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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

Re: Paul VI to become a saint in 2018?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2018, 03:55:46 AM »
I pray to God. 
Not to Pope Paul VI. I might pray for him.  This is what Catholic teaching says for us to do - pray for our enemies..pray for souls in purgatory.  
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Offline Gabriella

Re: Paul VI to become a saint in 2018?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2018, 06:36:49 PM »
Quote from: Prayerful on January 10, 2018, 05:12:42 PM
That link wouldn't work for me, so here it is for anyone for whom that 404ed:
http://padrepioandchiesaviva.com/Paul_VI_Beatified_.html (choose the language) or http://padrepioandchiesaviva.com/uploads/Paul_VI.._beatified_english.pdf (English pdf).
Well worth reading for a good summary of that harmful man. Roncalli was foolish and weak, but he was followed by someone who came close to suppressing the Mass.
Thank you, I don't know why it didn't work.
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Offline Neil Obstat

Re: Paul VI to become a saint in 2018?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2018, 06:48:16 PM »
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on January 11, 2018, 03:55:46 AM
I pray to God.
Not to Pope Paul VI. I might pray for him.  This is what Catholic teaching says for us to do - pray for our enemies..pray for souls in purgatory.  
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I once asked a trad priest if he could offer a Mass for Annibale Bugnini and he looked like he was sucking a lemon.
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Well, I read a story that St. Lawrence prayed for his pursecutors while he roasted on a grid iron.
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Then there is the Prayer in the Mass for the Feast St. Lawrence, August 10th, which has an expanded version found at the end of the Benedicite.
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It was hard for me at first, but I got used to it after a while, then I liked it so much I found an image of his statue which I made into my avatar, which see ...
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Offline Neil Obstat

Re: Paul VI to become a saint in 2018?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2018, 06:57:27 PM »
Quote from: Viva Cristo Rey on December 24, 2017, 01:03:13 AM
I guess we have to pray for Pope Paul VI.  
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If this does happen, and Paul VI is still in Purgatory (or if he didn't make it) his torments would increase.
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So praying that it does NOT happen is kind of like praying for Paul VI: it's for his benefit.
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Which would be easier, to curse the memory of Paul VI or pray for the repose of his soul?
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Often times the saints chose the more difficult thing, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction and many there are who go in thereat, but narrow is the gate that leadeth to life and few there are that find it.
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Offline cassini

Re: Paul VI to become a saint in 2018?
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2018, 02:48:15 PM »
Quote from: Neil Obstat on January 11, 2018, 06:57:27 PM
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If this does happen, and Paul VI is still in Purgatory (or if he didn't make it) his torments would increase.
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So praying that it does NOT happen is kind of like praying for Paul VI: it's for his benefit.
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Which would be easier, to curse the memory of Paul VI or pray for the repose of his soul?
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Often times the saints chose the more difficult thing, for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction and many there are who go in thereat, but narrow is the gate that leadeth to life and few there are that find it.
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As I understand it, every man is responsible for his actions as they affect others. Given Pope Paul VI put his office behind Vatican II and the new Mass, doesn't he have to share in the blame for the loss of millions of souls and billions more to come?

The idea that he is a saint in heaven makes nonsense of Catholic teaching and understanding. So, are we damned if we dont and damned if we do?

Didn't God tell us 'by their fruits you shall know them?'
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