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So if Trads are going to debate each other, they should be productive and debate what is the best way to make the guy in the white cassock to stop destroying the church and make VII and the Novus Ordo go away. Then once a plan is agreed, carry it out.

Trads will never agree.  God will have to solve it His own way.  While one group of Trads is preparing the conclave to elect Pope Michael II, another group is actively working with Rome to get regularized.

Whether we have a Pope and we ignore him, follow him, resist him or claim he is not the Pope, or pick our own Pope; the problem still remains: the guy in the white cassock sitting in the Vatican spewing out heresies and promoting all the Communist's agendas is claimed to be the Pope by the vast majority of all baptized Catholics and by the vast majority of all those claiming to be the Catholic Chur's Hierarchy.

So if Trads are going to debate each other, they should be productive and debate what is the best way to make the guy in the white cassock to stop destroying the church and make VII and the Novus Ordo go away. Then once a plan is agreed, carry it out. If that can be done among the Trads, then I would support that effort, but if not then you are better off taking Matthew's advice "spend more time sanctifying ourselves and our families, and spending time and love on our children, so they will be less likely to stray later." At least that we can have an impact.

I just listened to another very good sermon from Fr. Wathen where he likened the Church of today to the little boat in the storm at sea.

The Apostles, who were veteran fishermen, were so terrified at the ferociousness of the storm and the waves that they thought they were going to drown. The whole time (while He was sound asleep, on a pillow) God was in complete control of that little boat as it rocked and sailed down into the trough of one wave and up to the peak of the next again and again, they thought that little boat was ready to break apart at any moment. The reason God did this was to test their faith.

That boat represents the Church today, and same as during that storm, God is in complete and total control over the Church. To do our part, we are expected to keep the faith through this storm, trusting that nothing will over come God. No matter how bad the pope is or how many bad popes there are, nothing will overcome God, nothing will ever destroy the Church. We must past this test of faith, we must have great faith, regardless of the status of the pope.

To me, it does not matter one way or the other unless he ever commands us to do something, but the pope was elected using the only method there is to elect a pope, this makes his election legitimate, hence the true pope. It cannot be proven otherwise and one way or the other there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it, so we need not be much concerned about it.

NO clergy, whether legitimate or illegitimate does not matter to me either, but because of the ad libbing that happens since V2, to me they are doubtful, but to the Church, the owner of the sacraments, they are presumed valid unless proven invalid. Either way, faithful trads who will only ever use trad priests need not be much concerned about it.    

See, I understand the logic of "I'll give the pope the benefit of the doubt, but I want to be careful about my Sacraments so I'll go to traditional priests", but then why is the SSPX coming into a closer relationship with Rome such a bad thing? As long as the SSPX continues with the traditional rites of ordination and mass, and doesn't embrace the modernist heresies abundant in Rome, then I fail to see how coming into a more regular status in the Church is a bad thing. It would just protect the SSPX from accusations of schism and make it easier for the traditional mass to grow within the Church.