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Offline Cantarella

Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #60 on: December 25, 2018, 11:37:10 PM »
Quote from: Conspiracy_Factist on December 25, 2018, 11:22:59 PM
# 2 can't be talking about judaism,muslims,buddhists since they are not baptised...I'm assuming it's referring to protestants..no?..
St. Thomas Aquinas, De Veritate, 14, A. 11, ad 1: Objection- “It is possible that someone may be brought up in the forest, or among wolves; such a man cannot explicitly know anything about the faith.  St. Thomas replies- It is the characteristic of Divine Providence to provide every man with what is necessary for salvation… provided on his part there is no hindrance.  In the case of a man who seeks good and shuns evil, by the leading of natural reason, God would either reveal to him through internal inspiration what had to be believed, or would send some preacher of the faith to him

Yes, some Protestants, and also Eastern Orthodox, exclusively.

Non-Christians are not baptized. Ben Shaphiro is not baptized.

St. Thomas Aquinas mentions the possibility of even sending an Angel before the moment of death if necessary, to a non Christian who perseveres in seeking truth and strives to follow the natural moral law. God then gives him the Grace to repent of sin, explicitly believe at least the most basic truths of our Catholic Faith, be validly baptized, and thus be able to reach salvation and attain the Beatific Vision.
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Offline Quid Retribuam Domino

Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #61 on: December 26, 2018, 12:31:18 AM »
Quote from: Conspiracy_Factist on December 25, 2018, 11:22:59 PM
# 2 can't be talking about judaism,muslims,buddhists since they are not baptised...I'm assuming it's referring to protestants..no?..
St. Thomas Aquinas, De Veritate, 14, A. 11, ad 1: Objection- “It is possible that someone may be brought up in the forest, or among wolves; such a man cannot explicitly know anything about the faith.  St. Thomas replies- It is the characteristic of Divine Providence to provide every man with what is necessary for salvation… provided on his part there is no hindrance.  In the case of a man who seeks good and shuns evil, by the leading of natural reason, God would either reveal to him through internal inspiration what had to be believed, or would send some preacher of the faith to him

Good point, but I was talking about validly baptized Protties or even Catholics who convert to Buddhism, Islam, New Age, Hinduism and, some, even convert to Judaism such as Trump's daughter.

It's a trend for Western sheeple to convert to these false religions. It's trendy to be Antichrist.
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Offline Incredulous

Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #62 on: December 26, 2018, 11:04:53 AM »
Quote from: poche on December 25, 2018, 10:50:49 PM
Any claim by Mr Shapiro's is based on his own ignorance. I think we should pray for his conversion every day and leave the judgement to God.
Poche,

Your posts border on the ludicrous.

Shapiro is very likely an Israeli trained agent, posing as a media conservative.
If you don't get what I'm saying, CNN's Wolf Blitzer, a Mossad news media operative is a pure play, Israeli propagandist.

So hear you are, on a traditional Catholic forum, feeling sympathy for Ben Shapiro "ignorance" and evangelizing us to pray for his conversion.  You lack discernment in that, Shapiro instead, should be admonished by Catholics for the тαℓмυdic heresy he's spreading over national news.  How many souls are being misled by such judaic trash theology?

Yes, we pray for our enemies, the jews and I'll bet over 90% of Cathinfo's forum members pray for the conversion of sinners.
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Offline JezusDeKoning

Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #63 on: December 26, 2018, 12:05:00 PM »
No one who maintains that much of a public presence is ignorant of the True Faith. It's not possible, and Ben Shapiro has no excuse.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Non-Believing Jew Ben Shapiro Gets a Free Pass to Heaven
« Reply #64 on: December 26, 2018, 02:18:53 PM »
Quote from: JezusDeKoning on December 22, 2018, 07:28:33 PM
Trying to reason with Poche or expecting him to utter even a modicuм of Catholic truth is like going to an aquarium, putting a copy of War and Peace in front of a dolphin and expecting it to read. Impossible.

So, could it be said that poche is invincibly ignorant about the Catholic faith ... despite the fact that he hangs out on a Traditional Catholic forum?   :confused:
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