Author Topic: Groups, personalities - complete map of Sedevacantist world (Read 32297 times)

Matthew · « **on:** February 01, 2012, 01:01:47 PM »

Let's form a comprehensive list of ALL the groups/personas/movements in the Sedevacantist world.

By "Sedevacantist" I mean all those who deny that the man Joseph Ratzinger is the current Pope. So this would include adherents of the Siri thesis, for example.

Say a person DID want to consider Sedevacantism. If we wanted to help him, and we were totally detached/honest and wanted to be thorough, who should this person be informed about (so he could pick his "flavor") or even be warned against?

I'll start the brainstorming session:
(In no particular order)

CMRI and its allies/affiliated groups (in Mexico, etc.)
SSPV
Fr. Moderator and his dubious priesthood -- slander, etc. on Traditio
Lucio Mascarenhas and all the extreme dogmatic Sedes in India
Richard Ibranyi
Anti-Popes (Michael I, etc.)
Followers of the Siri thesis
Feeneyites
Bp. Dolan/Fr. Cekada
Bishop Sanborn & Seminary
Fr. Ramolla & Seminary
Eamon Shea/SJB
VOVwatch
John Lane, St. Robert Bellarmine forum
Omlor family
Joseph Charles McKenzie, Rob Sheehan (allies of Dolan/Cekada)
Gerry Matatics
Hutton Gibson
The Four Marks newspaper
Dr. Tom Droleskey, Christ or Chaos website
Bp. Petko
Bp. McKenna
Ryan Scott
David Landry ("CM", "Catholic Martyr") & Frank Pagnanelli -- dogmatic Sede/home-aloners; they know of no other Catholics than their two families, though they don't deny others might exist.
Dogmatic Home-aloners (all priests, even Sede, are not valid for some reason)
Dimond Brothers/Most Holy Family Monastery
Apostles of Infinite Love (Canada)
The Daughters of Mary Mother of Our Savior

This is the second attempt -- the first thread dissolved in 5 directions.
I'm not interested in what you think of my little project.

Any posts that criticize my project, try to philosophize, or go off topic in any way will be deleted with no warning. So please stay ON-TOPIC. Thank you.

And to all the sedevacantists out there -- the goal of this project is NOT to point at the finished list and say, "Look at this! How ridiculous is sedevacantism!" I'm looking for *all* personas and groups -- both the good, and those which most Sedes wish would disappear. I'm looking for OBJECTIVE TRUTH AND REALITY here. The objective reality is that guys like the Dimond brothers exist, and are major players in the Sede world.

Thorn · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2012, 01:37:49 PM »

Apostles of Infinite Love (in Canada)

Elizabeth · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2012, 01:46:54 PM »

The Daughters of Mary Mother of Our Savior

Congregation of SSPV

an old SV community in Mexico, very long-lived (but of course the name escapes me)

Elizabeth · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2012, 05:53:57 PM »

Mario Derksen, former author of Novus Ordo Watch and present author of a study on the Thuc line

MyrnaM · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2012, 07:45:19 PM »

I would certainly want them to be able to receive the Sacraments. So I would tell them to look into groups that can give them these Sacraments.

I doubt I would recommend the Diamond Brothers, they can't offer the Sacraments in fact I heard they attend a Byzantine Rite.

Yes, I would recommend they subscribe to the Four Marks publication, and I would pass along some great web sites, CMRI web site for start.
http://www.cmri.org/ There they can read all about the sedevacantist position, and find some other great links for information.