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Offline Ladislaus

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AI and Ouija
« on: November 08, 2023, 06:35:53 PM »
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  • I was mocked by some for suggesting similarities between interaction with AI and the use of Ouija boards.

    Here we go ...
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/11/05/selling-their-souls-hasbro-offered-ai-powered-virtual-ouija-board-for-halloween/

    Offline Kazimierz

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    Re: AI and Ouija
    « Reply #1 on: November 08, 2023, 06:43:30 PM »
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  • I was mocked by some for suggesting similarities between interaction with AI and the use of Ouija boards.

    Here we go ...
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/11/05/selling-their-souls-hasbro-offered-ai-powered-virtual-ouija-board-for-halloween/
    Tis something you should have not been mocked upon as the danger of evolving technology combined with the ongoing surgence of the occult gives Hell and its minions more opportunities to infest, obsess and possess pour souls. The Abyss stares back. Or, looking into our world's version of the Palantiri is a one way ticket to infernal pain.

    O perfidious New World, and its collective masses who sit on their collectives asses, with minds like molasses, and souls black as pitch in the deep crevasses.
    Da pacem Domine in diebus nostris
    Qui non est alius
    Qui pugnet pro nobis
    Nisi  tu Deus noster


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: AI and Ouija
    « Reply #2 on: November 09, 2023, 06:31:03 AM »
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  • So, the reason that Ouija boards create openings for occult activity is that individuals are attempting to interact with what they perceive to be some intelligence on the other side.  Even apart from Hasbro's explicit AI Ouija, there's a danger inherent in AI of people behaving as if they're interacting with some intelligence on the other side of that keyboard, and that leaves an opening for diabolical activity.  Now, most of us programmers know that AI is a gimmick, just the product of some very sophisticated programming and making use of the massive computing resources available to us these days for relatively cheap.  Just think that a current Apple Watch has many orders of magnitude the computing power used by the Apollo "moon" missions.

    In any case, when people sit down and think they're interacting with something on the other side of the keyboard that's intelligent ... something intelligent may actually show up.  There have been stories where AI persuaded people to commit ѕυιcιdє, and there's absolutely nothing whatsoever to prevent demonic forces from becoming involved in controlling AI.  In fact, I've long thought that the entire AI movement (there is and cannot be any such thing as real AI) was just a cover for Satan.

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    Re: AI and Ouija
    « Reply #3 on: November 09, 2023, 10:33:29 AM »
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  • For those who HAVEN'T studied Thomistic philosophy --

    It's metaphysically impossible for a creature 100% of the physical/material order to "rise above it" and grasp immaterial things such as concepts. Which, by the way, is the DEFINITION of "intelligence". Intus legere: to read that which is within, the spiritual, immaterial CONCEPT under the physical appearance. Not just this physical chair here, but what a chair IS. What chair-ness is. Animals and software will never have that, since they are 100% physical and don't even have ONE foot in the spiritual realm, as we humans do.

    Humans are the only creature *that is in any way PART OF the material order* which also has an immaterial component: the soul. Angels are not material at all, but they are 100% spiritual. Angels don't reason (step by step) or ratiocinate but they are the only other intelligent beings God created. Angelic intelligence actually works much faster -- instantly reaching any conclusions -- which is why the bad angels didn't get time to repent after their rebellion against God. Any decision an angel makes is forever. Their minds aren't cloudy, slow, and full of doubt as a human's mind is. They are all sharp, as it were. They can look at an ethernet cable, see the magnetic fields caused by the electricity flowing through it, and instantly know what data is passing through it. They could even crack the most secure of encryption protocols -- in their head, in realtime! The most complex calculus known to man is like "2+2" to an angel.

    Imagine playing a video game until one of the characters steps out of the screen and joins you in the real world. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. IMPOSSIBLE. You exist on two different orders of being. The video game character only "exists" as 1s and 0's in a RAM chip. My garage is not going to come to life, not even after a quadrillion quadrillion years. Never means never. Metaphysically impossible.

    It's a testament to how low mankind has fallen, that MANY MEN TODAY including Elon Musk think that mankind is going to accidentally create a god -- who will then destroy us all. Sorry, you can't create something greater than yourself. Ever heard of "Nemo dat qui non habet"? No one gives what he doesn't have.

    Every effect must have a proportionate cause. Passing gas can't have the result of toppling a huge skyscraper. The cause just isn't sufficient to justify that effect. Unless you've been eating LOTS of Taco Bell, but you know what I mean.
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    Re: AI and Ouija
    « Reply #4 on: November 09, 2023, 11:04:34 AM »
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  • Great summary, Matthew.  Really the best software can do is to simulate the BEHAVIOR of an intelligent being ... with a certain amount of randomization thrown in there, and potentially some "learning" where the behavior gets less randomized according to previous patterns.  Nor can there be any consciousness or self-awareness.  As you point out, the immaterial cannot be the product of material causes, as the lesser cannot cause the greater, no matter how much of the lesser you have.


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    Re: AI and Ouija
    « Reply #5 on: November 10, 2023, 11:26:02 PM »
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  • Every effect must have a proportionate cause. Passing gas can't have the result of toppling a huge skyscraper. The cause just isn't sufficient to justify that effect. Unless you've been eating LOTS of Taco Bell, but you know what I mean.
    The sheeple have missed the real issue. They’re been trained to believe unreality is true.  “Never mind the man behind the curtain...”. 

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    Re: AI and Ouija
    « Reply #6 on: November 11, 2023, 01:04:52 AM »
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  • I was mocked by some for suggesting similarities between interaction with AI and the use of Ouija boards.

    Here we go ...
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/11/05/selling-their-souls-hasbro-offered-ai-powered-virtual-ouija-board-for-halloween/
    There is No actual evidence A Brietbart is dead The assistant coroner-- who wouldnt go along w/ the hoax-- is dead... :cowboy:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'