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« on: October 07, 2011, 12:18:10 PM »
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  • Bread Winner...
    A physician in the emergency room told the story of a woman in her 20's coming to the ER with her 8th pregnancy. She stated, "My momma told me that
     I am the breadwinner for the family."
     
    He asked her to explain. She said that she can make babies and babies get money for the family. It goes like this: The grandma calls the Department of Child and Family Services and states that the unemployed daughter is not capable of caring for these children. DCFS agrees and states that the child or children will need to go to foster care.

    The grandma then volunteers to be the foster parent, and thus receives a check for $1500 per child per month in Illinois .
     
    Total yearly income:
    $144,000 tax-free,
    not to mention free healthcare (Medicaid) plus a monthly card entitling her to free groceries, etc, and a voucher for 250 free cell phone minutes per month. This does not even include WIC and other welfare programs..
     
    Indeed, grandma was correct in that her fertile daughter is the "breadwinner" for the family.

    This is how the ruling class spends our tax dollars.

    Sebastian J. Ciancio, M.D. Urologist, Danville Polyclinic, LTD
     
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    Don't forget to pay your taxes!!!
    There are a lot of “Breadwinners” depending on you and me.
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    « Reply #1 on: October 07, 2011, 01:37:12 PM »
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  • I believe this to be fairly true.  Years ago, I knew two families who did this.  Also in my own family, my cousin is 47.  She has 3 children of her own.  Her oldest daughter is 29.  This daughter has 4 children.  The oldest child is 12.  In 2005, my cousin and her husband who is retired from the Navy (gets a check), went to get them and became foster parents.  They get $1000 per month for each child.   From government paychecks alone my cousin and her husband get $5700 each month.   Not including all their free healthcare, they receive 68K a year from the government.



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    « Reply #2 on: October 07, 2011, 04:48:42 PM »
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  • You know...

    I was shocked when I discovered just two or three years ago that "foster parents" get paid.  I had always thought that they "volunteered" to be foster parents and that they were taking upon themselves a great sacrifice.  When the subject came up during a discussion at Church one Sunday after Mass and someone mentioned how much foster parents are paid for their services, I was dumbfounded.

    Now I did think that they received some assistance to help provide for some of the additional food and expenses, the amount they are paid (I don't remember how much I was told) is clearly a "for-profit" concern.  The "public interest" commercials always encourage people to "volunteer" to be foster parents.  I bet if they came right out and told people how much tax-free income they could earn, they'd have as many "volunteers" for foster parenting as Wal-Mart has "volunteer" cashiers.

    Thus, I was underwhelmed when all the "conservative" commentators praised Michelle Bauchman for having, over the years, a very large number of "foster children".

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    « Reply #3 on: October 07, 2011, 05:44:38 PM »
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  • Quote from: TKGS
    I was shocked when I discovered just two or three years ago that "foster parents" get paid.


    Isn't it also the case that they get paid a lot more with having disabled children?
    2 Corinthians 4:3-4

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    « Reply #4 on: October 07, 2011, 06:51:23 PM »
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  • I hate to be Debbie Downer here. But it is very common to have professional foster care providers, generally speaking those not within a family unit. I think that this is acceptable. The children would otherwise languish in a group home awaiting someone to adopt them or while perhaps waiting for the court to resolve the issue of the parents and who cares for them.  Because these people are doing it for the purpose of money is perfectly fine, why? Well, anyone that actually tells you that they aren't doing it for the money is lying. Some of these foster children truly require work to care for them. And this type of myth that foster parents make hand over fist in cash is not true. The poster states Illinois pays $1500/mo. That is NOT correct. It is depending on age; average per month is $410/mo! So people vilifying people that are foster care providers because they take money to raise these children are wrong and having knee jerk reactions.

    Furthermore to continue in enlightening people regarding this errorenous post a grandmother who fosters her grandchildren is called a "relative home care giver". Doesn't matter if she's licensed or not, she will get about 265, maybe 300/mo per child. I can promise that it sure takes more than that to even provide basic necessities to any age child even if food and medical is supplied. Now this is for a perfectly healthy child. No state will allow multiple children, this poster says 8. Let me tell you it ain't happening. In fact I will bet my bottom dollar that I have that there is no such case in Illinois or even any other state. For someone to bring in $1500/mo based on the rate of pay they'd have to have 10 children!! These other benefits? Yes, Illinois does give free medical care (so what?!) and they would more than likely qualify for food stamps. For a family of 9, grandma and the kids they get a whopping $1300 or so a month! That can not go far with such a large family in Illinois. (Were not discussing trad families they go into this eyes wide open and with the grace of God with the unity of their marriage and it's blessings).

    I can guess that there may be some very special circumstances where a foster care provider may bring in more money and that would soley be due to a very special needs child. Perhaps one that is on a ventilator, quadriplegic, something that is a severe case. And frankly it wouldn't be a enough money for the amount of time that someone puts in 24/7. I think it would be upwards to perhaps an astounding $18.00 A DAY! Maybe even $20/day the horror of those money grubbing evil people!

    So---nope. I don't buy this post and I think perhaps in the future prior to posting such absolutely lies (which is not the fault of the poster, Matthew) exercise a bit of due diligence.

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    « Reply #5 on: October 07, 2011, 07:39:28 PM »
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    You know...

    I was shocked when I discovered just two or three years ago that "foster parents" get paid.  I had always thought that they "volunteered" to be foster parents and that they were taking upon themselves a great sacrifice.  When the subject came up during a discussion at Church one Sunday after Mass and someone mentioned how much foster parents are paid for their services, I was dumbfounded.

    Now I did think that they received some assistance to help provide for some of the additional food and expenses, the amount they are paid (I don't remember how much I was told) is clearly a "for-profit" concern.  The "public interest" commercials always encourage people to "volunteer" to be foster parents.  I bet if they came right out and told people how much tax-free income they could earn, they'd have as many "volunteers" for foster parenting as Wal-Mart has "volunteer" cashiers.

    Thus, I was underwhelmed when all the "conservative" commentators praised Michelle Bauchman for having, over the years, a very large number of "foster children".


    I am sorry, but you are completely clueless here.  Foster parenting is a job, for one thing. They are not volunteers. There are licensing and continuing education requirements.  There are professional standards to meet.  They have supervisors to whom they are accountable, both through the county and through their agency if they work for a private foster care network.

    In addition, therapeutic foster parents agree to take on kids with severe mental heath problems, behavioral problems, or severe health problems.  The suggestion that they are (generally or even frequently) motivated by the money is either ignorant or malicious.  Have you opened your home to an alcohol-addicted infant, a five year old with AIDS, or an eight year old who can't be left alone with younger children because he acts out his own history of sexual abuse?  Or maybe a teenage mother with a baby in tow? Or perhaps a suicidal adolescent or a ten old with a catastrophic disability who needs total care?  Foster parents do this every day.  They do more for the Kingdom of God before breakfast than most of us do in a month.  They also prevent more abortions than many  a "pro-life activist" by providing real people with real alternatives.  

    Foster parents are heroes, underpaid at any price, not grifters.

    I think Michelle Bachman is a political incompetent.  However, she is a wealthy incompetent.  She had no need to take in foster kids for the money.  Suggesting otherwise without proof seems something very much akin to the sin of calumny.

    Please learn actual facts before you slander people who give homes to needy kids.  
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    « Reply #6 on: October 07, 2011, 07:41:48 PM »
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    I hate to be Debbie Downer here. But it is very common to have professional foster care providers, generally speaking those not within a family unit. I think that this is acceptable. The children would otherwise languish in a group home awaiting someone to adopt them or while perhaps waiting for the court to resolve the issue of the parents and who cares for them.  Because these people are doing it for the purpose of money is perfectly fine, why? Well, anyone that actually tells you that they aren't doing it for the money is lying. Some of these foster children truly require work to care for them. And this type of myth that foster parents make hand over fist in cash is not true. The poster states Illinois pays $1500/mo. That is NOT correct. It is depending on age; average per month is $410/mo! So people vilifying people that are foster care providers because they take money to raise these children are wrong and having knee jerk reactions.

    Furthermore to continue in enlightening people regarding this errorenous post a grandmother who fosters her grandchildren is called a "relative home care giver". Doesn't matter if she's licensed or not, she will get about 265, maybe 300/mo per child. I can promise that it sure takes more than that to even provide basic necessities to any age child even if food and medical is supplied. Now this is for a perfectly healthy child. No state will allow multiple children, this poster says 8. Let me tell you it ain't happening. In fact I will bet my bottom dollar that I have that there is no such case in Illinois or even any other state. For someone to bring in $1500/mo based on the rate of pay they'd have to have 10 children!! These other benefits? Yes, Illinois does give free medical care (so what?!) and they would more than likely qualify for food stamps. For a family of 9, grandma and the kids they get a whopping $1300 or so a month! That can not go far with such a large family in Illinois. (Were not discussing trad families they go into this eyes wide open and with the grace of God with the unity of their marriage and it's blessings).

    I can guess that there may be some very special circumstances where a foster care provider may bring in more money and that would soley be due to a very special needs child. Perhaps one that is on a ventilator, quadriplegic, something that is a severe case. And frankly it wouldn't be a enough money for the amount of time that someone puts in 24/7. I think it would be upwards to perhaps an astounding $18.00 A DAY! Maybe even $20/day the horror of those money grubbing evil people!

    So---nope. I don't buy this post and I think perhaps in the future prior to posting such absolutely lies (which is not the fault of the poster, Matthew) exercise a bit of due diligence.

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    There is no reason whatsoever that I or anyone else should pay someone else to look after someone else's children. I'm sure someone has preyed upon your woman frailties to think that this is acceptable, but it only goes to show why women should not be in charge of government in any shape or form.

    There are SSPX families that support 10 children with a total yearly income of 25K, yet you claim these foster parents should be paid per child to support the children they are supposedly 'volunteering' to care for.

    From a Catholic Point of view, and we are Catholic here, Any money given to the government in taxes does not obtain grace for the individual who gave it, no matter what it is ultamately used for. If on the other hand, someone voluntarily and directly gave some money to help out a foster parent that would entain graces of charity. On the other side, by virtue of earning income to care for the children the foster parents themselves are but government employees and obtain no graces.

    If someone wishes to care for the needy I applaud them, if they want me to pay them to do it I do not.

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    « Reply #7 on: October 07, 2011, 08:25:31 PM »
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  • There are many uses of my tax dollars that annoy me.   Financial support to people who care for needy kids is not one of them.  Would you rather their mothers aborted them?  What is going to happen to these kids without foster parents?
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #8 on: October 07, 2011, 08:51:23 PM »
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    There are many uses of my tax dollars that annoy me.   Financial support to people who care for needy kids is not one of them.  Would you rather their mothers aborted them?  What is going to happen to these kids without foster parents?


    BS argument, it is not my responsibility to care for their kids, nor is it the governments realm. If you organize a church run foster program or orphanage I'll put my money into the plate, that is true charity with true graces.

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    « Reply #9 on: October 07, 2011, 08:53:52 PM »
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  • I should also point out that if they are not teaching the true faith then they have ultimately accomplished nothing. The salvation of souls is the most important aspect of bringing up a child. You would have them brought up by secularists with government money telling them how to raise a good little slave instead of leaving it to the realm of charity and the church who could foster not just life, house and food, but also spirtual wealth aswell.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 07, 2011, 09:39:41 PM »
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    There are many uses of my tax dollars that annoy me.   Financial support to people who care for needy kids is not one of them.  Would you rather their mothers aborted them?  What is going to happen to these kids without foster parents?


    BS argument, it is not my responsibility to care for their kids, nor is it the governments realm. If you organize a church run foster program or orphanage I'll put my money into the plate, that is true charity with true graces.


    So, you are not your brother's keeper?  Well, throw in your lot with Cain if you wish.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #11 on: October 07, 2011, 11:37:34 PM »
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    There are many uses of my tax dollars that annoy me.   Financial support to people who care for needy kids is not one of them.  Would you rather their mothers aborted them?  What is going to happen to these kids without foster parents?


    BS argument, it is not my responsibility to care for their kids, nor is it the governments realm. If you organize a church run foster program or orphanage I'll put my money into the plate, that is true charity with true graces.


    So, you are not your brother's keeper?  Well, throw in your lot with Cain if you wish.


    WTF did you just say?

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    « Reply #12 on: October 08, 2011, 04:01:08 AM »
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    So, you are not your brother's keeper?  Well, throw in your lot with Cain if you wish.


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    « Reply #13 on: October 08, 2011, 09:43:15 AM »
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    There are many uses of my tax dollars that annoy me.   Financial support to people who care for needy kids is not one of them.  Would you rather their mothers aborted them?  What is going to happen to these kids without foster parents?


    BS argument, it is not my responsibility to care for their kids, nor is it the governments realm. If you organize a church run foster program or orphanage I'll put my money into the plate, that is true charity with true graces.


    So, you are not your brother's keeper?  Well, throw in your lot with Cain if you wish.


    WTF did you just say?


    I thought I was clear.  If you are offended, you understood me just fine.
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    « Reply #14 on: October 08, 2011, 09:49:49 AM »
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    There is no reason whatsoever that I or anyone else should pay someone else to look after someone else's children. I'm sure someone has preyed upon your woman frailties to think that this is acceptable, but it only goes to show why women should not be in charge of government in any shape or form.

    There are SSPX families that support 10 children with a total yearly income of 25K, yet you claim these foster parents should be paid per child to support the children they are supposedly 'volunteering' to care for.

    From a Catholic Point of view, and we are Catholic here, Any money given to the government in taxes does not obtain grace for the individual who gave it, no matter what it is ultamately used for. If on the other hand, someone voluntarily and directly gave some money to help out a foster parent that would entain graces of charity. On the other side, by virtue of earning income to care for the children the foster parents themselves are but government employees and obtain no graces.

    If someone wishes to care for the needy I applaud them, if they want me to pay them to do it I do not.[/quote]

    If you feel this strongly, then next few months I expect you post that you have in your home several children within the foster system in your state. Oh, we'll make it easy on you and just expect one. I'll be on the look-out.

    You have no idea what you're talking about. You enspouse the SSPX and their families. We're not discussing that. If you read what I wrote you notice that I wasn't discussing trad families that are given graces by God because of the marital union. These are children who are born and have some issue that is in their life that make it severe enough for a state to intervene. From a Catholic standpoint, there are and have been many orphanages in it's history. Don Bosco had his Oratory and Boys Home. No, he didn't get a salary but he did expect the community to assist when it was possible. And guess what, the government in this instance is acting as a community in taking care of children as we no longer have much (if any) of the social structure from the mid, late 1800's. I happily cough up my taxes for THIS service than some asinine program that is worthless. This is worthy.

    I suppose then that when a child is in need and none of us are aware of these not have the government step in this instance and let these children run around like beggars for food, shelter, medical care for themselves?

    Again, will be looking for your post of you having at least one foster child. And we'll hear about how you can provide food, clothes, bedding, a bed, get them to school, to their doctor appointments all without any assistance. I'm sure you'll do just fine.

     

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