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What did Pope Benedict XVI mean?
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 08:49:00 PM »
Quote from: daegus
both ways of reading the text would be true.


How can the number 1 be "1" and "NOT 1" at the same time?

The Jew who does not have his spiritual eyes opened by God the Holy Spirit so that he can see Christ revealed in the Scriptures is as in the dark as a blind man at midnight. Ditto for anyone else on earth.

The absolute garbage of 'Jews can read their half of Sacred Scripture, repudiate Christ and refuse to acknowledge Him and still be right with God' is not only sickening, it is infuriating.

"Whosoever denies Me before men, the same will I deny before My Father."

Sound familiar?

Acknowledge Christ --> Join His Church --> Receive His Sacraments --> persevere in faith --> die in grace --> receive eternal life.

DENY Christ --> do whatever else you want --> die a 'good person', yet still an infidel --> SPEND AN ETERNITY IN HELL.

Plain and simple, and not a single other source but Sacred Scripture is needed to make the case.

Add the testimony of the Magisterium of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, and the case is doubly closed.

All the modernist/liberal ecuмenical whining from these heretics notwithstanding, those who do not profess Christ and flee to the security of His Church are in danger of Hell.

What did Pope Benedict XVI mean?
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2011, 12:42:51 AM »
I keep seeing and hearing the word, "dialogue". Honestly, it makes me cringe. Not really sure why. Maybe it's that the Church is to proclaim the gospel. I don't know.

I've seen it alot on CAF and heard it quite a bit on ewtn and the catholic satellite radio programs. Dialogue. I don't think that's a word that the Church should be using. Not sure why, other than it seems really out of place when I hear it.

Dialogue. It really seems more like a word which belongs to the political arena. I seem to hear it an awful lot from the lips of politicians. Seems strange to see it coming from a Pope, imo.


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What did Pope Benedict XVI mean?
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2011, 01:04:52 AM »
Benedict XVI, God and the World, 2000, p. 209:

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It is of course possible to read the Old Testament so that it is not directed toward Christ; it does not point quite unequivocally to Christ.  And if Jews cannot see the promises as being fulfilled in him, this is not just ill will on their part, but genuinely because of the obscurity of the texts…  There are perfectly good reasons, then, for denying that the Old Testament refers to Christ and for saying, No, that is not what he said.  And there are also good reasons for referring it to him – that is what the dispute between Jews and Christians is about.”


2 Corinthians 3:12-16

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Having therefore such hope, we use much confidence: And not as Moses put a veil upon his face, that the children of Israel might not steadfastly look on the face of that which is made void. But their senses were made dull. For, until this present day, the selfsame veil, in the reading of the old testament, remaineth not taken away (because in Christ it is made void). But even until this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart.

But when they shall be converted to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.


Haydock Commentary:

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Ver. 14-15. But the senses and minds of the Jews have been dulled, hardened, and blinded, so that to this day we may say the veil remains over their eyes and minds, and hearts; that is, the greatest part of them understand not Moses' books, prophecies, and those things that were figures of Christ. But they shall understand them, and the veil shall be taken off, when they shall be converted before the end of the world. (Witham)


Ratzinger is full of it.

What did Pope Benedict XVI mean?
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2011, 06:05:32 AM »
The Christian religion has to be purged of anything that is offensive to the 'Jєωιѕн community' and JR has this as one of his main aims in life. I am sure more than anything else, Bp. Fellay will be required to follow suit. He is going that way .....

What did Pope Benedict XVI mean?
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2011, 07:00:52 AM »
Quote from: Daegus
What Benedict XVI means is that the "Christian way" and "Jєωιѕн ways" of reading the Bible are valid ways of reading the Bible. A Jew could read the Bible and say that it does not unequivocally point to Christ whereas a Christian could read it and say the opposite and both ways of reading the text would be true. That is what he means.



Of course, you're absolutely right.  This is precisely what Benedict 16 was saying.  The fact that it contradicts both scripture and Catholic doctrine is just further evidence that Benedict 16 is not a Catholic.  He is just another figurehead of one of thousands of Protestant sects that have split from the Catholic Church and from each other over doctrinal issues during the preceding generations.

The teachings of Christ (that is, of the Catholic Church) are indeed "hard".  The fact that Benedict has left and walks with Him no more is truly sad.