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Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2024, 01:24:05 AM »
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  • Is he related to Bishop Sanborn?
    The behavior of these priests turns my stomach.

    How much does anyone want to bet those six children and their father are so scandalized they leave the Church if they haven’t already done so? 

    Why isn’t +Bp. Fellay on the list?  Enabling, aiding and abetting are crimes, too.  The sins are worse as he was their superior!  What if this is just the filthy
    tip of the SSPX iceberg? 

    If orange jumpsuits are ugly, wait until they accessorize with millstone necklaces. 
    That is their fate if they do not do some seriously stringent repenting in prison.
    Jailhouse pedophiles are unpopular. 

    To think I confessed, received Communion, and heard the Masses of two of these impure men. But I thank Our Lord that the sorry spiritual condition of the administrator’s soul in no way lessens the graces given the recipient.  It does, however, add to the sins of the priest. Better for them had I skipped confession, knelt directly in the pew, and remained there. 

    Now that their crimes are public, I propose every member and associate of the SSPX choose or be assigned to pray daily for the fallen priests including +Bp. Fellay.  Let us do our part lest Satan make them his permanent property.  Pray, too, for the victims, that they may find forgiveness in their hearts and their wounds healed. 

    Now to address the quoted question. It is better to remain ignorant. 

    Sanborn is a common surname in the USA. If the man mentioned is not related to +Bp. Sanborn, people may jump to wrong conclusions about a total stranger.  Even if he IS related to +Bp. Sanborn, what has a scandal in the SSPX have to do with Bp. Sanborn?  He is nowhere mentioned as having a part.  To the best of my knowledge, the only connection is to having been ordained by Archbishop LeFebvre in the 1970’s. He parted ways with the SSPX in 1983, was briefly with the SSPV, and founded Most Holy Trinity Seminary (MHT) in 1991. He was consecrated a bishop in 2022.  MHT’s  stands on several dogmatic and ecclesiastical issues are such that an MHT bishop would not counsel laity from the SSPX! 

    Let’s not fall into the sins of undue curiosity, rash judgment, gossip, and attributing guilt by mere association. 
    IOW, do not meddle! 




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    Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
    « Reply #16 on: August 12, 2024, 06:37:15 PM »
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  • I think if someone is going to do marital counselling, both spouses should be there. [Be]ause the wife especially could be just complaining about how awful her husband is to the priest and he could be on her side.
    The Priest: The Man of God: His Dignity and Duties:
    Quote from: St. Joseph Cafasso
    A lady was going often to the priest’s residence; she was well behaved but the priest could see no reason for the visits. He therefore thought that it would be better if they ceased. What was he to do? He tried to make her understand indirectly, but it was no use, she either did not understand him, or pretended that she did not. Then he spoke plainly to her and told her to stay in her own house. She took it badly and, one day that she met him, she complained in presence of other people and asked him if that was his ordinary way of dealing with ladies. He replied that it was. And why? she asked. Because, as you ought to know, the priest’s house is not made for women. She remained mute, and those who were listening said: Fine! What more does she want to know? That reason is worth a hundred. Vice versa, we can say: the houses of women are not made for priests. “Let him go and say his Breviary, this is not the place for him,” was said by a lady about a priest who wanted to prolong his visit.
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    Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
    « Reply #18 on: August 12, 2024, 08:22:11 PM »
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  • I think if someone is going to do marital counselling, both spouses should be there. Cause the wife especially could be just complaining about how awful her husband is to the priest and he could be on her side.

    Reading the lawsuit, wow, 6 children are being affected! It also says that one of the priests gave the wife a letter to give to the husband about him being abusive and "other misdeeds in the marriage". Shortly after, the husband was told to move out of his own home by the priests and a representative of the priests. The husband obeyed and then the priests initiated a formal separation. The wife sought the legal system to make sure her husband couldn't come back home or see the children.

    One of the priests swooped in and the wife and him had an affair. The children were left alone in the home while this happened.

    This makes me upset how these priests could paint the husband with false allegations and ruin his life. It's disgusting. And the ultimate betrayal by priests.
    We can see clerical backed and even encouraged Tradfeminism right here. It’s a big reason why many Traditional Catholic men don’t want to marry, or even have their non-Trad girlfriends convert. As Graham implied years ago, why ruin a good thing going? How many times did we point out that Traditional Catholicism either isn’t really opposed to the modern longhouse world, actively encourages its worst aspects, or doesn’t have solutions to deal with it.

    This situation is also good example of how a certain kind of clericalism leads the laity to ruin. The husband should have told the priests off in whatever colorful language he might have chosen.
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    « Reply #19 on: August 12, 2024, 09:03:16 PM »
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  • We can see clerical backed and even encouraged Tradfeminism right here. It’s a big reason why many Traditional Catholic men don’t want to marry, or even have their non-Trad girlfriends convert. As Graham implied years ago, why ruin a good thing going? How many times did we point out that Traditional Catholicism either isn’t really opposed to the modern longhouse world, actively encourages its worst aspects, or doesn’t have solutions to deal with it.

    This situation is also good example of how a certain kind of clericalism leads the laity to ruin. The husband should have told the priests off in whatever colorful language he might have chosen.
    It's the equivalent of a married woman seeking comfort and an outlet to vent from a male friend. And then the male friend swoops in and paints the husband as the bad guy. My past experience with male friends is that they aren't really friends and if they get jealous of the other man that you are dating or married to, that's a red flag. I'm sure to help with marriage problems, the wife would have better success talking to an older woman with a good marriage who can guide her.


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    « Reply #20 on: August 12, 2024, 10:02:54 PM »
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  • It's the equivalent of a married woman seeking comfort and an outlet to vent from a male friend. And then the male friend swoops in and paints the husband as the bad guy. My past experience with male friends is that they aren't really friends and if they get jealous of the other man that you are dating or married to, that's a red flag. I'm sure to help with marriage problems, the wife would have better success talking to an older woman with a good marriage who can guide her.

    There is no such thing as a man and a woman being friends. It simply does not exist.

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    « Reply #21 on: August 12, 2024, 10:03:01 PM »
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  • the wife would have better success talking to an older woman with a good marriage who can guide her.
    Or her own natural father.
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    « Reply #22 on: August 12, 2024, 10:04:29 PM »
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  • There is no such thing as a man and a woman being friends.
    It occurs in marriage.
    SCG 3 cap. 123 [6]:
    Quote from: St. Thomas Aquinas
    there seems to be the greatest friendship between husband and wife
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    « Reply #23 on: August 12, 2024, 10:06:54 PM »
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  • why ruin a good thing going?
    Yes. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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    « Reply #24 on: August 12, 2024, 10:10:20 PM »
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  • one of the priests gave the wife a letter to give to the husband about him being abusive and "other misdeeds in the marriage"
    That's weird. Too cowardly to confront the husband in person?
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    « Reply #25 on: August 13, 2024, 06:12:56 AM »
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  • Fr. Duverger was transferred this past week from the Sanford FL priory where he was stationed for many years.
    He should be excommunicated and deported.   
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    « Reply #26 on: August 13, 2024, 07:17:44 AM »
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  • Is he back with his wife or they finished.  If they are finished, he needs to sue her and get custody of his children. 

    This a huge problem with the SSPX. They are just as bad as the Novus ordo with sex abuse.  This kind of stuff is going on many Protestant churches as well.  They say that they have been infiltrated too by communists destroying the church from within.  After watching Greater Glory(Christeros, free mason has been busy in the year 1917. 
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    « Reply #27 on: August 13, 2024, 07:19:07 AM »
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  • Nine Ways of Being Accessory to Another's Sin
    • By counsel. In other words, we should never urge someone to do something ill-advised or sinful. ...
    • By command. Or, in other words, don't force someone to do something sinful. ...
    • By consent. What is this? ...
    • By provocation. ...
    • By praise or flattery. ...
    • By concealment. ...
    • By partaking. ...
    • By silence.

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    « Reply #28 on: August 13, 2024, 07:21:35 AM »
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  • Corinthians in the douay rheims bible says  that we should stay away from fornicators and sodomites.  

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    « Reply #29 on: August 13, 2024, 12:28:53 PM »
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  • he needs to sue her
    I find it strange this husband resorts to secular courts (and that anti-SSPX Christine Niles's Stella Maris Media is the only source I've seen report on this). Why didn't he have recourse to ecclesiastical courts first? Or confront the offending priest directly?

    1 Cor. 6:6-7:
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    But brother goeth to law with brother: and that before unbelievers. Already indeed there is plainly a fault among you, that you have law suits one with another
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