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Author Topic: Is there a One Ring in Tradition, to rule them all?  (Read 30142 times)

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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: Is there a One Ring in Tradition, to rule them all?
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2019, 03:40:55 PM »
"By their deeds you shall know them".

Those seeking truth without seeking fortune, popularity, fame, accolades, relief from guilt of sin...….. will find truth and spiritual success in themselves and their children (their deeds), that is the sign I look for in groups like Novus Ordo, Indult, Fraternity, SSPX, Sedes.

The success % in the Novus Ordo is atrocious, like maybe 1%

The success in the Indult and Fraternity was considerable less than in the SSPX, but the SSPX today is going the way of the Fraternity, in a few years there will be no difference.

The success of the SSPX is less than the Sede groups.
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Offline SeanJohnson

Re: Is there a One Ring in Tradition, to rule them all?
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2019, 03:45:01 PM »
R&R is that ring.
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Offline SimpleMan

Re: Is there a One Ring in Tradition, to rule them all?
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2019, 04:31:20 PM »
Quote from: Admin on August 31, 2019, 02:02:00 PM
FSSP: "What Conservative Novus Ordo said, but also the New Mass is defective and dangerous at least. We will play it safe and only say the Tridentine Mass and use the Rites that were used before Vatican II. Vatican II was extremely problematic at best. We will train our priests in separate seminaries so they get a fully Traditional or pre-Vatican II formation. We're OK with the new Rites of consecration and ordination, however."
Does the FSSP go that far?  I didn't think they were permitted to teach that the Novus Ordo is, as you put it, "defective and dangerous", nor that Vatican II was "extremely problematic".
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Offline forlorn

Re: Is there a One Ring in Tradition, to rule them all?
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2019, 05:24:57 AM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on August 31, 2019, 03:45:01 PM
R&R is that ring.
SSPX or Resistance? 
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Offline Hodie

Re: Is there a One Ring in Tradition, to rule them all?
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2019, 06:11:03 AM »
After Almighty God Himself, Archbishop Lefebvre holds "the ring." Every single traditional group who deviated from his guidance or never followed it in the first place, has compromised in some way with Vatican II/modernism. Sad.
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