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Poll

What does Cum Ex expect us to do about Francis?

Judge or insist that he is not pope?
0 (0%)
Decide if he is pope or not?
0 (0%)
Contradict him? (do not deviate from the faith with him)
1 (12.5%)
Acknowledge without any declaration being necessary that he deviated from the faith or was heretic before his election and therefore is no pope at all because his election was null and void.
5 (62.5%)
Other (please explain)
2 (25%)

Total Members Voted: 7

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Re: Poll: cuм Ex - What did Pope Paul VI say we should do?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2025, 02:41:43 PM »
I have no idea.

Offline Meg

Re: Poll: cuм Ex - What did Pope Paul VI say we should do?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2025, 02:49:29 PM »
Johannes,

Are you the pope? 


Offline Meg

Re: Poll: cuм Ex - What did Pope Paul VI say we should do?
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2025, 02:55:34 PM »


There are, I believe, 2 or 3 claimants to the papacy (sedevacantist) at this time. Are you one of them? 

Offline Stubborn

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Re: Poll: cuм Ex - What did Pope Paul VI say we should do?
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2025, 02:56:07 PM »
cuм Ex is an official docuмent of the church, directed towards the clergy and those with authority in the Vatican.  "They" are the ones who have a duty to call out Francis, as have all Traditional clergy, including those still alive, such as +Williamson, +Vigano, +Sanborn, etc, etc.


"We the laity" are expected to do nothing in regards to the pope, except to ignore him and continue on worshipping God in the orthodox/Traditional rites.  "We the laity" have no authority to do anything, except to save our own souls and those of our family/friends.
"They" are told by the pope that even "they" may not judge the pope. The pope in cuм ex is telling to "them," warning "them" (all those mentioned) of their fate if they are so much as ever having been suspect of ever deviating from the faith, note that he never mentions "suspected by whom."

According to cuм ex, +Vigano, +Sanborn and every other cleric that has ever had anything whatsoever to do with the NO, are ALL suspect and have all deviated from the faith prior to finding tradition. As such.... 

"...They shall never at any time be able to be restored, returned, reinstated or rehabilitated......they shall have been sentenced to sequestration in any Monastery or other religious house in order to perform perpetual penance upon the bread of sorrow and the water of affliction;

that all such individuals also shall be held, treated and reputed as such by everyone, of whatsoever status, grade, order, condition or pre-eminence he may be and whatsoever excellence may be his, ...and as such must be avoided and must be deprived of the sympathy of all natural kindness..."

Offline Stubborn

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Re: Poll: cuм Ex - What did Pope Paul VI say we should do?
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2025, 02:58:23 PM »
I have no idea.
For you Seraphina:
1.In assessing Our duty and the situation now prevailing, We have been weighed upon by the thought that a matter of this kind [i.e. error in respect of the Faith] is so grave and so dangerous that the Roman Pontiff,who is the representative upon earth of God and our God and Lord Jesus Christ, who holds the fullness of power over peoples and kingdoms, who may judge all and be judged by none in this world, may nonetheless be contradicted if he be found to have deviated from the Faith. Remembering also that, where danger is greater, it must more fully and more diligently be counteracted. - Pope Paul IV, cuм ex Apostolatus Officio 1559