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Offline Seraphina

Re: Can you force baptism on someone?
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2024, 11:57:08 AM »
No. Forced baptism by any means is invalid by defect of intent. 
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Offline AnthonyPadua

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Re: Can you force baptism on someone?
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2024, 04:59:35 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on December 31, 2024, 10:45:54 AM
No, someone who has the use of reason must consent to receive a sacrament and intend to receive it in order for it to be valid.
Quote from: Seraphina on December 31, 2024, 11:57:08 AM
No. Forced baptism by any means is invalid by defect of intent.
Ok that means Trent Session 6 Chapter 4 does not teach baptism of desire. Thanks for the answers. ;)
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Can you force baptism on someone?
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2025, 03:29:26 PM »
So, if one does not intend to receive it, it's invalid simpliciter.  If some other dispositions are lacking, e.g. secretly doesn't believe in the Church (doing it for, say, social reasons) or isn't repetent of sin (planning on continuing living in sin, for instance), etc. ... then the Sacrament is valid, in so far as it confers the Baptismal character, but it does not confer sanctifying grace (remission of sins, justification).  For the fomer, the Sacrament would be done absolutely, i.e. unconditionally ... unless, as St. Thomas stated, the intention was doubtful.  In the latter case, the individual could go to Confession to then receive the justification (forgiveness of sins, sanctifying grace) that should have come with the initial reception of the Sacrament.
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