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Offline ByzCat3000

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Re: Father Cekada Dying
« Reply #60 on: September 11, 2020, 08:59:22 PM »
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    • Quote from: Meg on September 11, 2020, 11:23:07 AM
    Perhaps you are right. Wouldn't want to put a damper on the canonization of St. Cekada, patron saint of the sedes and their supporters.

    Praying for his soul is a good a very good thing to do. That doesn't mean that he hasn't led souls into serious error.
    It just seems like the wrong time to jump on that.  We needn't canonize him.  A simple "i'll pray for his soul" would make sense.

    That said I did take note of one comment that said Fr. Cekada himself would've appreciated the dark humor.  If that's true, per those who know him, than that's fair enough
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #61 on: September 11, 2020, 09:51:22 PM »
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    • R.I.P, good father, for giving us guidance on the evils of the NO mass.
    http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2020/09/fr-anthony-cekada-rip.html#.X1w3Rd9OlTs
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #62 on: September 11, 2020, 11:19:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 11, 2020, 03:13:43 PM
    No he has died PER Twitter, i.e. based on information someone found from a reliable source (Bishop Dolan) on Twitter.
    May his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace. Amen.
    :pray: :pray: :pray:
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #63 on: September 12, 2020, 05:04:57 AM »
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    • Although I firmly believe Fr. Cekada was in error on many (not all) issues, it is because one of the posts in this thread confirmed that "he died well fortified by the Sacraments of the Church", which certainly must mean that he received the sacrament of Extreme Unction before he died, and it is on this account that I believe, and I think per the Church that we can now all believe that he escaped hell and died as one of the faithful departed, thanks to that sacrament.

    Just pray daily for his soul.  







     

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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #64 on: September 12, 2020, 09:23:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: ByzCat3000 on September 11, 2020, 08:59:22 PM
    It just seems like the wrong time to jump on that.  We needn't canonize him.  A simple "i'll pray for his soul" would make sense.

    That said I did take note of one comment that said Fr. Cekada himself would've appreciated the dark humor.  If that's true, per those who know him, than that's fair enough

    Thank you for your charitable response. I appreciate that.

    It might be a the wrong time to jump on this.....IF.... it weren't for the fact that Fr. Cekada was a dogmatic sedevacantist, which is opposed to the view of the Resistance.

    Here's another way to put it. If a Modernist priest in the conciliar church were to die, would he receive the same positive reaction as has been done here? Because dogmatic sedevacantism is just the other side of the coin from modernism. Modernism and dogmatic sedevacantism are two sides of the same coin. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't pray for him (and I would never ever say that we shouldn't). I do pray for the souls in purgatory, and I know how important it is to do so. But one must be realistic.

    And I'm fairly certain that Fr. Cekada was banned from this forum. He wasn't all that charitable when pushing his views on dogmatic sedevacantism.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #65 on: September 12, 2020, 09:33:25 AM »
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    • Meg, a Catholic comment worthy of consideration.  

    It did not justify a "thumbs-down".


    This just bolsters the charge that "Sedes are mean people."


    As they sometimes say at my work place... "Stop the hate!"  :incense:
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #66 on: September 12, 2020, 10:44:51 AM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on September 12, 2020, 09:33:25 AM

    Meg, a Catholic comment worthy of consideration.  

    It did not justify a "thumbs-down".


    This just bolsters the charge that "Sedes are mean people."


    As they sometimes say at my work place... "Stop the hate!"  :incense:
    To be clear, I didn’t down vote Meg. Incredulous, make no mistake, dogmatic R&R trads are just as “mean” as the dogmatic sedevacantists.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #67 on: September 12, 2020, 12:12:20 PM »
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    • I wish to add that I have not forgotten the one time that Fr. Cekada called into the Catholic Answers radio show, several years ago.  it was hosted by Patrick Coffin, and I believe that PC was accompanied on that show by Tim Staples.  The discussion at some point drifted toward SV'ism, although it might not have started there.  (That part I don't remember.)  But Father called, introduced himself, and in a very charitable, non-hostile tone began to explain his position, without rancor.  They cut him off pretty quickly (initially pretending to give him a platform, then quickly retrieving it), and after they cut him off, they both ridiculed him.  This from the "more charitable" branch of Catholicism:  the Novus Ordo movement, where authority and orthodoxy are defined as hatred, but apparently ridicule is defined as charity.

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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #68 on: September 12, 2020, 12:57:58 PM »
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    • The speed and intensity of the above "thumbs-down" from our sede members, proves my point.







        The Sedes MO is very proud and sensitive to differing points of discussion.

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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #69 on: September 12, 2020, 12:59:48 PM »
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    • The only time they smile is when you kiss their sede ass... and agree with them  :popcorn:








    Everyone and everything is invalid, and like the Dimonds, only they enlightened sede is not going to Hell

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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #70 on: September 12, 2020, 02:38:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Incredulous on September 12, 2020, 12:59:48 PM
    only they enlightened sede is not going to Hell
    Sedes don't believe this at all. :facepalm:
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #71 on: September 12, 2020, 03:01:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on September 12, 2020, 02:38:42 PM
    Sedes don't believe this at all. :facepalm:

    In my twelve years of experience with sedes, they are not really consistent (and not really unified either) so it is hard to know what exactly they believe as a group. Among themselves they can be all strict in condemning the "Novus Ordo Sect" and say only sedes are really Catholic and everyone else is in the "Novus Ordo Sect" or "semi-trads," but amongst mixed company they will go all ecuмenist. Sometimes they will be all rigorist and then they become weak and limp like overcooked spaghetti. I find the strict groups that everyone condemns like the Dimonds and the Ibranyis to be most consistent. Peace be upon them.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #72 on: September 12, 2020, 03:15:44 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matto on September 12, 2020, 03:01:40 PM
    I find the strict groups that everyone condemns like the Dimonds and the Ibranyis to be most consistent. Peace be upon them.
    The Dimonds are Jew converts (?) anyway, and Richard Ibranyi thinks we haven't had a pope since 1130 AD, so I'm not sure what can be proved by looking at those people.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #73 on: September 12, 2020, 03:19:30 PM »
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    • I was about to call the Dimonds with a Spanish word starting with M that sounds a little like the English word "moron", but I will simply say that they are Jews who claim to have converted to Catholicism and leave it at that.
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    Regardless, with the amount that those two brothers get discussed on this website, and the amount that their tribe likewise gets discussed here, it is very strange to me that no one ever mentions the ethnic background of the Dimonds.
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    Re: Father Cekada Dying
    « Reply #74 on: September 12, 2020, 03:21:58 PM »
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    • Quote from: Yeti on September 12, 2020, 03:15:44 PM
    The Dimonds are Jew converts (?) anyway, and Richard Ibranyi thinks we haven't had a pope since 1130 AD, so I'm not sure what can be proved by looking at those people.

    And how dost thou knowest that the Dimonds are born of the curse of Christ’s blood ?
    :popcorn:
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