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Offline 2Vermont

Re: The Heretical Pope Fallacy
« Reply #310 on: January 13, 2018, 10:35:01 AM »
The Catholic Church gave us a SCHISMATIC Council?
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Offline Meg

Re: The Heretical Pope Fallacy
« Reply #311 on: January 13, 2018, 11:32:05 AM »
Quote from: Maria Auxiliadora on January 12, 2018, 04:51:56 PM

Fr. Hesse explains why Vatican II is Not A Council of the Church




I've only watched the first six minutes of the video, but there's a lot of good info in just that much of the video. Father Hesse explains that the first eight Ecuмenical Councils were not called by popes at all - but they were called by Emperors, and that the Pope didn't attend two of them. The second Ecuмenical Council in the year 381 (called by an Emperor, and which the pope did not attend), was not approved until the sixth century.
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Offline Cantarella

Re: The Heretical Pope Fallacy
« Reply #312 on: January 13, 2018, 11:48:23 AM »
Quote from: Meg on January 13, 2018, 11:32:05 AM

I've only watched the first six minutes of the video, but there's a lot of good info in just that much of the video. Father Hesse explains that the first eight Ecuмenical Councils were not called by popes at all - but they were called by Emperors, and that the Pope didn't attend two of them. The second Ecuмenical Council in the year 381 (called by an Emperor, and which the pope did not attend), was not approved until the sixth century.

That is quite irrelevant. The Councils are binding and consider Ecuмenical not because the pope convokes them or attends them but because (and when) he (or a later successor of St. Peter) ratifies them, even if it is done at much later time, such as Constantinople I.

Paul VI already ratified Vatican II Council.  

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Offline Meg

Re: The Heretical Pope Fallacy
« Reply #313 on: January 13, 2018, 11:52:44 AM »
Quote from: Cantarella on January 13, 2018, 11:48:23 AM
That is quite irrelevant. The Councils are binding not because the pope convokes them or attends them but because (and when) he ratifies them, even if it is done at much later time, as Constantinople I.

Paul VI already ratified Vatican II Council.  

Irrelevant to you, Cantarella, which doesn't mean much to me. I'll take Fr. Hesse's view any day, over that of a layman. 

There's more to the video, which I will watch. Father isn't just basing his view on the fact that the first eight councils weren't even called by a pope. There's more to it than that. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Heretical Pope Fallacy
« Reply #314 on: January 13, 2018, 03:40:39 PM »
Quote from: Meg on January 13, 2018, 11:52:44 AM
Irrelevant to you, Cantarella, which doesn't mean much to me. I'll take Fr. Hesse's view any day, over that of a layman.

There's more to the video, which I will watch. Father isn't just basing his view on the fact that the first eight councils weren't even called by a pope. There's more to it than that.

Hah, you'll take any view that agrees with your own.  You've already demonstrated that time and again.  You admit having watched only a few minutes of the video but already "take" his view.  Would be funny if about 30 minutes in he denounces flat earthers.  Since you take his view over that of a layman, why don't you ask him what he believes about the flat earth, and if he rejects it, you need to follow his lead ... since you should take his view over yours.  Hypocrite.

Cantarella is absolutely correct the papal ratification is what defines an Ecuмenical Council.
  
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