[Marion]

The video feed on these SpaceX drone ships repeatedly cut out when the Falcon 9 Stage 1 booster lands, this is nothing new. May look sketchy if you want, but is not suspicious per se, because these things do land, there's lot's of intact footage of that:

A crane could be helping.

[Ladislaus]

Some of the SpaceX landings looked kindof preposterous.  I watched one where it wasn't cut off and it kindof looked ridiculous to me the way it magically re-aligned itself all on its own .. in mid-air.  Looked like a bad sci-fi movie.

Anyway, I know that the Dragon footage of the "4 amateurs" was fake. They tweeted out the "view of earth from Dragon" picture, and it looked like a little round blue ball.  I went to Google Earth and put the camera about the height they went to, and you could basically only see Northeast Ohio in the view, not a small ball earth.  So we know that tweet was totally fake.

I believe the Tesla in space was fake also.  There's lots of people who have taken that one apart.  Even Musk admitted that it looked so fake it had to be real, that we have better CGI than that.

So, when Shatner landed, that thing hit the ground extremely hard, and I was thinking that I don't see how they didn't all break their backs.  Normally you land in water.  They claim they have some cushioning thing built in, but I don't know about that.

At this point, they lie so much that I'd have to see it in person to believe it, and even then wonder if it wasn't a hologram.

[Viva Cristo Rey]

LOL. I have not heard their 12 Days in a long time. And as for the price of back bacon? I am terrified to look...there was a loss of over 12 000 hogs in the recent BC flooding. Back bacon in Canada now will be like gold. We had pork chops for dinner last night, but they were from take-out, so I don't know what pork is going for in the grocery stores these days.

How about Corner Gas? Red Green? Or back to the theme of space--Chris Hadfield playing with his guitar "in space?" In a weird twist, I met his sister. Nice lady. I wasn't really interested in the topic either, but it came out they were related. The others around were more interested in this fact than I was though. Someone "famous" could probably walk right past me on the street and I would be oblivious 90% of the time. Meeting an astronaut wouldn't be on a high priority list for me at all. I would rather meet the architect that built the building and discuss the construction methods. (I'm weird. Not even my husband has figured me out yet, and I don't think he ever will, poor man).  

Be careful.  Most pork is coming in from China.  I was shocked that chicken and pork was coming into Ireland from China.   That is insane and gross.   

[Viva Cristo Rey]

Another thing I was upset with Trump was creating Space Force instead of Grace Force.    People around the world  are struggling to survive while the elite blow tax payer money on their pet projects.  To me all of this is non essential.  Most of these labs should be shut down and space projects should be shut down. People need to get a real job.  Same with the green scam of windmills and solar energy, electric cars.  This what they snuck in during lock downs was to sneak in 5 g.  I used to watch Star Trek, Lost in space as entertainment which I could been doing something more constructive.  These people are nuts.

[bodeens]

So, when Shatner landed, that thing hit the ground extremely hard, and I was thinking that I don't see how they didn't all break their backs.  Normally you land in water.  They claim they have some cushioning thing built in, but I don't know about that.

At this point, they lie so much that I'd have to see it in person to believe it, and even then wonder if it wasn't a hologram.

I strongly believe they are already doing Blue Beam ops in remote locations :
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/151020-city-sky-china-mirage-fata-morgana-weather-atmosphere

Why would the buildings appear right side up? With 5G the intention is to somehow create holograms we can feel, the military in 2019 already created lasers we can hear https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2019/07/19/pentagon-scientists-are-making-talking-plasma-laser-balls-for-use-as-non-lethal-weapons/  You have to remember all of this is on the heels of the so-called "Voice of Allah" tech the military was using to create battlefield holograms and hallucinations to test on MENA insurgents.

[Kazimierz]

"The Final Frontier is made in a Hollywood basement"

Heard this song lyric a while back. Very relevant indeed.

Then there is "Virtual Insanity" which was referenced in one of my searches sometime ago on the topic. Found and watched the video. Prophetic to a degree.

[Dankward]

A crane could be helping.

It's not a crane.

[Marion]

It's not a crane.

Ok, assuming the images are true.

I find it hard to believe that they need a few short "burn"s only to get the tank down again. My first assumption is: breaking downwards needs as much fuel as accelerating upwards. Then discount air friction which obstructs upwards and helps downwards. Then discount weight. Less rocket downward, less fuel downward. But still they seem to need virtually no fuel at all (compared to upwards) for breaking.

[Dankward]

Ok, assuming the images are true.

I find it hard to believe that they need a few short "burn"s only to get the tank down again. My first assumption is: breaking downwards needs as much fuel as accelerating upwards. Then discount air friction which obstructs upwards and helps downwards. Then discount weight. Less rocket downward, less fuel downward. But still they seem to need virtually no fuel at all (compared to upwards) for breaking.

Hard to believe? You can watch full length streams of Falcon 9 rockets launching and boosters landing again if you want, no need to believe.

There's another one coming up today, actually: https://twitter.com/SpaceX

Only the booster stage is coming back down, carrying way less weight due to stage 1 and stage 2 being disconnected already and way less fuel in the tanks, so it's rather easy for these powerful engines to brake the rocket. Air friction works the same both ways. It's exponentially easier to produce the necessary deltaV (and thus fuel used) the less mass your rocket has.

[Marion]

Hard to believe? You can watch full length streams of Falcon 9 rockets launching and boosters landing again if you want, no need to believe.

There's another one coming up today, actually: https://twitter.com/SpaceX

A video doesn't prove anything. It could be fake.

Only the booster stage is coming back down, carrying way less weight due to stage 1 and stage 2 being disconnected already and way less fuel in the tanks, so it's rather easy for these powerful engines to brake the rocket. Air friction works the same both ways. It's exponentially easier to produce the necessary deltaV (and thus fuel used) the less mass your rocket has.

It's obvious that you need double fuel for two rockets. So it's linearly harder to handle more mass, linearly easier to handle less mass. Or am I missing something?

[cassini]

Does this help solve the problem of moon landing?

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32581790

[Ladislaus]

Hard to believe? You can watch full length streams of Falcon 9 rockets launching and boosters landing again if you want, no need to believe.

This subject is entirely irrelevant to the question of Flat Earth.  But, regarless, there's been so much fakery from the space agencies, SpaceX, etc. that I'd have to watch it in person and then, after it landed, go up to it and touch it.  Whether this rocket is fake, I can't say for sure, but I'm certainly not taking SpaceX's word for it after they've been caught faking other stuff.

[bodeens]

This subject is entirely irrelevant to the question of Flat Earth.  But, regarless, there's been so much fakery from the space agencies, SpaceX, etc. that I'd have to watch it in person and then, after it landed, go up to it and touch it.  Whether this rocket is fake, I can't say for sure, but I'm certainly not taking SpaceX's word for it after they've been caught faking other stuff.

It isn't entirely irrelevant per se (I think some points that could be made require the nature or the non-nature of space to be discussed) but I think this thread is just focusing on space rather than Flat Earth. Unfortunately there are 3+ FE debate threads going nowhere, this is just focusing on space being the ultimate platform for fαℓѕє fℓαgs and fake happenings. I think the line in the sand as a sanity check is the Moon landings. I am a globetard (reluctantly but it is entirely from independent astronomy rather than others' arguments) and think they were 100% fake. Do any of the multiple Round Earthers in this thread think they are real? If so, why?

[Dankward]

This subject is entirely irrelevant to the question of Flat Earth.  But, regarless, there's been so much fakery from the space agencies, SpaceX, etc. that I'd have to watch it in person and then, after it landed, go up to it and touch it.  Whether this rocket is fake, I can't say for sure, but I'm certainly not taking SpaceX's word for it after they've been caught faking other stuff.

Oh, I thought we were discussing still discussing what the thread title says - "In This Thread: Fake Space Footage".

NASA and their russian counterparts (especially back in the day) have been caught lying many times for sure. All the other agencies with less ambitious undertakings not so much. I also don't know any prominent cases where SpaceX as a private company has been caught lying. E.g. there were valid explanations for the supposed fakery/glitches of the Tesla in space etc.

You don't only believe things that you have experienced or touched first hand, I'm sure Ladislaus. But fine, I'm not the one to convince you that all of these thousands of rockets that are being launched since centuries are not fake.

[Dankward]

And people please, tone down on the downvote brigades - seemingly everyone who might be a globe Earther and doesn't share the same views is downvoted to oblivion (a two-downvote oblivion, but still funny). Regardless of the post content, even if it's completely non-controversial. So it's not about content but about downvoting.


"You get a downvote, you get a downvote, everyone gets a downvote!"