Do not respond to women who debate (No problem answering the ladies who ask questions sincerely). Some men debate like women, taking everything personal, do not let them get your goat, they are like children. Would you debate with a child?
Your last paragraph in the OP reads like the perfect example of how to derail a thread, the very thing you are complaining about.
Ironic. Plenty of men debate like children at CI.
Here's an idea: don't treat women like second class citizens for no reason, and you won't start a food fight.