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The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
« on: December 07, 2023, 05:55:36 PM »
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    Here is a letter from Bishop Castro De Mayer on the TFP (he worked with them for years):

    This letter was published in the Campos daily, La Folha de Manhà in 1991; the original text, however, is dated 1984, two years after Bishop de Castro Mayer's break with TFP. It appeared in Le Sel de la Terre, [no. 28, Spring 1999], in an article entitled, "Docuмents sur la T.F.P".

    Dear XXXXX,
    I owe a response to your grieving letter of September 24, which, as the postmark indicates, you sent me on September 25. [1991]

    In this case, I can only offer the sole advice: pray, pray much, above all the Rosary or at least the five decades of the Rosary, asking the Virgin Mother, Mediatrix of all graces, to enlighten your son and make him see that TFP is an heretical sect because, in fact, although they do not say or write it, TFP lives and behaves in accord with a principle which fundamentally undermines the truth of Christianity, that is, of the Catholic Church.

    In fact, it is de fide that Jesus Christ founded His Church------destined to maintain on earth the true worship of God and to lead souls toward eternal salvation---as an unequal society, composed of two classes: one which governs, teaches and sanctifies, composed of members of the clergy, and the other---the faithful---who receive the teaching, are governed and sanctified. This is a de fide dogma.

    St. Pius X wrote that the Church is, in its very nature, an unequal society, meaning that it comprises two orders of persons: shepherds and flocks, those who belong to the various ranks of the Hierarachy and the faithful multitude. These two orders are so completely distinct that the Hierarchy alone has the right and authority to guide and govern the members to the Church's ends, while the duty of the faithful is that of allowing themselves to be governed and to obediently follow the way given by the governing class (The Encyclical, "Vehementer", February 11, 1906) [7].

    And the entire history of the Church, as can be seen in the New Testament, attests to this truth as a fundamental dogma of the Church's constitution. It was to the Apostles only that Jesus said: “Go and teach all nations”. Too, the Acts of the Apostles show us the life of the Church in the times following Jesus Christ.

    Because of this, it is an heretical subversion to habitually follow a lay person, ---therefore, not a member of the Hierarchy--- as the spokesman of orthodoxy. Thus, they do not look to what the Church says, what the Bishops say, rather what this or that one says.... Nor does it end there: this attitude------even if not openly avowed---actually positions the "leader" as the arbiter of orthodoxy, and is accompanied by a subtle but real mistrust of the hierarchy and of the clergy in general.

    There is a visceral anticlericalism in TFP: everything that comes from the clergy is prejudicially received. Basically, it holds that all priests are ignorant, not very zealous or interesting, and have other such qualities. Well, then, keeping in mind the divine Constitution of the Church which was instituted by Jesus Christ, TFP's habitual anti-clericalism, latent, makes it an heretical sect, and therefore, as I have said, is animated by a principle contrary to the dogma established by Jesus Christ in the constitution of His Church.

    Nevertheless, TFP had a healthy beginning. There was a certain evolution of the apostolate carried out by the bi-weekly newspaper of the Marian Congregation of St. Cecelia, titled, O Legionario. As a serious and well intentioned movement, it sought to strengthen the intellectual and religious formation of the members of that Congregation and, consequently, of the bi-weekly’s readers. It was influential throughout Brazil. That was the era of [its] obedience to Monsignors Duarte and Leme.

    I accompanied and approved its apostolate, also when it began to stray into an anticlerical spirit, which began by its consolidating its position and then reversing it by putting the clergy in tow behind a charismatic layman, with his monopoly on orthodoxy. Perhaps I gave it support beyond a licit point. I retracted it only when it became clear to me that my warnings were not being taken into consideration. They had become useless.

    It is just to observe that the straying of certain members of the hierarchy, ....explains the “TFPistas'" scandal, but it doesn't justify the positions they came to take. Even less so, those of their leader, Plinio.

    At this time, as I said at the beginning of this letter, the remedy is prayer. First, because without prayer nothing is obtained: “Ask,“ Our Lord says, “and you shall receive.” It is necessary to pray, because charismatic fervor produces a certain fanaticism: individuals become incapable of seeing objective reality, of perceiving even fundamental errors, because of this inversion of following a lay person instead of the legitimate Shepherds of the Holy Church. So much more so when, as I have observed, members of the Hierarchy unfortunately and frequently utter words and take positions which any Catholic can see are dissonant from doctrine and from the guidance of the Church of the ages.....

    I ask Our Lord that he grant you, and your entire family, a holy and happy Christmas and many years filled with God's grace.

    I ask that you pray for me, Servant in Christ-Jesus,

    Antonio de Castro Mayer, Bishop Emeritus of Campos

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #1 on: December 07, 2023, 06:22:14 PM »
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  • Thank you, it is good to hear Bishop de Castro Mayer's views on TFP.
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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #2 on: December 08, 2023, 09:04:31 AM »
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  • I have been saying this for ages chap!

    Do look at my past thread on this and ping me a message so I can send you more
    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #3 on: December 08, 2023, 01:25:31 PM »
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  • I have been saying this for ages chap!

    Do look at my past thread on this and ping me a message so I can send you more

    Saying what?  That +de Castro Mayer broke from the TFP?  That's ancient history.

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #4 on: December 08, 2023, 08:24:27 PM »
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  • Saying what?  That +de Castro Mayer broke from the TFP?  That's ancient history.
    Yes, a lot of what we discuss on here is ancient history rehashed... like Vatican II, The Nine... not everyone was around when we were Lad :)


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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #5 on: December 09, 2023, 02:35:49 AM »
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  • Saying what?  That +de Castro Mayer broke from the TFP?  That's ancient history.
    That the TFP is at odds with the Traditional Faith 
    Some People call me a Radical Traditionalist but others call me Shizo.....Oh well :trollface:

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #6 on: December 09, 2023, 09:00:56 AM »
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  • Yes, a lot of what we discuss on here is ancient history rehashed... like Vatican II, The Nine... not everyone was around when we were Lad :)

    He didn't explain what he was saying "for ages" in his "I told you so" comment ... except that +de Castro Mayer broke from TFP 40 years ago.

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #7 on: December 09, 2023, 09:03:02 AM »
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  • That the TFP is at odds with the Traditional Faith

    What's left of the TFP are not at odds with the faith.  +de Castro Mayer distanced himself from them because of their anti-clerical attitude, with the Bishop himself admits is understandable given that nearly 100% of the hierarchy went along with Vatican II.  TFP in Brazil pretty much disappeared, having been replace by that splinter group, Heralds of the Gospel, but what remains of the TFP in places like the U.S. are not anti-clerical at all.


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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #8 on: December 09, 2023, 02:28:32 PM »
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  • Yes, a lot of what we discuss on here is ancient history rehashed... like Vatican II, The Nine... not everyone was around when we were Lad :)

    PV, Let me just ask... how many public Rosary rallies did the good Dom Castro lead?
    And how many public Rosaries... in his memory.. are being prayed today?

    Lay Catholic Action (LCA) has been historically suppressed by misguided Churchmen and our Catholic enemies love it.

    The Cristeros LCA's papal stand-down and their resulting slaughter, after they had the freemasonic Mexican government on their knees, is one example.


    The American LAC, Knights of Columbus, were the only ones who came to their defense.

    And Dom Castro's clerical SSPX, let me ask you, where do we see them now?
    Are they criticizing the jew anti-Pope Bergolio?

    Like pope Bergy, they went along with the death vax and they don't criticize his public heresies and sacrileges at all.
    No, the SSPX doesn't promote LCA, it is another competitor to their "We are Church" theme.

    In fact, the SSPX has a substantial $ campaign going against the TFP, as evidenced by their bribe given to the corrupt Ordinary in Quito, Ecuador in 2019.  Their purpose is to displace the TFP as caretakers of the Statue of Our Lady of Good Success and from the Conceptionist convent.



    In 2023, it's the TFP, not the SSPX that organized and materially supported over 22,000 public Rosaries across America.

    It's the TFP, not the SSPX who is criticizing Bergolio and his phoney synod.

    And it's the TFP LAC who continues to stand and fight against the revolution; for the restoration of the authentic Catholic and for the Reign of Mary.

    Viva Cristo Rey!
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #9 on: December 09, 2023, 03:25:08 PM »
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  • PV, Let me just ask... how many public Rosary rallies did the good Dom Castro lead?
    And how many public Rosaries... in his memory.. are being prayed today?

    Lay Catholic Action (LCA) has been historically suppressed by misguided Churchmen and our Catholic enemies love it.

    The Cristeros LCA's papal stand-down and their resulting slaughter, after they had the freemasonic Mexican government on their knees, is one example.


    The American LAC, Knights of Columbus, were the only ones who came to their defense.

    And Dom Castro's clerical SSPX, let me ask you, where do we see them now?
    Are they criticizing the Jєω anti-Pope Bergolio?

    Like pope Bergy, they went along with the death vax and they don't criticize his public heresies and sacrileges at all.
    No, the SSPX doesn't promote LCA, it is another competitor to their "We are Church" theme.

    In fact, the SSPX has a substantial $ campaign going against the TFP, as evidenced by their bribe given to the corrupt Ordinary in Quito, Ecuador in 2019.  Their purpose is to displace the TFP as caretakers of the Statue of Our Lady of Good Success and from the Conceptionist convent.



    In 2023, it's the TFP, not the SSPX that organized and materially supported over 22,000 public Rosaries across America.

    It's the TFP, not the SSPX who is criticizing Bergolio and his phoney synod.

    And it's the TFP LAC who continues to stand and fight against the revolution; for the restoration of the authentic Catholic and for the Reign of Mary.

    Viva Cristo Rey!

    Thanks Incredulous.
    I don't disagree with most of what you say. Lay Catholic action is extremely important, and this is no doubt where the TFP excels.
    We agree on the scandalous new orientation of the neo-SSPX.
    However, it is not true to say that they do not encourage lay Catholic action. I don't know what the situation is where you are, but in France in particular, through their massive youth movement for example (MJCF), there is very admirable activity on this front.
    The evil actions of one group doesn't make another group right. Nor do the good actions of a group guarantee their Catholicity or their correct orientation in other respects.
    I wasn't so much meaning to run down the TFP as to record the history.
    Do you disagree with Dom Antonio?

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #10 on: December 09, 2023, 05:49:29 PM »
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  • Thanks Incredulous.
    I don't disagree with most of what you say. Lay Catholic action is extremely important, and this is no doubt where the TFP excels.
    We agree on the scandalous new orientation of the neo-SSPX.
    However, it is not true to say that they do not encourage lay Catholic action. I don't know what the situation is where you are, but in France in particular, through their massive youth movement for example (MJCF), there is very admirable activity on this front.
    The evil actions of one group doesn't make another group right. Nor do the good actions of a group guarantee their Catholicity or their correct orientation in other respects.
    I wasn't so much meaning to run down the TFP as to record the history.
    Do you disagree with Dom Antonio?

    Thank you for your feedback PV!

    Of course, France is the cutting edge of the Revolution.  I'm glad to hear the French SSPX Districts support LCA.
    I can tell you, your American friends would love to hear more reports on this.

    We Americans were enthralled a few years back when hearing reports of Yellow Vests and Catholics protesting Emmanuel Macron's tyranny.




    To answer your question, in hindsight, I don't agree with Dom Antonio's assessment of the TFP.

    Several years ago, I read Dr. White's book which was used by the SSPX as a platform to denounce Dr. Plineo Correa de Oliveira for being anti-clerical. 

    Initially, I accepted his arguments, but in my later experience, neither the TFP or their break-off TIA (Tradition In Action) have shown any evidence of anti-clericalism. But rather, I've seen them treat traditional Catholic clerics with the utmost respect.



    On the other hand, I've seen traditional Catholic religious orders failing to act in public defense of the Catholic Church.
    I've seen the SSPX priors act timidly... and as St. John Chrysostom described, acting as "fearful children".

    Dr. Plineo was right.  Due to politics and obedience, we will never get the clergy to lead the battle. 

    Our Lady says the Catholic Church's battle against Babylon will last until the end of time.
    That battle will be fought by the laity.
    And of course, the laity needs the Sacraments... but not battle instructions from the clergy.


                                    TFP protesting Boston's Satanic convention April 2023
                                     
                                        (Traditional Catholic clergy were no where to be found)

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #11 on: December 10, 2023, 04:35:45 AM »
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  • I didn't mean to give the impression I am French, Incred, I'm Aussie! But I've visited a few times and had some friends in the MJCF and they are extremely apostolic, it has been a great success and brought many people into the Faith and produced many vocations. Glad to hear you have had good experiences with the TFP. Do you know which clergy they are supported by per chance? All good organised LCA should be under the supervision of the Church, it is like an extension of the mission of the Church. The Pope sends the bishops, the priests cooperate with them in their mission, and the lay folk cooperate with the priests in their turn...

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #12 on: December 10, 2023, 07:15:30 PM »
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  • I didn't mean to give the impression I am French, Incred, I'm Aussie! But I've visited a few times and had some friends in the MJCF and they are extremely apostolic, it has been a great success and brought many people into the Faith and produced many vocations. Glad to hear you have had good experiences with the TFP. Do you know which clergy they are supported by per chance? All good organised LCA should be under the supervision of the Church, it is like an extension of the mission of the Church. The Pope sends the bishops, the priests cooperate with them in their mission, and the lay folk cooperate with the priests in their turn...

    Sorry, you mentioned French LAC activities, so I was confused.

    I've noticed they have support from Indult TLM priests.  It could be FSSP or other Indult priest.  I don't think SSPX priests will come near them.  Not so sure about all the priests who support them or their Orders?   

    What I've noticed is that they criticize the Novus ordo missae and Bergolio, which didn't seem to be on their radar screen years past.

    But with all the various Church corruptions, the TFP still seems to have the support of many conservative priests resulting in a good Catholic compass to guide them.

    For example, in their Rosary Rally formats, they pray (15) Decades and all traditional Catholic prayers:

    The Angelus, The Litany of the Blessed Virgin Mary, The Divine Praises, The Prayer of Total Consecration to the Blessed Virgin by St. Maximillian Kolbe.  And the hyms they sing between at the beginning and close of the Rosary are Immaculate Mary and O' Sanctissima. They close with the traditional prayer to St. Michael.

    And of the all the extensive Catholic literature the TFP publishes and distributes, it seems to fit the trad specs.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
    « Reply #13 on: December 11, 2023, 03:59:13 PM »
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  • And of the all the extensive Catholic literature the TFP publishes and distributes, it seems to fit the trad specs.
    Sounds like a description of controlled opposition.

    Let's not forget that TFP, along with the founder of offshoot TIA, were outed by a whistleblower as a secret society that worshipped Plinio de Oliveira and "consecrated" themselves to him in a mockery of the Catholic Consecration to Our Lady.

    In another mockery of Jesus Christ they prayed to Mr. Oliveira I am not the one who lives but it is My Lord ( Dr. Pliny) that lives in me. From him all graces come for me, his spirit dwells in me.

    The actual Catholic version is "It is no longer I who live, but Christ in me who lives."






    The following article is taken from La Tradizione Cattolica , new series, Year IX, n. 38-1998, reproducing the deposition of the TFP affiliate Luiz Filipe de Freitas Guimaraes Abias, Curitiba, 24 August 1984.

    The statement was registered in the Public Archives (August 24, 1984) and published on March 14, 1985 by "Folha da Manha"; Campos, RJ, Brazil.

    I, the undersigned, Filipe de Freitas Guimarães Ablas, RG (General Register) 3,706,587, SP, unmarried, resident in Curitiba (Brazil), C.so Manoel Ribas, no. 418, I declare to be true that, when I belonged to the TFP, Brazilian Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property, in 1967 I entered a secret society of that association, called "Sacra Slavitù", also known by its members as "Always Living ".
    The members of this secret society have made a consecration of themselves as slaves of Doctor Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira in the same sense that St. Louis Grignion de Montfort recommended doing it to Our Lady. For this consecration as a slave to Doctor Pliny the same text established by St. Louis for the consecration to the Madonna was used, with some adaptations. We proceeded in this way because Doctor Pliny was considered to have the same spirit of the Madonna since he was one with the Immaculate and Wisdom Heart of Mary. The members of the said society prayed daily using the following prayer of the "Sacred Slavery", composed by Doctor Pliny himself:
    "Immaculate and Wisdom Heart of Mary, in this atmosphere of our days in which all are free men, drunk with freedom, I know that I have made myself your slave to be like the last of the men of which My Lord ( Dr. Pliny ) can to dispose of as a miserable object without a will of its own. In this atmosphere of our days in which everything speaks of naturalism, I know that my life is entirely supernatural. I am not the one who lives but it is My Lord ( Dr. Pliny) that lives in me. From him all graces come for me, his spirit dwells in me, and I can do, in this union as a slave, all that he himself can. In this climate of our days, without greatness, without horizons, of optimism and mediocrity, I know that our age will bring us grandiose events, with grandiose horizons in which I will have to live as a hero the same greatness of My Lord. Looking within myself and seeing so much smallness, I know that faith in all that I have just said will give me a participation in the very greatness of My Lord ( Doctor Pliny ), and will make myself a perfect Apostle of the end times. , according to the prophetic prayer of St. Louis Grignion de Montfort. In all this I believe, but, oh my Lord (Doctor Pliny), help my unbelief ".
    A parody of the Hail Mary towards him (the Doctor) was also recited as a prayer , which incorporated the prophecies of St. Louis, St. Elijah and himself:
    "Hail, Luigi Plinio Elia ( official name of Doctor Pliny in Sacred Slavery ), full of love and hate, the Most Holy Virgin is with you you are blessed among the faithful, and the fruit of your love and your hate, which is the Counter-ʀɛʋօʟutιօn, is blessed. O Sacral Luigi Plinio Elia, admirable and most Catholic father of the Counter-ʀɛʋօʟutιօn and the Kingdom of Mary, pray for us lame (capen gas) and sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen ".
    The rosary was also recited using this Hail Mary. The meetings also began with the same Hail Mary, the aforementioned prayer of the Sacred Slavery and with the ejaculations: " Hail, Luigi Plinio Elia, admirable and most Catholic father of the Counter-ʀɛʋօʟutιօn and of the Kingdom of Mary! Ave, Luigi Plinio Elia, most faithful slave of Immaculate and Wisdom Heart of Mary! "There were also Litanies for him, the Doctor, and it was said that they had been composed by Marcos Ribeiro Dantas (slave Pliny Paul).
    In one of these ejaculations to Doctor Pliny it was said: " Precursor of Elijah, pray for us! "
     
    Doctor Pliny also gave the blessing to his slaves. Sometimes, when they received it, they would lie on the ground with their faces turned upwards and then Doctor Pliny placed his right foot on their face and gave the blessing saying: "Benedictio Matris et Mediatricis descendat super vos et maneat semper ".
    Doctor Pliny's slaves used to confess to him, telling him their shortcomings and even their sins. After the accusation, if the slave asked him for a penance, Doctor Pliny had the habit of giving three slaps on the face of the slave. He later gave the blessing.
    The entry into the "Always Living" took place, through a ceremony that lasted a few hours, in the building on Via Alagoas, on the second floor of the house, and sometimes in other places.
    Doctor Pliny was seated in a small throne with the habit and cloak of the Carmelite Third Order. The assistants used the dress without the cloak. The person who was about to be introduced into the said society stretched out as if dead, prostrated himself on the ground in front of Doctor Pliny. At this point, from Doctor Pliny, he received the order to get up for a new life and he (the Doctor Ed.), Said to him: " Exsurge ". This meant that the person had died and a new man was born, a slave of the prophet, an Apostle of the end times.
    The person then fulfilled his consecration as a slave to Doctor Pliny and gave him all his being and his material and spiritual goods. This was done by handing him symbolic objects. Doctor Pliny acquired an absolute right over the slave as in Roman law, except for the right of life and death. This is why they call him " Dominus Plinius ".
     
    The ceremony continued to reach the kiss of the feet and hands of the prophet (Doctor Pliny) by the slave. Then, Doctor Pliny left the throne and made his new slave sit there, since he was now a new Pliny. Doctor Pliny kissed the feet and hands of his new slave. Then, as a result of a transforming union that took place between them, one lived in the other. The slave was a new Pliny. For this reason, he adopted the name of Pliny, composing it with another of a patron and a title of Our Lady. For example, I chose that of Pliny Bernardo Dimas Longinos of Our Lady, Holy Queen of the Apostles of the last times. I was known as Plinio Dimas. The existence of "Sacred Slavery" could not be communicated to the other members of the TFP,
    The first twelve slaves were:
    1) Caio Vidigal Xavier da Silveira - slave Mário Pliny. 2) Eduardo Barros Brotero - Pliny Eduardo slave. 3) Luiz Nazareno d'Assunpção Filho - slave Pliny Luiz. 4) João Scognamiglio Clà Dias - slave Pliny Fernando. 5) Humberto Braccese - slave Plinio Cirineu. 6) Fernando Siqueira - Bernardo slave. 7) Carlos Espírito Hofmeister Poli -slave Plinio José. 8) Marcos Ribeiro Dantes - Pliny Paulo slave. 9) Mário Navarro da Costa - slave Pliny Elias. 10) Dom Bertrand de Orleans and Bragança - slave Plinio Miguel. 11) Atila Sinke Guimarães - slave Plinio Márcio. 12) Cosme Beccar Varella Hijo-slave Plinio Lázaro.
    As time passed, other people entered the "Always Living". They are:
    13) Pliny Vidigal Xavier da Silveira - slave Pliny Elizeu. 14) Paulo Corrêa de Brito Filho - slave Pliny Jeremias. 15) Luiz Filipe Ablas - slave Pliny Dimas. 16) "X" - slave Plinio Inácio. 17) Dom Luiz de Orleans and Bragança - slave Plinio da Cruz. 18) Antônio Marcelino Pereira de Almeida - slave Pliny Francisco. 19) Edson Neves da Silva - slave Pliny Batista. 20) Fernando Antunes Aldunate - slave Pliny Longinos. 21) Leo Nino Doscolo Daniele - slave Plinio Tobias. 22) Fernando Furquin de Almeida Filho - slave Pliny Amen. 23) Martim Afonso Xavier da Silveira Jr. - slave Plinio Pedro. 24) Sergio Bidueira - slave Pliny Hildebrando. 25) José Lúcio de Araújo Correia - slave Plinio Ezquiel. 26) Julio Ubeold - slave Pliny Tomaz. 27) Fernado Teles - slave Plinio Leofredo. 28) Roberto Guerreiro - slave Pliny Agostinho. 29) Afonso Becar Verella - slave Plinio Ambrósio. 30) Miguel Becar Verella - Pliny Domingos slave. 31) Carlos Viano - slave Plinio Godofredo. 32) The Argentine Escurra - slave Pliny Leon. 33) Carlos Antunez Aldunate - slave Plinio Emanuel. 34) Jaime Antunez Aldunate - slave Plinio Gregório. 35) Gonzalo Larrain - slave Plinio Caetano. 36) Patricio Larrain - Pliny João slave. 37) Patrício Amunategui - slave Pliny Santiago. 38) Casté - slave Pliny Joaquim. 39) Pedro Paulo Figueiredo - slave Plinio Jacó '. 40) Carlos Alberto Soares Correia - slave Plinio Atenásio. 41) Aloisio Torres - slave Pliny Macabeu. 42) Roberto Esper Kalás - slave Plinio Bento. 43) Paulo Roberto Rosa - Pliny Tiago slave. 44) Paulo Cesar Nascimento - slave Pliny Henoc. 45) Lúcio Montes - slave Plinio Estevão. 46) "Y" - slave Pliny Afonso. 47) João Carlos Leal da Costa - slave Plinio Matatias. 48) Francisco Xavier Tosto - slave Pliny Isaias. 49) José Antônio Tosto - slave Plinio Sebastian. 50) "Z" - slave Pliny Clóvis. 51) Guerreiro Dantas - slave Plinio Davi. 52) Rivoir - slave Pliny Hermenegildo. 53) Alejandro Bravo - slave Pliny Samuel. 54) Carlos Ybarguren - slave Pliny Antonio. 55) Nelso Fragelli - slave Plinio Tomé. 56) Fernado Larrain - Pliny slave. 52) Rivoir - slave Pliny Hermenegildo. 53) Alejandro Bravo - slave Pliny Samuel. 54) Carlos Ybarguren - slave Pliny Antonio. 55) Nelso Fragelli - slave Plinio Tomé. 56) Fernado Larrain - Pliny slave. 52) Rivoir - slave Pliny Hermenegildo. 53) Alejandro Bravo - slave Pliny Samuel. 54) Carlos Ybarguren - slave Pliny Antonio. 55) Nelso Fragelli - slave Plinio Tomé. 56) Fernado Larrain - Pliny slave.
    There were others who, at the time, were not received in the "Always Living", but were equally slaves of Doctor Plinio: Antonio Candido Lara Ducca - Ducca slave and Carlos Eduardo Schafer - Schafer slave.
    Speaking of his own power and his slaves, Doctor Pliny asked: " What is the power of the Pope compared to all this? "
     
    It was said among the slaves that the "Secret of Mary", of which St. Louis Grignion de Montfort speaks is probably the institution of the "Sacred Slavery" towards Doctor Pliny.
    Doctor Pliny was then designated with the nickname "Maria", since Mary's slave was Pliny's slave.
    Slaves used to ask for graces, kneeling before Doctor Pliny. For example, Cosme Beccar Varella Hijo, in his consecration, asked "My Lord" for the grace of becoming a widower.
    I would also like to declare that I myself consecrated myself as the son of Donna Lucilia (mother of Doctor Pliny), kneeling in her tomb, in the presence of Doctor Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira and his personal guards.
      

    Curitiba, August 24, 1984
    Luiz Filipe de Freitas Guimaraes Abias
      

    Witnesses to the deposition:
    Orlando Fedeli 1.433.401, RG
    Giulio Folena 2.481.149, RG.
    Cartorio Ramos, Second Civil Registration Office, Titles and Docuмents, Via Mal. Floriano Peixoto, 986 - Tel. 224-2444.
    Declaration presented today. Drawn up and recorded on microfilm (no. 544948). Archive number: 330009.

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    Re: The TFP and Bishop de Castro Mayer
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  • what remains of the TFP in places like the U.S. are not anti-clerical at all.
    TFP is controlled opposition. If short on time, read this short excerpt from a former member of TFP
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    The atmosphere cultivated within this group is one which holds that the entire world is corrupt and only the TFP has escaped the corruption. Even traditional Catholics, such as Archbishop Lefebvre and his followers, are scorned—though never publicly.

    Very few members ever attend Mass on Sundays, not because of any inability to locate a Tridentine Mass chapel, but because most do not want to go. A few do attend Mass at a nearby Byzantine Catholic Church. Members of the TFP derisively refer to faithful Catholics who do attend the Tridentine Mass as "trads." I was mocked one Sunday for reading the Mass to myself out of a missal. TFP leaders even joke about "trad" priests saying on one occasion that they would like to have one kept in the basement to be brought out when needed.





    One former member (who is known to a member of my chapel) wrote this, which was published in Angelus Magazine:

    TFP: A DANGEROUS CULT

    John T. Armour

    I WAS A MEMBER of the American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Family and Property (TFP) from July 1980 until January 1981. I affiliated with the group after meeting with a TFP sympathizer in my home state of California. As a member, I lived at "the TFP seat" in Mount Kisco, New York, where I received the training and indoctrination that all members are given. I consider myself very fortunate to have been convinced by some good friends to separate from this group.

    Looking back, I can now see that the TFP is a dangerous personality cult whose purpose is the glorification of its Brazilian founder, Dr. Plinio Corea de Olivera. Many highly idealistic and religiously motivated young men have been captivated by its persuasive program. The appeals to moral, dogmatic and liturgical tradition which are so refreshing in this age of turmoil are, in my opinion, simply a means to lure individuals into the cult.

    During the period of training which I received, I was taught:

    * Dr. Plinio will never die. When his mission on earth is fulfilled, he will walk into an earthly paradise and then ascend into heaven.

    * Dr. Plinio's mission is to defeat "the revolution," the Communistic and/or demonic forces which are corrupting the human race. He is the "pilgrim of justice" sent by God for this purpose.

    * Next to the Blessed Virgin Mary, Dr. Plinio is most loved by God. Hence, St. Michael the Archangel is his own personal guardian angel.

    * Dr. Plinio has the power to read a man's soul in order to determine if he possesses "Tau," the vocation and quality to fight the revolution. He is even supposed to be able to make this determination from viewing a photograph. "Tau" can be found only in males.

    * Members of the TFP are required to pledge their allegiance to Dr. Plinio. They make a consecration of slavery to the Blessed Mother and to Dr. Plinio. So highly regarded is Dr. Plinio that we were encouraged to kiss one of his hats that had come into our possession. And we kept a special room set aside for him where we had a special bed raised on a platform above the floor.

    When I first arrived at TFP headquarters in New York, the leaders convinced me that the group was not a cult. They asked me what I had heard about the group and, after correcting minor mistaken notions I had, and after I had assured myself that I was not getting into something I would later regret being a part of, I became a member.

    Right away, a man was assigned to watch over me, answer my questions and keep me from knowing too much until they were sure of me. He even told me what to write in my letter to my parents. Those of us whose parents did not agree with the TFP soon found ourselves referring to our mothers and fathers as the "fountain of my revolution" (FMR). The inference was that each of us had a trace of the revolution in him, and it had been obtained as a result of the corruption and leniency of our parents. We were convinced to reject and ignore any advice from them, to see this corruption in all our family members, and to treat them accordingly. In time, I grew to despise my family. On one occasion when I was being encouraged in this attitude, I told the leaders that I had caused my mother to cry when I had talked with her by telephone. The leaders actually laughed. But, at the same time, we were urged to convince our parents that they should be proud of us because we were clean-cut gentlemen who were doing God's work.

    It may seem odd that a group such as the TFP could attract and hold anyone's confidence and loyalty. But the appeal of spirituality was very strong. We all knew that something was wrong both in the world and in the Church. Here was a dedicated group living an exemplary semi-monastic life, ostensibly formed to fight the decay we knew existed. And we were young and inexperienced. I was actually convinced that I was in the Blessed Mother's special army.

    The religious overtones were very heavy. We were encouraged to receive Holy Communion daily in the TFP Chapel. That it was distributed to us by a layman who was one of our own was done only out of supposed need. That need, of course, served to provide more evidence of the spread of the revolution. (A large number of hosts were consecrated three or four times a year by a visiting priest from Canada. He left them in our Chapel tabernacle.)

    The converted mansion where about sixty of us lived was full of holy pictures, statues and other religious articles. We were required to pray all fifteen decades of the Rosary daily, and meditation was encouraged. Each evening, after dinner, instruction from Dr. Plinio was given to all. Most often, this instruction came via recordings; sometimes it was a printed message that was read. All messages were in the Portuguese language which was translated into English by one of the leaders.

    We were led to believe that, if we left the TFP, Our Lady would chastise us because She did not want anyone to leave Her army. Many tales of terrible deaths suffered by those who left were recounted. We actually knew a Brazilian member who had been transferred to the United States, but who left the organization to get married. When he contracted a bone disease which killed him, many were pleased to learn that such justice had been delivered to a turncoat.

    The atmosphere cultivated within this group is one which holds that the entire world is corrupt and only the TFP has escaped the corruption. Even traditional Catholics, such as Archbishop Lefebvre and his followers, are scorned—though never publicly.

    Very few members ever attend Mass on Sundays, not because of any inability to locate a Tridentine Mass chapel, but because most do not want to go. A few do attend Mass at a nearby Byzantine Catholic Church. Members of the TFP derisively refer to faithful Catholics who do attend the Tridentine Mass as "trads." I was mocked one Sunday for reading the Mass to myself out of a missal. TFP leaders even joke about "trad" priests saying on one occasion that they would like to have one kept in the basement to be brought out when needed.

    It is my hope that no one will accept the TFP at face value. I believe the group to be a dangerous cult which does harm to those within its web, and to the Catholic Church which I thought I was serving while I was with it.
    http://www.angelusonline.org/index.php?section=articles

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