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Re: ex cathedra, Francis
« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2018, 07:02:55 PM »
I wasn't born Catholic and have not actually made it into an authentic Catholic Church.  That is why anyone reading what I write may sense something missing.  It is!  I think I always had a Catholic soul even though I was born associated with Lutherans and raised in the Episcopal Church. 

Re: ex cathedra, Francis
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2018, 09:55:22 PM »
Fr. Safreed of Holy Family Church in Melbourne, Florida gave me permission to post his information.  I am glad to do it.  Except for greeting and closing thoughts, this is the letter he wrote:

'Holy Family is an independant Traditional Roman Cathoic Chapel with no ties whatsoever to the Novus Ordo church.

It is run by a lay-board who is responsible for its financial and physical well being.

I was originally ordained by the "Mar Thoma" Orthodox church, which has valid orders. This was done with the stipulation that I would NOT become a part of their religion, and that I would remain a part of the Traditional Roman Catholic Church. They did it as a favor to my then Superior, as I belong to a very small group of Franciscans called The Franciscan Friars of the Sacred Heart.  The Traditional bishops are very political, and so I resorted to being ordained under those conditions. 

When I came to Holy Family five years ago, I was ordained "sub-conditione" by Bishop Patrick Taylor, of Beckley, WV. He has many valid epispopal lines, of which no one can doubt, and used the traditional (Pius XII) ordinal when ordaining me sub-conditione. There can be no question about my validity. 

While the Chapel itself is "independent," I am a sedevacantist, so I do not beleive that there has been a valid Pope since the death of Pope Pius XII in 1958. I do not include "Pope" Francis' name in the Canon of the Mass. 

The Missal I use is that of the 1955-56 vintage, with the Holy Week as prescribed by Pius XII.'


Re: ex cathedra, Francis
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2018, 05:06:28 PM »
John XXII, Quia nonnunquam
 

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"Since sometimes what conjecture believed would be useful subsequent experience shows to be harmful, it should not be judged reprehensible if the maker of the canons desires to revoke, modify or suspend canons (or things contained in them) published either by himself or by his predecessors, if they seem to him to be obstructive rather than useful."


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