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Offline trad123

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Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2021, 03:44:32 PM »
Quote from: Durango77 on March 14, 2021, 03:36:46 PM
St Alphonsus Doctor Of The Church says BOD is de fide.  Strangely I feel like there some who will not accept this.

You haven't been reading other threads in the Feeneyism Ghetto subforum, have you?

This thread also belongs in that subforum, not the Crisis in the Church.


https://www.cathinfo.com/baptism-of-desire-and-feeneyism/one-universal-church-of-the-faithful/

https://www.cathinfo.com/baptism-of-desire-and-feeneyism/vatican-ii-ecclesiology-and-cmri-sspx-sspv-etc/
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2021, 03:45:31 PM »
There’s a glaring mistake in using the example of the Holy Innocents, namely that they died before the Sacrament of Baptism was instituted.
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2021, 03:47:53 PM »
Quote from: Durango77 on March 14, 2021, 03:36:46 PM
So that settles the argument then I hope.  St Alphonsus Doctor Of The Church says BOD is de fide.  Strangely I feel like there some who will not accept this.
St. Alphonsus Ligouri and ALL the Fathers, Doctors, and Saints, rejected salvation by implicit faith, that is the salvation of the Muslim, Jҽωs, Hindus, Buddhists, which I am certain is what you believe. So you reject the very saint that you bring forward. 
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Offline trad123

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Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2021, 03:51:04 PM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 14, 2021, 03:47:53 PM
St. Alphonsus Ligouri and ALL the Fathers, Doctors, and Saints, rejected salvation by implicit faith, that is the salvation of the Muslim, Jҽωs, Hindus, Buddhists which I am certain is what you believe. So you reject the very saint that you bring forward.

This needs to be stated, over and over. It can never be stated too many times.

One either confesses the Athanasius Creed or not. There is no middle ground.
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Offline Durango77

Re: New St. Alphonsus Quotes on Implicit BOD
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2021, 04:02:50 PM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 14, 2021, 03:47:53 PM
St. Alphonsus Ligouri and ALL the Fathers, Doctors, and Saints, rejected salvation by implicit faith, that is the salvation of the Muslim, Jҽωs, Hindus, Buddhists, which I am certain is what you believe. So you reject the very saint that you bring forward.
Certain that I believe what? 
 I assent to the teaching of the Church, council of Trent says baptism or its desire right, thats a direct quote right?  How that actually works in practice I don't know and don't care thats between God and an unbaptized person.  Why there is all this back and forth about this topic, that is essentially meaningless to anyone who is reading threads here due to already being baptized, is beyond me.
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