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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2021, 02:57:07 PM »
Quote from: Matthew on December 31, 2021, 02:40:00 PM
… it is still QUITE controversial in Catholic circles…

The relevant moral theology is not controversial.

Only weighting the risk/benefits is "controversial," though less controversial by the day.

I am quite happy to let Meg and Tradman be teetotalers of both MJ and alcohol (gotta be consistent!) and I will pray for the rescue of their "pothead" loved ones.
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Offline Meg

Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
« Reply #26 on: December 31, 2021, 03:12:46 PM »
Quote from: Mark 79 on December 31, 2021, 02:57:07 PM
The relevant moral theology is not controversial.

Only weighting the risk/benefits is "controversial," though less controversial by the day.

I am quite happy to let Meg and Tradman be teetotalers of both MJ and alcohol (gotta be consistent!) and I will pray for the rescue of their "pothead" loved ones.

I'm not a teetotaler. It's not really a Catholic thing to be.

If I recall correctly, it was Fr. Crane (whom some here don't like, and I understand why) who gave a good comparison, in a sermon, of alcohol and marijuana. Alcohol is used for several reasons. However, it is considered appropriate, by the Church, to use alcohol in moderation. Getting so drunk as to lose control of one's senses is a mortal sin. Getting slightly drunk is a venial sin. However, alcohol if used to just relax is fine. Pot, on the other hand (as Fr. Crane said) is used mainly to get high.

Of course there are medical reasons for using pot, but that excuse is over-used today in order to justify its use, in my opinion. I expect that your opinion, Mark, will be different. That's okay. 
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Offline roscoe

Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2021, 04:03:51 PM »
Quote from: Tradman on December 31, 2021, 01:21:11 PM
Although this is off topic, it seems there are contradictory views for many reasons:

Recreational use of Marijuana


1. Opens the soul to demonic influence.
2. Weakens moral judgement
3. Promotes immorality
4. Fosters narcissism
5. Leads to moral pessimism
6. Is socially and morally divisive
7. Promotes laziness toward Catholic works
8. Promotes disobedience to priests and the Church
9. Promotes disobedience to secular authority
10.  Is a safety issue for children who's parents use.
11. Causes neglect, and abuse of children by parents who use
12. Dulls sense of guilt and is counter to Sacrament of Confession
13. Profanes the reception of the Eucharist
14. Is falsely equated with moderate use of alcohol
15. Often leads to use of other drugs
16. Promotes secrecy and leads to animosity
17. Promotes other crime
18. Often destroys relationships
19. Impedes the desire to attain heaven
20. Leads to a liberal and worldly mindset
21. Retards emotions
22. Wastes opportunities for good
23 Impedes Christ's mandate to evangelize
24 Denies Scripture's command to stay sober
25 Denies the modest conduct of Our Lady
26 Leads to the unforgivable sin of despair
27 Is often its own object of worship
28. Causes certain kinds of brain damage
29. Often leads to other addictions
30. Inhibits holiness
31. Is well founded in paganism, abhorred in Christendom
32. Is proven by all the above to be a "sacrament" of the diabolic
 
This list is by no means exhaustive, barely even scratches the surface. After it exceeded 21, I figured this was enough to get the picture.  If anyone disagrees, present your argument.  Whatever you do, don't smoke weed, rather, do penance for the salvation of souls. 

The above is a personal opinion & does not come from any legal Church Authority. Can MJ be abused?-- of course.. :popcorn:
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Offline Matthew

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Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2021, 04:15:37 PM »
Quote from: Mark 79 on December 31, 2021, 02:57:07 PM
The relevant moral theology is not controversial.

Only weighting the risk/benefits is "controversial," though less controversial by the day.


Perhaps.

But let's be honest -- if it came out that a prominent Traditional priest or bishop regularly "partook" of "the herb" there would be a ****storm on the interwebz, and you know it.

The jury is definitely out on this one.
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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Marijuana use sinful for Catholics?
« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2021, 04:17:12 PM »
Quote from: Meg on December 31, 2021, 03:12:46 PM
I'm not a teetotaler. It's not really a Catholic thing to be.

If I recall correctly, it was Fr. Crane (whom some here don't like, and I understand why) … then why mention him as though he is an authority on anything?

What is "slightly drunk"? Is it sinful to be giggly? ebullient? relaxed?

Recreational MJ should be judged by the same moral standard as alcohol, not by some selective subjective sour-faced irrational emotional prejudice.

This one is so qualified as to be amusing: 


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Of course there are medical reasons for using pot, but that excuse is over-used today in order to justify its use, in my opinion



Let's parse it while trying to avoid laughing.

"Of course there are medical reasons for using pot…" • Suddenly "of course" there is medical reason. Gee, an actual fact recognized. Progress.

"…but that excuse is over-used today…" • How the dickens do you know that? Can you read hearts, minds, and souls? Bilocate! Right now!

"in order to justify its use…" • Again doubling down on your charism and saintly perspicacity. You not only know that it is "over-used," but also can read a person's interior disposition as the intent to "justify" its use. Seriously, bilocate! Right now!

"…in my opinion." Ahhhh… you have a baseless opinion. Shocking, I say, simply shocking.
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