the true "intent" of the victim was to avoid summer camp.

Birds of a feather.

Who was that? Fr. Angeli?

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #471 on:** March 29, 2022, 10:45:00 PM »

LT, Viva = puritans = obsessed with controlling others.

Control freaks tend to have a psychological need to be in charge of things and people around them. This often includes circuмstances that cannot be changed or even controlled. The need for control can stem from deeper psychological issues such as obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), anxiety disorders or personality disorders.

epiphany · « **Reply #472 on:** March 29, 2022, 10:46:42 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on March 29, 2022, 10:45:00 PM

LT, Viva = puritans = obsessed with controlling others.

Control freaks tend to have a psychological need to be in charge of things and people around them. This often includes circuмstances that cannot be changed or even controlled. The need for control can stem from deeper psychological issues such as obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), anxiety disorders or personality disorders.

Seems that way to me, too, based on their words.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #473 on:** March 30, 2022, 04:34:40 AM »

And yet you didn’t know what Spy Wednesday is. Even most novus Ordo Catholics know this. Typical dumb disrespectful punk with sodomite attitude.

Maybe you should study the Baltimore Catechism.

I think your mommy just called you. Time to crawl from the basement. Maybe mommy can bake you a cake.

epiphany · « **Reply #474 on:** March 30, 2022, 08:19:48 AM »

Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on March 30, 2022, 04:34:40 AM

And yet you didn’t know what Spy Wednesday is. Even most novus Ordo Catholics know this. Typical dumb disrespectful punk with sodomite attitude.

Maybe you should study the Baltimore Catechism.

I think your mommy just called you. Time to crawl from the basement. Maybe mommy can bake you a cake.

Seems like other don't know what Spy Wednesday is, either. Is Nadir a dumb disrespectful punk with sodomite attitude, because she doesn't know what it is, either?

Maybe YOU should read the Baltimore Catechism and stop spouting "Catholicism according to VCR".

I WISH my mommy was calling me. She died.

You are a nasty piece of work.

Mark 79 · « **Reply #475 on:** March 02, 2025, 10:48:24 AM »

This is the old thread on marijuana that best addressed the research.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #476 on:** March 02, 2025, 10:57:08 AM »

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #477 on:** March 02, 2025, 10:59:27 AM »

Marijuana causes cancer.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #478 on:** March 02, 2025, 11:04:52 AM »

Per Tradman:

Recreational use of Marijuana

“1. Opens the soul to demonic influence.
2. Weakens moral judgement
3. Promotes immorality
4. Fosters narcissism
5. Leads to moral pessimism
6. Is socially and morally divisive
7. Promotes laziness toward Catholic works
8. Promotes disobedience to priests and the Church
9. Promotes disobedience to secular authority
10. Is a safety issue for children who's parents use.
11. Causes neglect, and abuse of children by parents who use
12. Dulls sense of guilt and is counter to Sacrament of Confession
13. Profanes the reception of the Eucharist
14. Is falsely equated with moderate use of alcohol
15. Often leads to use of other drugs
16. Promotes secrecy and leads to animosity
17. Promotes other crime
18. Often destroys relationships
19. Impedes the desire to attain heaven
20. Leads to a liberal and worldly mindset
21. Retards emotions
22. Wastes opportunities for good
23 Impedes Christ's mandate to evangelize
24 Denies Scripture's command to stay sober
25 Denies the modest conduct of Our Lady
26 Leads to the unforgivable sin of despair
27 Is often its own object of worship
28. Causes certain kinds of brain damage
29. Often leads to other addictions
30. Inhibits holiness
31. Is well founded in paganism, abhorred in Christendom
32. Is proven by all the above to be a "sacrament" of the diabolic

This list is by no means exhaustive, barely even scratches the surface. After it exceeded 21, I figured this was enough to get the picture. If anyone disagrees, present your argument. Whatever you do, don't smoke weed, rather, do penance for the salvation of souls. “

Mark 79 · « **Reply #479 on:** March 03, 2025, 09:20:08 AM »

The endocannabinoid system—whazzat?

Your body makes, uses, and needs marijuana-like chemicals called “endocannabinoids.” Your physical and mental health require these endocannabinoids. Members of the Animal Kingdom, from sponges to men, have nerve and other organ receptors that respond to endocannabinoids. A basic understanding of the nervous system illustrates how these endocannabinoids work.

The basics

The nervous system works using the movement of chemicals and electricity. In its most simplified fashion, electrochemical activity usually proceeds along the “wires” (axons) of nerve cells (“neurons”) to the tip where special chemicals (“neurotransmitters”) are released into a space between neighboring neurons. The space is called a “synapse”. The neurotransmitter is released from a “presynaptic” neuron, and then diffuses across the synapse to bind to receptors in the neighboring “postsynaptic” neuron.

Neurotransmitters fit specific receptors to activate (or block) those receptors, sort of like a key in a lock. Our own bodies make endocannabinoids that fit our endocannabinoid receptors. Marijuana works because many of marijuana’s chemicals are like “keys” that fit and activate our different endocannabinoid “locks.” Marijuana’s chemicals are “phytocannabinoids,” plant cannabinoids.

Endocannabinoids are unique in a few respects. Most neurotransmitters are synthesized in advance by the presynaptic neurons to be stored in tiny packets (“vesicles”) in the cells to be available when needed. Endocannabinoids are not synthesized in advance and stored, but are synthesized on demand for immediate release. Also, it is not the presynaptic neurons but the postsynaptic neurons that synthesize the endocannabinoids. This means that the endocannabinoids are released into the synapse and then diffuse backwards to affect the presynaptic neuron. In a sense, the chemicals go against the flow of “electricity” to modulate the flow of “electricity,” hence endocannabinoids are sometimes classed as “neuromodulators.” Similar chemical interactions also occur in the organs outside of the nervous system.
The chemicals

Endocannabinoids are fats (“lipids”), so are able to diffuse quickly through lipid-laden tissues and membranes. In 1992 Anandamide, also known as N-arachidonylethanolamine or “AEA”, was the first endocannabinoid identified and was named from the Sanskrit word “ananda” (“bliss”) joined with “amide,” the name of its general chemical class. So far, other identified endocannabinoids include 2-arachidonylyglycerol (“2-AG”), 2-arachidonyl glyceryl ether (noladin ether), O-arachidonyl ethanolamine (“OAE” or virodhamine), and N-arachidonyl dopamine (NADA). While “your” government tells you there is no medical use for marijuana, Big Pharma has been developing proprietary variations of endocannabinoids and marijuana’s chemicals to sell you.

The receptor subtypes

In man the endocannabinoids bind to endocannabinoid receptors of different subtypes distributed throughout our many organ systems. The best characterized of these receptor subtypes are the CB1 and CB2 receptors, however there are likely at least three additional subtypes that are temporarily and not very cleverly named “non-CB1/non-CB2” receptors.

CB1 receptors

CB1 receptors are most widely found in the brain, but are not found in the brainstem, the medulla, where our important respiratory and heart control centers are located. It is thought that the absence of cannabinoids receptors in the brainstem accounts for the enormous safety of marijuana. Cannabinoids, unlike opiates, cannot depress the brainstem’s control centers of respiratory and heart function. CB1 receptors are not limited to the brain, but are also widely distributed in the pituitary, thyroid, adrenals, liver, lung, kidney, gut, pain receptors, and even our reproductive systems. Endocannabinoids are suspected to play a role in regulating the implantation of newly conceived babies. There appears to be an optimum level of endocannabinoids for fertility. If levels are too high or too low the baby will not implant properly or grow in the mother’s womb.

A strain of laboratory mice without CB1 receptors, known as “CB1 knockout mice,” suffer from severe memory problems and die early from stroke and heart attack. These observations in mice correlate with research in humans showing the importance of cannabinoids in modulating memory, cardiovascular function, and nerve-protecting effects.

It is well known that cannabis affects appetite, gives you “the munchies,” and also makes you happy. Research aimed at the role of cannabis in appetite led to the development of very potent appetite suppressants. A drug that blocks CB1 receptors, Rimonabant, was a very effective and widely prescribed appetite suppressant in Europe. Despite its effectiveness in dieting, Rimonabant was pulled from the market. Why? Big Pharma’s drug so completely blocked patients’ natural endocannabinoids that patients were deprived of not only their craving for food, but also deprived of their mental health. Because Rimonabant blocked the mood stabilizing effects of natural endocannabinoids, Rimonabant users were committing ѕυιcιdє in significant numbers.

What do we learn from these observations? Endocannabinoids maintain our physical health and mental stability. Yes, Divine Providence at work—happy minds and healthy bodies require marijuana-like chemicals!

CB2 receptors

CB2 receptors are also widely distributed, most notably throughout the immune system (T-cells, B-cells, macrophages, monocytes, etc.) and hematopoietic (blood-making) system of the spleen, liver, tonsils, thymus, and bone marrow. CB2 receptors are found in the brain, but unlike CB1 receptors that are mostly observed on neurons, the nerve cells, CB2 receptors are found primarily on microglia, the support and immune cells of the brain and spinal cord. CB2 receptors are also prevalent in the gastrointestinal tract and bone. Stimulation of CB2 receptors by endocannabinoids and by marijuana’s phytocannabinoids, especially cannabidiol (“CBD”), appears to down-regulate both the immune system and pain receptors. Endocannabinoids also help to maintain bone mass, preventing osteoporosis.

It is likely that such down-regulated CB2 receptor activity in pain receptors, the immune system, and the gut explains the observed effectiveness of marijuana in reducing inflammation and pain, especially in inflammatory bowel diseases like Crohn’s Disease and ulcerative colitis, and in neuropathic pain, pain due to disorders of pain receptors. Effects on microglial cells may explain not just the palliative (symptom reduction) effects of marijuana, but also the curative effects observed by some researchers in Alzheimer’s Disease, multiple sclerosis, and a particularly aggressive type of brain cancer, glioblastoma multiforme. Researchers have observed that cannabinoids reduce the hallmark amyloid deposition and neurofibrillatory tangles of Alzheimer’s Disease, the demyelination of multiple sclerosis, and numerous types of cancers.

Future developments

As the term “non-CB1/non-CB2 receptors” implies, there are a variety of other receptors that remain to be characterized and their roles elucidated. And so there are…

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