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Author Topic: Problems with the Catechism of the Catholic Church?  (Read 6086 times)

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Re: Problems with the Catechism of the Catholic Church?
« Reply #10 on: November 28, 2019, 02:19:03 AM »
The Holy Spirit purifies, illuminates, and sanctifies us in the Sacraments of Initiation: Holy Baptism, Holy Confirmation, and Holy Communion. It is He, the All-Holy Spirit, who sends us the graces to repent (actual grace) and the graces to become Sons of God (Sanctifying grace).

Since the Jews and Moslems deny the Holy Spirit and the Christ, they do not worship the Holy Trinity.

And hence, they do not worship the same God as we do.

Re: Problems with the Catechism of the Catholic Church?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2019, 12:51:55 AM »
Mark,

When did the Jews fall into Kabbalism? Was this before or after the time of Christ?
When I studied Old Testament History and the History of the Jews (from a Roman Catholic perspective), we were taught that the Ark of the Covenant was taken from the Jєωιѕн people because of their idolatry. This happened long before Christ appeared.

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Poche,

Judaism today does not worship the Most Holy Trinity, neither do the Muslims. By 70 A.D. , the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed.

Islam is a religion founded by Mohammed who worshiped the pagan moon god, not the Most Holy Trinity. This is why the crescent moon is on the Islamic flag.  Islam stole elements of Christianity and Judaism, for example, prostrations, fasting, and hours of prayers,  and incorporated these elements into their religion, which is of the devil. Their religion is cafeteria style, where Mohanned and his followers picked elements of the Old and New Testaments that pleased them. It became a religion of fear, not love as they believed that this mood god was capricious.

The God of our Fathers, the Holy Trinity,, is not a capricious God. The Father sent His Only Begotten Son, Our Lord God and  Saviour Jesus Christ, to redeem us from our sins and to save us. The All Holy Trinity is sent by the Father to purify us in Holy Baptism,  to illuminate us in Holy Confirmation, and to sanctify us in Holy Communion, so that we can become adopted Sons of God and heirs of Heaven.  This is an act of Divine Love, not capriciousness.

Therefore, as Catholics, we do not worship the same God as do the Jews and Moslems because we worship the Holy Trinity: Father Son, and Holy Ghost.
Justin, in his dialogue with Trypho disagrees with you.


Re: Problems with the Catechism of the Catholic Church?
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2019, 01:36:59 AM »
Justin, in his dialogue with Trypho disagrees with you.
Oh, Poche, do not continue in your spiritual blindness.

Do you not see that the ancient Jews, who worshiped the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, also worshiped the Holy Trinity, Who is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?

This is why St. Justin wrote to the Jews of his time to encourage them to see the Light and convert to Christianity.

Why else would St. Justin take time to be an apostle to these Jews? They did not accept the Crucified One, Who is Christ. Thus, they did not worship the Holy Trinity, but denied Him in their idolatry and pride.

Through his teachings, St. Justin was able to convert many to Christ.

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Do you also agree with the heretical CCC that Moslems worship the same God as the Jews? If this were the case, then why are you not worshiping with the Moslems in their mosques or with Jews in their ѕуηαgσgυєs?

I remember distinctly that with the propagation of the docuмents of Vatican II, which insisted that we Catholics worship the same God as do the Jews and Moslems, that the Jєωιѕн ѕуηαgσgυє next door invited us to join them on their Sabbath, and many from our parish did with the encouragement of our priests. Horrors of Horrors! Some of the women in our parish even started to date Jєωιѕн men and marry them. Others started dating Moslems and even converted to Islam to marry these Moslems. Sadly, many Catholics were blinded to the reality of this idolatry as they had been lulled to sleep because the Vatican II NO Church was complicit in this diabolical deceit.

Do you now see how dangerous and diabolical these  teachings from Vatican II and the CCC are?

How many Catholics have lost the faith and are now damned in hell because they started worshiping with Jews and Moslems who do not worship the Holy Trinity, but the devil.


Re: Problems with the Catechism of the Catholic Church?
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2019, 01:59:24 AM »
If we're talking about JPII's Catechism of Vatican II, the best approach is to trash it.

Yes, that is the best approach. I rejected JPII's CCC completely because I reject everything that came from the Vatican II popes. Pope Pius IX said that if you have a bottle of wine that is 99.99% perfect wine, and you add one drop of poison, it'll kill you just the same, so one rightly should not let that wine even touch their tongue. However, in order reject it completely, one must believe that the Vatican II popes are not popes:



St. Ignatius in his Rules for Thinking with the Church

First ruleRenouncing all self-judgment, we must be wholly willing to obey in all things the true Spouse of Jesus Christ Our Lord, which is our Hierarchical Holy Mother Church.”

Ninth rule – Finally, to praise all precepts of the Church, always seeking reasons in their favor, and never in their disfavor.”

Thirteenth rule – To always be on the side of truth, we must follow this norm: the white that I see is black, if the Holy Church so decides it, believing that between Christ Our Lord, the Bridegroom, and the Church, his Bride, there is the same Spirit that governs and directs us for the salvation of our souls. In fact, the same Divine Spirit who gave us the Ten Commandments also rules and governs our Holy Mother Church. “

Re: Problems with the Catechism of the Catholic Church?
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2019, 04:58:55 AM »
Oh, Poche, do not continue in your spiritual blindness.

Do you not see that the ancient Jews, who worshiped the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, also worshiped the Holy Trinity, Who is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?

This is why St. Justin wrote to the Jews of his time to encourage them to see the Light and convert to Christianity.

Why else would St. Justin take time to be an apostle to these Jews? They did not accept the Crucified One, Who is Christ. Thus, they did not worship the Holy Trinity, but denied Him in their idolatry and pride.

Through his teachings, St. Justin was able to convert many to Christ.

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Do you also agree with the heretical CCC that Moslems worship the same God as the Jews? If this were the case, then why are you not worshiping with the Moslems in their mosques or with Jews in their ѕуηαgσgυєs?

I remember distinctly that with the propagation of the docuмents of Vatican II, which insisted that we Catholics worship the same God as do the Jews and Moslems, that the Jєωιѕн ѕуηαgσgυє next door invited us to join them on their Sabbath, and many from our parish did with the encouragement of our priests. Horrors of Horrors! Some of the women in our parish even started to date Jєωιѕн men and marry them. Others started dating Moslems and even converted to Islam to marry these Moslems. Sadly, many Catholics were blinded to the reality of this idolatry as they had been lulled to sleep because the Vatican II NO Church was complicit in this diabolical deceit.

Do you now see how dangerous and diabolical these  teachings from Vatican II and the CCC are?

How many Catholics have lost the faith and are now damned in hell because they started worshiping with Jews and Moslems who do not worship the Holy Trinity, but the devil.
What you are saying is not accurate. While many Jews were converting others were not. Some of them were signal in how they helped the Pagans persecute the Catholic Church.