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Infallibility of Canonizations
« on: July 08, 2013, 09:13:12 AM »
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Infallibility of canonisations

Pope Benedict XIV, "If anyone dared to assert that the Pontiff had erred in this or that canonisation, we shall say that he is, if not a heretic, at least temerarious, a giver of scandal to the whole Church, an insulter of the saints, a favourer of those heretics who deny the Church’s authority in canonizing saints, savouring of heresy by giving unbelievers an occasion to mock the faithful, the assertor of an erroneous opinion and liable to very grave penalties.” (Translated by John Daly).

Quoted by Tanquerey, "Synopsis Theologiae Dogmaticae Fundamentalis," (Paris, Tournai, Rome: Desclee, 1937) new edition ed. by J.B. Bord, Vol. I. p. 624, footnote 2, "Nonnulli contenderunt hoc esse de fide, sed Benedictus XIV, De servorum Dei Beatific. et Canonizatione, I. I, c. 45, n. 28, post expensa utriusque opinionis argumenta, his verbis concludit: 'Si non haereticuм, temerarium tamen, scandalem toti Ecclesiae afferentem, in Sanctos injuriosum, faventem haereticis negantibus auctoritatem Ecclesiae in canonizatione Sanctorum, sapientem haeresim, utpote viam sternentem infidelibus ad irridendum fideles, assertorem erroneae opinionis et gravissimis poenis obnoxium dicemus eum qui auderet asserere Pontificem in hac aut illa canonizatione errasse.' - Contra sententiam communem, P. Viollet, cf. Etudes, 20 Avril 1905, multos congerit textus, ex quibus tantum sequitur illam sententiam non esse unanimem.


Viollet, of course, is the author of "Papal Infallibility and the Syllabus," which was placed on the Index during the reign of St. Pius X (Decree, 5 April 1906.)

Infallibility of Canonizations
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2013, 11:24:34 AM »
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Infallibility of canonisations

Pope Benedict XIV, "If anyone dared to assert that the Pontiff had erred in this or that canonisation, we shall say that he is, if not a heretic, at least temerarious, a giver of scandal to the whole Church, an insulter of the saints, a favourer of those heretics who deny the Church’s authority in canonizing saints, savouring of heresy by giving unbelievers an occasion to mock the faithful, the assertor of an erroneous opinion and liable to very grave penalties.” (Translated by John Daly).

Quoted by Tanquerey, "Synopsis Theologiae Dogmaticae Fundamentalis," (Paris, Tournai, Rome: Desclee, 1937) new edition ed. by J.B. Bord, Vol. I. p. 624, footnote 2, "Nonnulli contenderunt hoc esse de fide, sed Benedictus XIV, De servorum Dei Beatific. et Canonizatione, I. I, c. 45, n. 28, post expensa utriusque opinionis argumenta, his verbis concludit: 'Si non haereticuм, temerarium tamen, scandalem toti Ecclesiae afferentem, in Sanctos injuriosum, faventem haereticis negantibus auctoritatem Ecclesiae in canonizatione Sanctorum, sapientem haeresim, utpote viam sternentem infidelibus ad irridendum fideles, assertorem erroneae opinionis et gravissimis poenis obnoxium dicemus eum qui auderet asserere Pontificem in hac aut illa canonizatione errasse.' - Contra sententiam communem, P. Viollet, cf. Etudes, 20 Avril 1905, multos congerit textus, ex quibus tantum sequitur illam sententiam non esse unanimem.


Viollet, of course, is the author of "Papal Infallibility and the Syllabus," which was placed on the Index during the reign of St. Pius X (Decree, 5 April 1906.)


Which is why, disregarding the heresies of the Apostate Council and of the announcements of the conciliarist usurpers of the Holy Seat, ignoring their blasphemous and scandalous actions and words, I need nothing more than to see the caliber of those unworthy souls they presume to raise to the altars of God to know they are not successors of Peter.


Infallibility of Canonizations
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2013, 12:15:12 PM »
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Infallibility of canonisations

Pope Benedict XIV, "If anyone dared to assert that the Pontiff had erred in this or that canonisation, we shall say that he is, if not a heretic, at least temerarious, a giver of scandal to the whole Church, an insulter of the saints, a favourer of those heretics who deny the Church’s authority in canonizing saints, savouring of heresy by giving unbelievers an occasion to mock the faithful, the assertor of an erroneous opinion and liable to very grave penalties.” (Translated by John Daly).

Quoted by Tanquerey, "Synopsis Theologiae Dogmaticae Fundamentalis," (Paris, Tournai, Rome: Desclee, 1937) new edition ed. by J.B. Bord, Vol. I. p. 624, footnote 2, "Nonnulli contenderunt hoc esse de fide, sed Benedictus XIV, De servorum Dei Beatific. et Canonizatione, I. I, c. 45, n. 28, post expensa utriusque opinionis argumenta, his verbis concludit: 'Si non haereticuм, temerarium tamen, scandalem toti Ecclesiae afferentem, in Sanctos injuriosum, faventem haereticis negantibus auctoritatem Ecclesiae in canonizatione Sanctorum, sapientem haeresim, utpote viam sternentem infidelibus ad irridendum fideles, assertorem erroneae opinionis et gravissimis poenis obnoxium dicemus eum qui auderet asserere Pontificem in hac aut illa canonizatione errasse.' - Contra sententiam communem, P. Viollet, cf. Etudes, 20 Avril 1905, multos congerit textus, ex quibus tantum sequitur illam sententiam non esse unanimem.


Viollet, of course, is the author of "Papal Infallibility and the Syllabus," which was placed on the Index during the reign of St. Pius X (Decree, 5 April 1906.)


Which is why, disregarding the heresies of the Apostate Council and of the announcements of the conciliarist usurpers of the Holy Seat, ignoring their blasphemous and scandalous actions and words, I need nothing more than to see the caliber of those unworthy souls they presume to raise to the altars of God to know they are not successors of Peter.


Amen!

I think they would "canonize" the devil himself if they thought they could get away with it (it might be too early for that, but the time may come if God does not intervene, nothing can surprise me anymore).  But they watered down the exorcism rite to make it ineffective so that's a step in the right direction, from the perspective of the Devil that is.

It is interesting with all the Popes between Pius V and Pius X that none were more worthy than Roncalli and Wojtyla.  Mind-boggling.  And a majority in the protestant novus ordo sect hail these "canonizations" and pray to them.  "JP2 the Great" and what not.  And some in the SSPX want to be included under the roof of these apostates.

Truth really is stranger than fiction.  These things could not even be imagined had they not actually happened.

Infallibility of Canonizations
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2013, 12:48:53 PM »
I agree that this is a serious problem with which people will have to grapple. To simply declare, as many have, that the post-conciliar canonizations are not reliable begs the question if the magisterium that one claims to submit to can do ANYTHING fostering holiness.

Infallibility of Canonizations
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2013, 01:34:26 PM »
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I agree that this is a serious problem with which people will have to grapple. To simply declare, as many have, that the post-conciliar canonizations are not reliable begs the question if the magisterium that one claims to submit to can do ANYTHING fostering holiness.


VERY well put.