Author Topic: I apologize for attacking the CMRI as a whole for promoting Father Cekadas (Read 10374 times)

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #5 on:** July 22, 2010, 08:27:46 PM »

Quote from: Elizabeth

:chef:Don't fall for it, Sedetrad. Roman Catholic really does not want you to name names.

Eliz, you seem like you are just stirring the pot with your cooks hat and are itching for a fight. But you know the saying about too many cooks.

Just settle down Eliz, and think straight about it. I never asked you to name anyone, and you know it. Otherwise show me where I asked you to. I can show you where I said I did not want you to name anyone.

I asked Sedetrad to come up with the goods and name names, because he is presuming to speak specifically on behalf of of a some individuals in a small group of traditional Catholic priests.

Can you see the difference??

Do you think CMRI as a whole and as individual priests want him to be saying that he is "sure many good priests in the CMRI feel the same as I about Father Cekada and his book"?

Do you think he is qualified to say?

C'mon sedetrad...

SJB · « **Reply #6 on:** July 22, 2010, 08:36:35 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Is he (Fr. Cekada) really joking about Schiavo being fed "ice chips and jello"? Does this man have any sense of propriety? I can make jokes like that on CathInfo, not that I would about a subject like this, but he is a priest responding to a concerned parishioner about a volatile controversy.

Also, what does a man starving his wife have to do with "domestic and paternal authority"? Then he tries to defend his opinion on the Schiavo case by making it look like he's standing up for the family, with the line, once again inappropriate, "compromise on that principle, and the family is toast."

Fr. Cekada is not a serious writer. That was my point in comparing his treatment of the Schiavo case with Fr. Iscara's (SSPX) treatment of the issue of ordinary/extraordinary means.

It is also interesting to note that it appears that Bp. Sanborn had gently distanced himself from the Cekada/Dolan position on Schiavo. Apparently, a parishoner had informed Bp. Sanborn that a priest had given Terri Schiavo communion and she was able to consume the species. Bp. Sanborn admitted that that fact "changes everything".

SJB · « **Reply #7 on:** July 22, 2010, 08:48:06 PM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

Quote from: Elizabeth
:chef:Don't fall for it, Sedetrad. Roman Catholic really does not want you to name names.

Eliz, you seem like you are just stirring the pot with your cooks hat and are itching for a fight. But you know the saying about too many cooks.

Just settle down Eliz, and think straight about it. I never asked you to name anyone, and you know it. Otherwise show me where I asked you to. I can show you where I said I did not want you to name anyone.

I asked Sedetrad to come up with the goods and name names, because he is presuming to speak specifically on behalf of of a some individuals in a small group of traditional Catholic priests.

Can you see the difference??

Do you think CMRI as a whole and as individual priests want him to be saying that he is "sure many good priests in the CMRI feel the same as I about Father Cekada and his book"?

Do you think he is qualified to say?

C'mon sedetrad...

I think the frustration of many is that while no trad priests will defend Fr. Cekada/Bp. Dolan, nobody will stand up and condemn their actions either. There is this ridiculous notion that the truth will "hurt the Church".

Elizabeth · « **Reply #8 on:** July 22, 2010, 09:05:04 PM »

SJB, that notion has been ridiculous for 2,000 years.

Some traddy clergy just need to repent and take long vacations-stay away from schools and the limelight.

Ha, if they were honest, they'd see why the Novus Ordo have tried to save face.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2010, 09:06:03 PM »

Quote from: SJB

Quote from: Roman Catholic
Quote from: Elizabeth
:chef:Don't fall for it, Sedetrad. Roman Catholic really does not want you to name names.

Eliz, you seem like you are just stirring the pot with your cooks hat and are itching for a fight. But you know the saying about too many cooks.

Just settle down Eliz, and think straight about it. I never asked you to name anyone, and you know it. Otherwise show me where I asked you to. I can show you where I said I did not want you to name anyone.

I asked Sedetrad to come up with the goods and name names, because he is presuming to speak specifically on behalf of of a some individuals in a small group of traditional Catholic priests.

Can you see the difference??

Do you think CMRI as a whole and as individual priests want him to be saying that he is "sure many good priests in the CMRI feel the same as I about Father Cekada and his book"?

Do you think he is qualified to say?

C'mon sedetrad...

I think the frustration of many is that while no trad priests will defend Fr. Cekada/Bp. Dolan, nobody will stand up and condemn their actions either. There is this ridiculous notion that the truth will "hurt the Church".

Nevertheless no one should say "I am sure many good priests in the CMRI feel the same as I about Father Cekada and his book" unless he can susbstantiate his stated certainty.

And if sedetrad is so sure, he must have reasons and evidence for being so sure... unless he is just spouting off and is not really sure at all.