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Title: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Jr1991 on August 10, 2024, 09:38:32 PM
More scandals concerning the SSPX in Florida. 


A new lawsuit is accusing the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) of engaging in "fraudulent concealment" and breaking up a family through an illicit relationship with a priest.
Plaintiff Stephen Sanborn, Jr. filed the lawsuit (https://www.scribd.com/docuмent/752461822/Sanborn-v-SSPX) on July 16 in Platte County Circuit Court in Missouri, specifically naming Fr. Pierre Duverger and Fr. Arnaud Rostand.
According to the complaint, Sanborn's wife Jennifer "began marital counseling with Fr. Duverger" in 2011. Stephen began counseling with him in 2013.


SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit (stellamaris.media) (https://stellamaris.media/f/sspx-sued-for-fraud-breaking-up-family-read-the-lawsuit)

Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: FarmerWife on August 10, 2024, 10:37:31 PM
I think if someone is going to do marital counselling, both spouses should be there. Cause the wife especially could be just complaining about how awful her husband is to the priest and he could be on her side. 

Reading the lawsuit, wow, 6 children are being affected! It also says that one of the priests gave the wife a letter to give to the husband about him being abusive and "other misdeeds in the marriage". Shortly after, the husband was told to move out of his own home by the priests and a representative of the priests. The husband obeyed and then the priests initiated a formal separation. The wife sought the legal system to make sure her husband couldn't come back home or see the children. 

One of the priests swooped in and the wife and him had an affair. The children were left alone in the home while this happened. 

This makes me upset how these priests could paint the husband with false allegations and ruin his life. It's disgusting. And the ultimate betrayal by priests that you put your trust in. 
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Jr1991 on August 10, 2024, 10:52:27 PM
I think if someone is going to do marital counselling, both spouses should be there. Cause the wife especially could be just complaining about how awful her husband is to the priest and he could be on her side.

Reading the lawsuit, wow, 6 children are being affected! It also says that one of the priests gave the wife a letter to give to the husband about him being abusive and "other misdeeds in the marriage". Shortly after, the husband was told to move out of his own home by the priests and a representative of the priests. The husband obeyed and then the priests initiated a formal separation. The wife sought the legal system to make sure her husband couldn't come back home or see the children.

One of the priests swooped in and the wife and him had an affair. The children were left alone in the home while this happened.

This makes me upset how these priests could paint the husband with false allegations and ruin his life. It's disgusting. And the ultimate betrayal by priests that you put your trust in.

I completely agree. Both spouses must be present in marital counseling to ensure fairness and transparency. It’s deeply troubling to hear about how the situation unfolded with the priests. The impact on the children and the betrayal involved are heart-wrenching. It's appalling that such trusted figures could act so unethically and cause so much harm. Everyone involved deserves support and justice, and it's a stark reminder of the importance of integrity and accountability in all roles, especially those of trust. 
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Matthew on August 10, 2024, 11:29:17 PM
A new lawsuit is accusing the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) of engaging in "fraudulent concealment" and breaking up a family through an illicit relationship with a priest.
Plaintiff Stephen Sanborn, Jr. filed the lawsuit (https://www.scribd.com/docuмent/752461822/Sanborn-v-SSPX) on July 16 in Platte County Circuit Court in Missouri, specifically naming Fr. Pierre Duverger and Fr. Arnaud Rostand.
According to the complaint, Sanborn's wife Jennifer "began marital counseling with Fr. Duverger" in 2011. Stephen began counseling with him in 2013.

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At the time, Fr. Rostand was U.S. district superior.
As Stella Maris Media has reported (https://stellamaris.media/f/sspx-priest-on-trial-for-abusing-7-children-1), Rostand was recently convicted in French criminal court after confessing to molesting at least seven boys.
Duverger has also been accused of grooming and sɛҳuąƖ assault. In our Aug. 20, 2021 Spotlight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYpQxGvZqDI), an alleged 12-year-old victim in France accused Duverger of counseling her and engaging in explicit sɛҳuąƖ conversations.
Duverger's removal from Bordeaux was the result of another sex scandal in which he was allegedly embroiled, involving a young adult woman he was counseling before marriage.



The scandal led to Duverger's transfer to Our Lady of Guadalupe Monastery in Silver City, New Mexico for a year of "prayer" and "penance," before being installed in the U.S. District Superior's communications office.
While restrictions were reportedly placed on him from being around girls or women, witnesses say those restrictions were not enforced.
Grooming and assault allegations continued to follow Duverger afterwards, as we reported in our April 22, 2020 Spotlight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guAD1bsFsPM).
As Sanborn's lawsuit notes, in spite of the restrictions on Duverger, "Fr. Duverger undertook counseling and spiritual direction of Plaintiff and his then wife, Jennifer."
"In April 2014, at the behest of Fr. Duverger, Plaintiff's wife gave to him a letter admittedly dictated to her by Duverger falsely accusing Plaintiff of abuse and other misdeeds in the marriage."
"Shortly thereafter, Plaintiff was told by the Priests and an individual acting on behalf of the priests that he needs to move out of his home."
According to the complaint, "Duverger began a long-term relationship with Plaintiff's wife," who began seeing him "at all hours of the day and night."
(https://www.scribd.com/docuмent/752461822/Sanborn-v-SSPX)
(https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/be00658c-19a3-4de6-9fc0-358ce018c6d6/sspx%20screenshot.png/:/cr=t:0%25,l:0%25,w:100%25,h:100%25/rs=w:1280) (https://www.scribd.com/docuмent/752461822/Sanborn-v-SSPX)
Sanborn accuses both Rostand and Duverger of spreading falsehoods about him, leading to being cut off from his wife and children.
The SSPX eventually helped secure a decree of nullity for Jennifer.
Sanborn is accusing Rostand as superior of knowingly allowing Duverger to violate the restrictions imposed on him by frequently meeting alone with his wife, in spite of Duverger's known track record of alleged grooming and abuse of other women he had counseled.
After spending large sums defending himself in court, Sanborn was forced to file for bankruptcy.
He is accusing the SSPX of breach of fiduciary duty and constructive fraud, among other things, and is demanding a jury trial and compensatory and punitive damages.
"Highly insular and secretive," said Attorney Rebecca Randles, who is representing the plaintiff. "The SSPX has created an environment ripe for the use and abuse of power by its priests exercising influence over every aspect of the lives of its followers."
"The SSPX and those appointed to handle its affairs have eschewed oversight, allowing some of its priests to run amok, causing grave harm to those left in their wake," she added. "This lawsuit has been filed to shine a light on some of the priests' behaviors."
String of Lawsuits & Convictions
Fr. Benedict Van Der Putten Lawsuit

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This lawsuit follows another one filed in California against the SSPX (https://stellamaris.media/f/sspx-sued-for-sex-abuse-cover-up-in-california) accusing the Society of covering up sex abuse.
Going by the initials M.K., the plaintiff is accusing Fr. Benedict Van Der Putten of molesting her when she was 6–9 years old, while she attended camp at St. Aloysius in 1997–1999.
According to the third amended complaint (https://www.scribd.com/docuмent/725915550/Third-Amended-Complaint-MK-v-ROMAN-CATHOLIC-BISHOP-OF-SAN-JOSE-et-al), filed in January 2024 (warning: graphic), “As part of the summer camp activities, Van Der Putten took Plaintiff on ATV rides. While on the all-terrain vehicle, Van Der Putten would sit behind Plaintiff and fondle her ___ under her clothing.”
As we first reported in 2021 in Spotlight: SSPX Predator in Our Midst (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNHM6yMsL9c), Van Der Putten was accused of molesting several girls, both minors and young adults. Victims were told not to report him to police, and one whistleblower was ordered to remain silent.
Fr. Jean-Luc Radier Arrested for Rape
(https://stellamaris.media/f/another-sspx-priest-arrested-for-child-sex-crimes)
(https://img1.wsimg.com/isteam/ip/be00658c-19a3-4de6-9fc0-358ce018c6d6/radier.jpg/:/cr=t:0%25,l:0%25,w:100%25,h:100%25/rs=w:1280) (https://stellamaris.media/f/another-sspx-priest-arrested-for-child-sex-crimes)
In May of this year, 64-year-old Fr. Jean-Luc Radier of the SSPX was arrested for raping a minor (https://stellamaris.media/f/another-sspx-priest-arrested-for-child-sex-crimes), and is currently under investigation.
The charges stem from Radier's time teaching at Star of the Morning ("L'Etoile du Matin") Academy (https://www.etoile-du-matin.fr/) in Eguelshardt, Moselle, France, between 1993 and 1995.
Authorities conducted a search of Radier's residence. The prosecutor, Edwige Roux-Morizot, noted, "Digital material has been collected and will be reviewed during the investigation."
While only one victim has come forward to accuse Radier, it is suspected he has many more. Speaking to police, the victim reportedly said Radier would creep into the boys' dormitory on an almost-nightly basis in search of victims, "busloads of them," according to him.
Fr. Arnaud Rostand's Admission

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As mentioned above, this comes less than two months after Fr. Rostand admitted in French court that he abused children (https://stellamaris.media/f/sspx-priest-on-trial-for-abusing-7-children-1), saying (https://www.leparisien.fr/faits-divers/juge-pour-attouchements-sur-mineurs-un-pretre-de-la-fraternite-saint-pie-x-avait-prevenu-sa-hierarchie-de-cette-attirance-05-04-2024-2NQN4I2W6ZAHTPKCVA6OJ7LNTQ.php) he has “always struggled against this attraction” to adolescents.
Significantly, Rostand made his SSPX superiors aware of his struggles as early as 1998, writing a letter to his superiors admitting his attraction to children. He repeated his concerns to superiors in 2000, 2006 and 2016.
Rostand himself confirmed in a 2010 interview (https://www.remnantnewspaper.com/Remnant 2011/Archives/2010-0315-rostand-interviewm.htm), “In August of 2008, Bishop Fellay, the General Superior of the Society of Saint Pius X, appointed me as Superior of the District of the United States.”
He served as district superior from 2008–2014, during which Sanborn accuses him of covering for Duverger.
In spite of these warnings, the SSPX, primarily through Fellay, continued placing Rostand in positions of authority in Europe, Asia and the United States.

Read more:
Another SSPX Priest Arrested for Child Sex Crimes (https://stellamaris.media/f/another-sspx-priest-arrested-for-child-sex-crimes)
SSPX Priest on Trial for Abusing 7 Children (https://stellamaris.media/f/sspx-priest-on-trial-for-abusing-7-children-1)
SSPX Sued for Sex Abuse Cover-Up in California (https://stellamaris.media/f/sspx-sued-for-sex-abuse-cover-up-in-california)
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Matthew on August 10, 2024, 11:32:37 PM
What's the matter with these priests? Don't they believe in Hell anymore? They should know better. It's not like they were brought up in some man-made religion (like the post-Vatican II Conciliar religion) that no longer teaches the truth about God, His Justice, eternity, and Hell. It's not like Trads don't read REAL Catholic books by saints with sobering words about eternity, etc. At the very least, each one of these priests got PLENTY of this during their seminary days, in their spiritual/Scripture reading, retreats, spiritual conferences, and all their classes. For the span of SIX YEARS!

How can these priests be so... stupid! Do they really want to go to Hell for eternity for a momentary pleasure?

Did they stop praying? Stop reading Catholic spiritual reading? Stop praying their breviary? Or what?
I really want to know, but this is quite shocking and sobering. I don't mean this in a pearl-clutching sort of way. I mean it in the best Catholic way. These kind of things shock me, and make me wonder how it happens, so I can prepare and defend myself against these apparently insane-level diabolical temptations.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Plenus Venter on August 11, 2024, 12:04:06 AM
What's the matter with these priests? Don't they believe in Hell anymore? They should know better. It's not like they were brought up in some man-made religion (like the post-Vatican II Conciliar religion) that no longer teaches the truth about God, His Justice, eternity, and Hell. It's not like Trads don't read REAL Catholic books by saints with sobering words about eternity, etc. At the very least, each one of these priests got PLENTY of this during their seminary days, in their spiritual/Scripture reading, retreats, spiritual conferences, and all their classes. For the span of SIX YEARS!

How can these priests be so... stupid! Do they really want to go to Hell for eternity for a momentary pleasure?

Did they stop praying? Stop reading Catholic spiritual reading? Stop praying their breviary? Or what?
I really want to know, but this is quite shocking and sobering. I don't mean this in a pearl-clutching sort of way. I mean it in the best Catholic way. These kind of things shock me, and make me wonder how it happens, so I can prepare and defend myself against these apparently insane-level diabolical temptations.
"Watch and pray lest ye enter into temptation. For the spirit is willing but the flesh is weak".
"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation, for when he hath been proved he will receive the crown of life".
Who can tell what temptations another man has to endure? It can at times require heroic virtue to resist. Of course, one thing is certain, the grace of God is sufficient for us. The saints considered themselves the world's greatest sinners, because they could see how easily they could have been guilty of such great crimes were it not for the mercies of God. We ought to humble ourselves, seeing how souls far greater than us have fallen.
I remember when I was in the seminary hearing a story, in the times of the Desert Fathers, how a certain young woman went out into the desert to seek their counsel. One of them fell into sin with her and then murdered her... and then spent the remainder of his life doing penance in the desert...
Priests and bishops become heresiarchs, Freemasons, communists, satanists... nothing should surprise us when it comes to fallen human nature.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Incredulous on August 11, 2024, 12:43:07 AM
What's the matter with these priests? Don't they believe in Hell anymore?

            Closing argument by German Attorney, Max Krah, when persuading the SSPX to accept the Jaidhoff bribes:

                                                    (https://image.stern.de/33698668/t/yA/v2/w1440/r1.7778/-/neu-maximilian-krah.jpg)
                "Ich bin zertifiziert, mit dem Teufel
                  zu verhandeln, und ich kann dich
                      vor der Hölle bewahren."

Translation:


"I'm certified to negotiate with the devil and I can keep you out of hell."
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Gray2023 on August 11, 2024, 05:35:59 AM
Stuff like this has been going on for years.  It breaks my heart to see families torn apart and men of the cloth abusing their power.

St Philomena, pray for us.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Jr1991 on August 11, 2024, 12:05:42 PM
Fr. Duverger was transferred this past week from the Sanford FL priory where he was stationed for many years. 
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 11, 2024, 04:05:21 PM
St Philomena, pray for us.
🙏
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 11, 2024, 04:08:59 PM
Stephen Sanborn, Jr.
Is he related to Bishop Sanborn?
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 11, 2024, 04:23:16 PM
Stop praying their breviary?
Yes, that's been an issue at the priory here; a handful don't come to Prime, and I only see only a few praying the breviary in the church or walking around outside.
It reminds me of pt. 3, § 2 of "The Active Worker Who Has No Interior Life" of The Soul of the Apostolate (https://isidore.co/calibre#panel=book_details&book_id=4873): "THIRD STAGE, of which the symptom is neglect in the recitation of the BREVIARY."
I've also noticed that zeal for Our Lady has been dying. We haven't had a Marian procession in 6 years; and we don't pray the rosary on Eucharistic processions anymore, which we used to do 6 years ago.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Jr1991 on August 11, 2024, 07:59:04 PM
Is he related to Bishop Sanborn?

I don't know;  I doubt it. 
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Miseremini on August 11, 2024, 09:37:39 PM
St Philomena, pray for us.
And today's her feast day.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 11, 2024, 11:28:17 PM
We haven't had a Marian procession in 6 years
I mean one off-property.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Seraphina on August 12, 2024, 01:24:05 AM
Is he related to Bishop Sanborn?
The behavior of these priests turns my stomach.

How much does anyone want to bet those six children and their father are so scandalized they leave the Church if they haven’t already done so? 

Why isn’t +Bp. Fellay on the list?  Enabling, aiding and abetting are crimes, too.  The sins are worse as he was their superior!  What if this is just the filthy
tip of the SSPX iceberg? 

If orange jumpsuits are ugly, wait until they accessorize with millstone necklaces. 
That is their fate if they do not do some seriously stringent repenting in prison.
Jailhouse pedophiles are unpopular. 

To think I confessed, received Communion, and heard the Masses of two of these impure men. But I thank Our Lord that the sorry spiritual condition of the administrator’s soul in no way lessens the graces given the recipient.  It does, however, add to the sins of the priest. Better for them had I skipped confession, knelt directly in the pew, and remained there. 

Now that their crimes are public, I propose every member and associate of the SSPX choose or be assigned to pray daily for the fallen priests including +Bp. Fellay.  Let us do our part lest Satan make them his permanent property.  Pray, too, for the victims, that they may find forgiveness in their hearts and their wounds healed. 

Now to address the quoted question. It is better to remain ignorant. 

Sanborn is a common surname in the USA. If the man mentioned is not related to +Bp. Sanborn, people may jump to wrong conclusions about a total stranger.  Even if he IS related to +Bp. Sanborn, what has a scandal in the SSPX have to do with Bp. Sanborn?  He is nowhere mentioned as having a part.  To the best of my knowledge, the only connection is to having been ordained by Archbishop LeFebvre in the 1970’s. He parted ways with the SSPX in 1983, was briefly with the SSPV, and founded Most Holy Trinity Seminary (MHT) in 1991. He was consecrated a bishop in 2022.  MHT’s  stands on several dogmatic and ecclesiastical issues are such that an MHT bishop would not counsel laity from the SSPX! 

Let’s not fall into the sins of undue curiosity, rash judgment, gossip, and attributing guilt by mere association. 
IOW, do not meddle! 



Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 12, 2024, 06:37:15 PM
I think if someone is going to do marital counselling, both spouses should be there. [Be]ause the wife especially could be just complaining about how awful her husband is to the priest and he could be on her side.
The Priest: The Man of God: His Dignity and Duties (https://isidore.co/calibre#panel=book_details&book_id=6013):
Quote from: St. Joseph Cafasso
A lady was going often to the priest’s residence; she was well behaved but the priest could see no reason for the visits. He therefore thought that it would be better if they ceased. What was he to do? He tried to make her understand indirectly, but it was no use, she either did not understand him, or pretended that she did not. Then he spoke plainly to her and told her to stay in her own house. She took it badly and, one day that she met him, she complained in presence of other people and asked him if that was his ordinary way of dealing with ladies. He replied that it was. And why? she asked. Because, as you ought to know, the priest’s house is not made for women. She remained mute, and those who were listening said: Fine! What more does she want to know? That reason is worth a hundred. Vice versa, we can say: the houses of women are not made for priests. “Let him go and say his Breviary, this is not the place for him,” was said by a lady about a priest who wanted to prolong his visit.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: FarmerWife on August 12, 2024, 07:40:59 PM
The Priest: The Man of God: His Dignity and Duties (https://isidore.co/calibre#panel=book_details&book_id=6013):
That's a good priest.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Caraffa on August 12, 2024, 08:22:11 PM
I think if someone is going to do marital counselling, both spouses should be there. Cause the wife especially could be just complaining about how awful her husband is to the priest and he could be on her side.

Reading the lawsuit, wow, 6 children are being affected! It also says that one of the priests gave the wife a letter to give to the husband about him being abusive and "other misdeeds in the marriage". Shortly after, the husband was told to move out of his own home by the priests and a representative of the priests. The husband obeyed and then the priests initiated a formal separation. The wife sought the legal system to make sure her husband couldn't come back home or see the children.

One of the priests swooped in and the wife and him had an affair. The children were left alone in the home while this happened.

This makes me upset how these priests could paint the husband with false allegations and ruin his life. It's disgusting. And the ultimate betrayal by priests.
We can see clerical backed and even encouraged Tradfeminism right here. It’s a big reason why many Traditional Catholic men don’t want to marry, or even have their non-Trad girlfriends convert. As Graham implied years ago, why ruin a good thing going? How many times did we point out that Traditional Catholicism either isn’t really opposed to the modern longhouse world, actively encourages its worst aspects, or doesn’t have solutions to deal with it.

This situation is also good example of how a certain kind of clericalism leads the laity to ruin. The husband should have told the priests off in whatever colorful language he might have chosen.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: FarmerWife on August 12, 2024, 09:03:16 PM
We can see clerical backed and even encouraged Tradfeminism right here. It’s a big reason why many Traditional Catholic men don’t want to marry, or even have their non-Trad girlfriends convert. As Graham implied years ago, why ruin a good thing going? How many times did we point out that Traditional Catholicism either isn’t really opposed to the modern longhouse world, actively encourages its worst aspects, or doesn’t have solutions to deal with it.

This situation is also good example of how a certain kind of clericalism leads the laity to ruin. The husband should have told the priests off in whatever colorful language he might have chosen.
It's the equivalent of a married woman seeking comfort and an outlet to vent from a male friend. And then the male friend swoops in and paints the husband as the bad guy. My past experience with male friends is that they aren't really friends and if they get jealous of the other man that you are dating or married to, that's a red flag. I'm sure to help with marriage problems, the wife would have better success talking to an older woman with a good marriage who can guide her.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Giovanni Berto on August 12, 2024, 10:02:54 PM
It's the equivalent of a married woman seeking comfort and an outlet to vent from a male friend. And then the male friend swoops in and paints the husband as the bad guy. My past experience with male friends is that they aren't really friends and if they get jealous of the other man that you are dating or married to, that's a red flag. I'm sure to help with marriage problems, the wife would have better success talking to an older woman with a good marriage who can guide her.

There is no such thing as a man and a woman being friends. It simply does not exist.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 12, 2024, 10:03:01 PM
the wife would have better success talking to an older woman with a good marriage who can guide her.
Or her own natural father.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 12, 2024, 10:04:29 PM
There is no such thing as a man and a woman being friends.
It occurs in marriage.
SCG 3 cap. 123 (https://isidore.co/aquinas/ContraGentiles3b.htm#123) [6]:
Quote from: St. Thomas Aquinas
there seems to be the greatest friendship between husband and wife
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 12, 2024, 10:06:54 PM
why ruin a good thing going?
Yes. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 12, 2024, 10:10:20 PM
one of the priests gave the wife a letter to give to the husband about him being abusive and "other misdeeds in the marriage"
That's weird. Too cowardly to confront the husband in person?
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2024, 06:12:56 AM
Fr. Duverger was transferred this past week from the Sanford FL priory where he was stationed for many years.
He should be excommunicated and deported.   
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2024, 07:17:44 AM
Is he back with his wife or they finished.  If they are finished, he needs to sue her and get custody of his children. 

This a huge problem with the SSPX. They are just as bad as the Novus ordo with sex abuse.  This kind of stuff is going on many Protestant churches as well.  They say that they have been infiltrated too by communists destroying the church from within.  After watching Greater Glory(Christeros, free mason has been busy in the year 1917. 
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2024, 07:19:07 AM
Nine Ways of Being Accessory to Another's Sin

Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 13, 2024, 07:21:35 AM
Corinthians in the douay rheims bible says  that we should stay away from fornicators and sodomites.  

Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 13, 2024, 12:28:53 PM
he needs to sue her
I find it strange this husband resorts to secular courts (and that anti-SSPX Christine Niles's Stella Maris Media (https://stellamaris.media/) is the only source I've seen report on this). Why didn't he have recourse to ecclesiastical courts first? Or confront the offending priest directly?

1 Cor. 6:6-7 (https://drbo.org/cgi-bin/d?b=drl&bk=53&ch=6&l=6-7#x):
Quote from: St. Paul
But brother goeth to law with brother: and that before unbelievers. Already indeed there is plainly a fault among you, that you have law suits one with another
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 13, 2024, 12:31:34 PM
This a huge problem with the SSPX. They are just as bad as the Novus ordo with sex abuse.
The Novus Ordo primarily engages in pederasty. Cases of that are very rare in the SSPX.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 13, 2024, 12:38:49 PM
We can see clerical backed and even encouraged Tradfeminism right here.
I'm so sick of feminism. I was happy to see Bp. Schneider's recent Flee from Heresy (https://isidore.co/calibre#panel=book_details&book_id=9972) condemn it under the 20th century heresies §:
Quote from: Bp. Schneider
FEMINISM
Sociopolitical advocacy for the supposed equality of the sexes, tending to the destruction of natural distinction and proper roles in marriage, family, and society.
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: BOTHY on August 13, 2024, 07:32:57 PM
I'm so sick of feminism. I was happy to see Bp. Schneider's recent Flee from Heresy (https://isidore.co/calibre#panel=book_details&book_id=9972) condemn it under the 20th century heresies §:
You can thank the usual suspects:


https://tinyurl.com/mrccvz23
Title: Re: SSPX Sued for Fraud, Breaking up Family: Read the Lawsuit
Post by: Geremia on August 13, 2024, 09:06:41 PM
You can thank the usual suspects: https://tinyurl.com/mrccvz23
Some of those are mentioned in The Anti-Mary Exposed: Rescuing the Culture from Toxic Femininity (https://isidore.co/calibre/#panel=book_details&book_id=7176). Not surprising they're Jews.
Margaret Sanger was raised Catholic, but lost the faith because of her abusive father.