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Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2022, 10:58:09 PM »
He will likely be a saint soon. :pray: for him to hold fast till the end!

Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2022, 11:06:28 PM »
I suppose we can abstract from this concrete situation and discuss false prophecies and the like, but the OP (despite its title) is about a traditional Catholic man in the world's most oppressive country being imprisoned for wanting a Catholic state.

Don't be fαɢs. That's courageous stuff. Let's keep Jacob Pius in our prayers, and hope we can have just a little of that mettle.
Besides there is nothing in this thread to infer that this brave young man is, or claims  to be, the Great Monarch, except for the title Sean gave it. 


Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2022, 09:21:09 AM »
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Thumbs up, pal! This is a fascinating insight. Constant predictions about some great hero who will put all the bad guys away and restore everything to what it should be ... who is always just around the corner.

I never thought of the Great Monarch this way, but fake prophecies have been around since the beginning of the Church. In the middle ages there was something called the Mirabilis Liber that predicted all kinds of things that never happened. It supposedly included a number of statements from canonized saints, and yet I believe it was on the Index of Forbidden Books (or the medieval equivalent).

Here's a juicy excerpt from this absurd book:



It is obvious that most of these things have been disproved by subsequent events.

I think people have such a great desire to know the future, and likewise to be saved by some great hero from the evils of the world, that a prediction of the future that tells them of such a coming hero is almost irresistible.

It is entirely plausible that the Great Monarch is one of those things too.

Agreed. Its obviously acceptable to have faith in these prophecies when they're approved for belief, so I'm not saying people can't believe in them. I simply don't. Only the prophecies in Scripture are guaranteed to come true.

The time of monarchs has passed, I personally think the possibility for its fulfillment closed with the destruction of Christendom by WWI. It seems like a prophecy that was meant to be fulfilled in the 19th century when the papal states were seized and restructured into modern Italy.

This kind of goes for the Fatima prophecies as well. Some provide solid evidence that the consecration was done by Pius XII (which I've since come to agree with again), some disagree and follow the Grunerite fantasy that it's yet to come. I don't believe its fruitful to keep all of our faith in the hope for a worldly utopia when we are warned against such hopes time and time again by Our Lord.


Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2022, 01:12:16 PM »
This kind of goes for the Fatima prophecies as well. Some provide solid evidence that the consecration was done by Pius XII (which I've since come to agree with again), some disagree and follow the Grunerite fantasy that it's yet to come. I don't believe its fruitful to keep all of our faith in the hope for a worldly utopia when we are warned against such hopes time and time again by Our Lord.
And just look at what Fatima is being used for with Francis and his "consecration". Russia is seen as a savior and somehow not attached to the Great Reset, etc. There are even people supposedly on the Right calling for Russia to destroy the United States apparently without a sense of self preservation. Then there are those that claim that this and that prophecy hasn't been fulfilled, therefore this and that must be the case or come true.

I've done a lot of conspiracy research, but I admire the few on the forum who avoided the danger with a simple Catholic faith. It's easier to believe that we have it figured all out when we really know almost nothing and face a future full of unknowns.

Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2022, 10:47:54 PM »
And just look at what Fatima is being used for with Francis and his "consecration". Russia is seen as a savior and somehow not attached to the Great Reset, etc. There are even people supposedly on the Right calling for Russia to destroy the United States apparently without a sense of self preservation. Then there are those that claim that this and that prophecy hasn't been fulfilled, therefore this and that must be the case or come true.

I've done a lot of conspiracy research, but I admire the few on the forum who avoided the danger with a simple Catholic faith. It's easier to believe that we have it figured all out when we really know almost nothing and face a future full of unknowns.

Not to divulge much from the topic at hand, but is actually through my research concerning Russia's status as a crypto-Communist state that further convinces me that the Consecration has not been done. 

Agreed. Its obviously acceptable to have faith in these prophecies when they're approved for belief, so I'm not saying people can't believe in them. I simply don't. Only the prophecies in Scripture are guaranteed to come true.

The time of monarchs has passed, I personally think the possibility for its fulfillment closed with the destruction of Christendom by WWI. It seems like a prophecy that was meant to be fulfilled in the 19th century when the papal states were seized and restructured into modern Italy.

This kind of goes for the Fatima prophecies as well. Some provide solid evidence that the consecration was done by Pius XII (which I've since come to agree with again), some disagree and follow the Grunerite fantasy that it's yet to come. I don't believe its fruitful to keep all of our faith in the hope for a worldly utopia when we are warned against such hopes time and time again by Our Lord.



Personally, I think that monarchs will come back. After all, monarchy is perhaps the most natural form of government in the world. It will only take a collapse of this wretched post-WWII world order, and from it the ashes of a new, regenerated old world order will be reborn. Once men can no longer cling to this pathetic cripple of modern civilization, they will have to "get real" so to speak (without government programs and bureaucracy to help them) and common sense will become common again. 

I think that I should stop here so as not to further take away from the OP. 

Jacob Pius is a hero, though perhaps he may have been imprudent for posting his separatist opinions online, ultimately he was fighting for a Catholic cause. I will remember him in my prayers.