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Author Topic: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020  (Read 8984 times)

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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #40 on: August 03, 2020, 11:20:11 AM »
Quote from: Tradman on August 03, 2020, 11:05:15 AM
I've since talked to other seminarians in order to get clarity. All were in agreement, although each had his own description. Basically, the MC caught the error and warned the bishop(s). Pfeiffer dismissed the warning and said everything was ok.  Discussion ensued. They reviewed the recording and reconsecrated.  Pfeiffer says a reconsecration was done when he spoke the following day at the sermon at the diaconate.  I agree it would be nice to see a statement from Bishop Webster but I'm no longer in doubt about whether or not Pfeiffer is a bishop.    
It begs the question: Why would they publish a video that contains obvious errors without a rider explaining the correction?
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Offline Tradman

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Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #41 on: August 03, 2020, 11:37:20 AM »
Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on August 03, 2020, 11:20:11 AM
It begs the question: Why would they publish a video that contains obvious errors without a rider explaining the correction?
Aren't we talking Pfeiffer?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2020, 11:44:25 AM »
Quote from: Tradman on August 03, 2020, 11:05:15 AM
I've since talked to other seminarians in order to get clarity. All were in agreement, although each had his own description. Basically, the MC caught the error and warned the bishop(s). Pfeiffer dismissed the warning and said everything was ok.  Discussion ensued. They reviewed the recording and reconsecrated.  Pfeiffer says a reconsecration was done when he spoke the following day at the sermon at the diaconate.  I agree it would be nice to see a statement from Bishop Webster but I'm no longer in doubt about whether or not Pfeiffer is a bishop.    

That bolded statement is the only thing there that has a ring of truth about it.

I'm still in doubt.

Did everybody hang around for hours after the long ceremony discussing and reviewing the video?  It takes a while to find it and to review it.  Was the video immediately available for playback?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2020, 11:48:01 AM »
Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on August 03, 2020, 11:20:11 AM
It begs the question: Why would they publish a video that contains obvious errors without a rider explaining the correction?

EXACTLY RIGHT.  They published the video right away because they did not notice the error.

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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Live: Tonsure Minor Orders Subdeacons Deacon July 31, 2020
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2020, 11:56:19 AM »
Quote from: Tradman on August 02, 2020, 08:12:58 PM
I actually talked to the MC that said he caught the irregularity of the words Bishop Webster and because of that, they reconsecrated afterward. 
Tradman, in this particular case, where there is indisputable evidence which proves he received a doubtful/invalid consecration, word of mouth that this was corrected is not good enough to serve as proof, not by any stretch. As it is now, now he *has to* provide evidence of validity.   
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