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New Pope already preaching nonsense
« on: May 10, 2025, 07:00:23 AM »
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  • Remember Pope Francis, "Who am I to judge?" Well, the new Pope just dropped his own equivalent of this, equally infamous:

    "Jesus isn't Superman"

    In an article by "John Johnson" (note: Sean is the Irish version of the name John. Not saying this was by Sean Johnson, I'm just saying it because we used to have a "John Johnson" of sorts here on CI)

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/society-culture-and-history/religion-and-spirituality/new-pope-jesus-isn-t-superman/ar-AA1Euk8g?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Pope Leo XIV celebrated his first Mass on Friday as head of the Catholic Church. Some highlights of key lines and moments:
    ・Leo fretted about the image of Jesus, among both non-believers and baptized Christians, per Vatican News. "There are many settings in which Jesus, although appreciated as a man, is reduced to a kind of charismatic leader or superman." The UK Times reads this as an apparent reference to evangelical Christians.

    ・The first American pope in history also warned that much of the world lived "in a state of de facto atheism," reports the Wall Street Journal. "There are many settings in which the Christian faith is considered absurd, meant for the weak and unintelligent. Settings where other securities are preferred, like technology, money, success, power, or pleasure," he said. "They are the places where our missionary outreach is desperately needed."
    ・This loss of faith has contributed to "appalling violations of human dignity" throughout the world, he said, per the New York Times.
    ・The AP notes that two women delivered readings, possibly a sign that Leo will continue Francis' efforts to expand the role of women in the church. He also wore "simple black shoes," like Francis, skipping red ones favored by traditionalist popes, notes the outlet.
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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #1 on: May 10, 2025, 12:14:08 PM »
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  • Well he didn't say "Jesus isn't superman", he says that many "believers" and non-believers reduce Jesus to a superman, i.e. they just believe He was some guy who had magical powers rather than God.

    So this seems like a totally reasonable thing to say. He's condemning people who reduce Jesus from God to superhero.


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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #2 on: May 10, 2025, 12:54:58 PM »
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  • Yeah ... we are still very early in this situation so it's hard to make any predictions, but what I have seen so far is that this guy probably won't do a whole lot of talking, and when he does say something it will be gobbledegook like this that nobody will understand and therefore everyone will just ignore it.

    It won't be like Francis who insulted and degraded every basic, decent human being on this planet literally every time he opened his mouth.

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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #3 on: May 10, 2025, 01:39:02 PM »
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  • I’m not sure I understand the objection to what he said.  He is saying that Christ should NOT be reduced to some kind of superhero, He is far more than that, He is God incarnate.

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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #4 on: May 10, 2025, 02:12:02 PM »
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  • Yes, after some thought, it isn't as bad as it sounds initially.

    It's hard to know what he meant at first though, you have to admit. And I always consider "What would the 50% of people think, who don't click on the article?" -- that is a very important consideration. Because it's a FACT that many people never go deeper than the headline. So if it leaves a vague impression, some impression *contradicted* by the article, etc. that doesn't matter -- because 1/2 or more people won't even read the article behind the headline.

    AND -- at the very least, he's engaging in shock statements, kind of like clickbait. I've seen so much of this from the last couple Popes. It gets so tiresome.
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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #5 on: May 10, 2025, 02:20:39 PM »
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  • I’m not sure I understand the objection to what he said.  He is saying that Christ should NOT be reduced to some kind of superhero, He is far more than that, He is God incarnate.
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    ^^^ This is a perfect example of my point, that when this guy talks it will be so weird that nobody will be able to understand what he's talking about. Eventually people tune out someone like that.

    I think the days of Bergoglio's "gαy is good!" clarity are over.

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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #6 on: May 10, 2025, 03:40:56 PM »
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  • This is probably the biggest load of word salad I've ever heard ... making even Kamala hαɾɾιs sound intelligible and intelligent by comparison.  OK, well may not, but he's close ....  Is he high on weed when he made this statement?

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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #7 on: May 10, 2025, 03:46:06 PM »
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  • This is a close second, showing that the above was no aberration.


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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #8 on: May 10, 2025, 03:51:13 PM »
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  • So, when we were younger, before we became Traditional Catholics, my brothers and I composed something we called the "Community Poem", which featured the typical Novus Ordo word salad types of phrases and concepts.  Then, when my younger brother was appyling to the Jesuit High School there in Cleveland, the local parish was offering a small scholarship that was awarded for an essay.

    So we got together and wrote this masterpiece of absurd word salad that was so over-the-top ridiculous that we were literally rolling around on the floor laughing and while I can't remember too much of it form 40+ years ago, it included phrases like "community of sharing and caring" and "rainbows of diversity".

    He won the scholarship ... and he was told it was one of the best esaays ever submitted.

    We were literally gobsmacked ... having thought that Steve would be reprimanded, since this stuff was SO over the top (even by their standards) that we were sure that they would see it for the obvious satire that it was.

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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #9 on: May 10, 2025, 04:19:50 PM »
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  • This is probably the biggest load of word salad I've ever heard ... making even Kamala hαɾɾιs sound intelligible and intelligent by comparison.  OK, well may not, but he's close ....  Is he high on weed when he made this statement?

    No mention of Jesus Christ. 
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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #10 on: May 10, 2025, 04:50:19 PM »
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  • He has been preaching nonsense. 

    May God bless you and keep you


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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #11 on: May 10, 2025, 04:52:26 PM »
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  • How many baby murdered by abortion, Robert Prevost??

    How many children raped by priests? 


    White washed by thoughts and prayers??
    And you reposted this anti Catholic lie, Mr. Prevost?  If people repented and believed in the one true God, there would be far less people abusing weapons.  Thou shalt not kill. 



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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #12 on: May 10, 2025, 05:12:50 PM »
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  • This is probably the biggest load of word salad I've ever heard ... making even Kamala hαɾɾιs sound intelligible and intelligent by comparison.  OK, well may not, but he's close ....  Is he high on weed when he made this statement?



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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #13 on: May 10, 2025, 10:56:53 PM »
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  • Always remember prevost agrees with Vatican 2. If he was a Catholic he would have burned the docuмents of Vatican 2 in St Peter’s square. 
    Vatican 2 was worse than both WW1 and WW2 combined.
    So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

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    Re: New Pope already preaching nonsense
    « Reply #14 on: May 10, 2025, 11:15:53 PM »
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  • What kind of satanic "pectoral cross" is that? Where is the corpus? Why is it not even a cross, more of a plus sign?
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