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Author Topic: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?  (Read 25196 times)

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Offline epiphany

Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #75 on: May 15, 2022, 06:54:49 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 15, 2022, 06:19:09 PM
Epiphany you’re drinking the V2 koolaid.  Hope it’s good.

Only certain deceits, very minimal, are invalidating per canon law.
1917
Can. 1098 A person contracts invalidly who enters into a marriage deceived by malice, perpetrated to obtain consent, concerning some quality of the other partner which by its very nature can gravely disturb the partnership of conjugal life.

There are other reasons allowed for legit annulment pre-vat II, but deceit of a serious nature is one of them.
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Offline Yeti

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Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #76 on: May 15, 2022, 06:56:55 PM »
Quote from: josefamenendez on May 15, 2022, 05:50:25 PM
I suspect they are
Yes, they are. They are from the JP2 1983 Code of Canon Law. They are not part of traditional Catholic faith, morals or canon law.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #77 on: May 15, 2022, 07:23:01 PM »

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Can. 1098 A person contracts invalidly who enters into a marriage deceived by malice, perpetrated to obtain consent, concerning some quality of the other partner which by its very nature can gravely disturb the partnership of conjugal life.
Ok, this is a good start.  But you can't read 1 canon in isolation.  Keep reading.


Or...you can read pre-V2 commentary on canon law, like Yeti posted, and take their advice.
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Offline Yeti

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Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #78 on: May 15, 2022, 07:38:00 PM »
Quote from: epiphany on May 15, 2022, 06:54:49 PM
1917
Can. 1098 A person contracts invalidly who enters into a marriage deceived by malice, perpetrated to obtain consent, concerning some quality of the other partner which by its very nature can gravely disturb the partnership of conjugal life.

There are other reasons allowed for legit annulment pre-vat II, but deceit of a serious nature is one of them.
This is not from the 1917 Code of Canon Law at all. It is Canon 1098 in the JP2, 1983 Code of Canon Law.

And again, this is contradicted by what I quoted, in that pre-Vatican 2 theologian who is just giving the teaching and practice of the Church.
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Offline Yeti

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Re: Is There a Legitimate Way for Trads to get an Annulment?
« Reply #79 on: May 15, 2022, 07:39:08 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 15, 2022, 07:23:01 PM
Ok, this is a good start.  But you can't read 1 canon in isolation.  Keep reading.


Or...you can read pre-V2 commentary on canon law, like Yeti posted, and take their advice.
It's not a start at all, it's a quote from the 1983 code of canon law. Obviously such a statement does not occur in the 1917 code or in any pre-Vatican 2 authority.
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