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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2019, 04:36:00 AM »
Quote from: Matthew on October 21, 2019, 03:23:24 PM
In a similar vein, there are a bunch of conservatives and almost-Trads who are falling all over themselves to criticize Pope Francis, while completely ignoring the fact that ALL the post-Vatican II popes were on the same page. They totally forget about Assisi, the violation of the First Commandment that that their precious JP2 committed.
Oh no, they haven't forgotten those things.  They just don't think they are the same. One such person said that certain of these issues were due to naivete. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2019, 05:25:51 AM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on October 22, 2019, 04:36:00 AM
Oh no, they haven't forgotten those things.  They just don't think they are the same. One such person said that certain of these issues were due to naivete.

I actually agree with this.  They put a different spin on the same activity because they are fooled by the false piety of St. John Paul II the Great.

It's like the Benedictivacantes who believe that Bergoglio is a manifest heretic, but that Ratzinger was somehow not ... even though (by Cardinal Kasper's own admission) their theology is exactly the same.  Benedict simply did a better job of pretending to be Catholic.  Wojtyla and Ratzinger were very skilled actors and performers.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2019, 05:29:49 AM »
Perhaps these gentlemen were Feeneyites (aka Catholics) ... since their statement equated lack of Baptism with lack of entrance into heaven (Catholic dogma that's universally denied these days even, alas, among Traditional Catholics).
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2019, 06:33:59 AM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on October 22, 2019, 04:36:00 AM
Oh no, they haven't forgotten those things.  They just don't think they are the same. One such person said that certain of these issues were due to naivete.
It’s so sad when people ignore reason so as not to upset the false paradigm they’ve grown accustomed to. Yeah, JPII was naive!  :laugh1:
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Offline CatholicInAmerica

Re: Pachamama idol thrown in the Tiber river!
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2019, 07:43:42 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on October 22, 2019, 05:29:49 AM
Perhaps these gentlemen were Feeneyites (aka Catholics) ... since their statement equated lack of Baptism with lack of entrance into heaven (Catholic dogma that's universally denied these days even, alas, among Traditional Catholics).
They could be just regular Catholics who believe in limbo.

If they are talking about infants^
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