Author Topic: Father Malachi Martin (Read 35770 times)

Elizabeth · « **Reply #5 on:** December 13, 2011, 08:13:23 AM »

I seriously cannot believe that any one would cite Grasamier's slander campaign on Fr. Martin as credible.

For starters-just for starters- he banned scorers of people who offered legitimate evidence contrary to his own admitted agenda. He also erased all of Gerard's excellent research and proofs to the contrary. Grasimier is not credible. Only one who knew he could not back up his claims would resort to such intellectually dishonest tactics.

Certainly we can agree that anyone in possession of irrefutable evidence, facts and so forth would never need to resort to banning each person who presented evidence to the contrary!

Nobody ever proves the calumnies against Fr. Martin. He was heavily involved in exposing V2 satanists and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ predators. He made deadly enemies in doing so, and some of his colleagues were murdered for their efforts.

Fr. Martin was a pre-V2 Jesuit, before he got special permission to be released from his order and write a scathing critique of the modern Society of Jesus. If we understand a little bit about the Jesuits, we may safely say Jesuit=double agent under the strictest obedience.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #6 on:** December 13, 2011, 08:21:31 AM »

Quote from: GertrudetheGreat

But I maintain that the material I am pointing you towards is an exception. The reason is that unlike on every other subject, where people are allowed to make anything up that they like, and father it on the Church (as long as it doesn't tend to the discredit of the particular political positions favoured by the moderators), in this particular case John Grasmeir actually did some original research, obtained docuмents which had not hitherto been available publicly, interviewed primary witnesses, and published the results.

I am not advising you to accept whatever he has discovered on faith. But I would say that anybody who professes to desire the facts about Martin would read that material with great interest.

Here's the (main) thread: http://www.angelqueen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14932

Mr. Grasmeir banned each person who brought research contrary to his agenda, or who defended Fr. Martin, and he erased all evidence contra to his theory.

So one should read the edited version of the material with great skepticism.

GertrudetheGreat · « **Reply #7 on:** December 13, 2011, 08:53:50 AM »

Elizabeth,

I'm sorry, but Martin was a heretic, openly, clearly, on any number of subjects. He was also a pathological liar, as many testified who knew him.

And I suggest that you just read the docuмents. Don't worry about the commentary.

s2srea · « **Reply #8 on:** December 13, 2011, 08:56:59 AM »

Well said Elizabeth! :applause:

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #9 on:** December 13, 2011, 09:38:55 AM »

Gertrude, I don't consider Grasmeir very credible either, for obvious reasons.

Also, how was Fr. Malachi Martin a heretic? Can you prove that?