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« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2014, 04:36:20 AM »
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  • Cardinal Bergoglio was involved in declaring this a miracle?  

    Why doesn't that give me warm fuzzies?
    Revenge not yourselves, my dearly beloved; but give place unto wrath, for it is written: Revenge is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord. (Romans 12:19)


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    « Reply #16 on: August 26, 2014, 06:22:47 AM »
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  • I have heard of "miracles" in protestant sects, in Pagan sects, in Islam, in modern Judaism. Obviously, none of them were "Eucharistic miracles", but many religions claim to have miracles.

    I don't know what to think other than the fact that these modern-day "Eucharistic miracles" don't seem to be re-invigorating any faith in the Real Presence on any wide--or even narrow--scale and the people who discover the miracles seem to take the opportunity to bask in the spotlight of fame for a time not unlike the housewife who sees Jesus in a pancake or something like that.

    Something just doesn't feel right about them.


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    « Reply #17 on: August 26, 2014, 11:49:48 PM »
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  • The mystery centers on a consecrated host that the Rev. John Echert of St. Augustine Church said fell to the floor last month during Holy Communion and turned “blood red” after being placed in a cup filled with water. It has yet to fully dissolve, he said.

    “It was notable enough that, clearly, it was some phenomenon and not the ordinary way in which a host would dissolve…that we’re familiar with,” Echert said.

    The archdiocese, which now has the host, is taking a “very cautious stance on the matter,” spokesman Dennis McGrath said.

    “I make no claims, and the archdiocese makes no claims, as to the likelihood of this being supernatural,” Echert said. “But it is enough of a phenomenon, or unusual, that we will continue to examine this host.”

    He added: “I’ve never in my 24 years as a priest seen or been aware of a phenomenon where a consecrated host placed in water turns to this bright-colored red and continues in what I would call the blood-red color.”

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2011/07/eucharistic-miracle-in-minnesota/

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    « Reply #18 on: August 26, 2014, 11:52:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: TKGS
    I have heard of "miracles" in protestant sects, in Pagan sects, in Islam, in modern Judaism. Obviously, none of them were "Eucharistic miracles", but many religions claim to have miracles.

    I don't know what to think other than the fact that these modern-day "Eucharistic miracles" don't seem to be re-invigorating any faith in the Real Presence on any wide--or even narrow--scale and the people who discover the miracles seem to take the opportunity to bask in the spotlight of fame for a time not unlike the housewife who sees Jesus in a pancake or something like that.

    Something just doesn't feel right about them.


    Jesus is calling on us to believe in his Eucharistic Presence. We have to listen.

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    « Reply #19 on: August 27, 2014, 01:29:38 AM »
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  • How to create a fake Eucharistic miracle:

    1. Have either a gullible priest who went along with it OR a sociopathic priest who created this forgery for power/recognition/more parishioners.
    2. Have either a few gullible parishioners who are so desperate to feel anything at 'mass' that they believe they saw a miracle, OR have a few sociopathic parishioners who said they saw a miracle for some asinine purpose.
    3. Have the rest of the parishioners buy into the miracle, they already bought into the bogus NO sect, so its not hard for them
    4. Have church authorities whose job is to find and verify miracles buy into the fake miracle- as there are no real miracles in the NO sect, they would be out of a job without some miracles.  So they exaggerate and sensationalize steps 1-3.
    5. You have a miracle

    And remember it was Satan who set up the counter-church, Satan is guiding all these steps so they come into fruition, and with every fake NO miracle more people lose their souls, as more people enter this fake church and almost all, if not all will sadly lose their souls.  


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    « Reply #20 on: August 28, 2014, 10:45:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: tdrev123
    How to create a fake Eucharistic miracle:

    1. Have either a gullible priest who went along with it OR a sociopathic priest who created this forgery for power/recognition/more parishioners.
    2. Have either a few gullible parishioners who are so desperate to feel anything at 'mass' that they believe they saw a miracle, OR have a few sociopathic parishioners who said they saw a miracle for some asinine purpose.
    3. Have the rest of the parishioners buy into the miracle, they already bought into the bogus NO sect, so its not hard for them
    4. Have church authorities whose job is to find and verify miracles buy into the fake miracle- as there are no real miracles in the NO sect, they would be out of a job without some miracles.  So they exaggerate and sensationalize steps 1-3.
    5. You have a miracle

    And remember it was Satan who set up the counter-church, Satan is guiding all these steps so they come into fruition, and with every fake NO miracle more people lose their souls, as more people enter this fake church and almost all, if not all will sadly lose their souls.  

    That is why these phenomena are investigated.

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    « Reply #21 on: August 28, 2014, 10:49:09 PM »
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  • A Mexican priest is claiming that, after hearing the voice of God, the host which he had just consecrated began to bleed. The bloody host was available for adoration for some time, at which point the Archbishop ordered the Host to be reposed until further investigation.

    Here is what happened:

    “This is a time of great blessing for this community and for the whole world.” says Father Jose Dolores Castellanos Gudino of the phenomenon that occurred in his parish yesterday after blood flowed from a consecrated host.

    Amid songs, clapping, tears, long lines and cell phones trying to capture the moment, thousands of faithful Catholics and non-believers alike visited the Parish of Mary Mother of the Church located in Colonia Jardines de la Paz (Guadalajara, Mexico) to witness the alleged miracle.

    A flash and a voice

    It was 12:00 on the date when the pastor was making his daily prayer before the Blessed Sacrament when suddenly saw a flash and heard a voice that instructed him:

    “Chime the bells to summon everyone, pour out blessings to those who are present, and all day. Take your small tabernacle from private worship and bring it to the altar of the parish, place the largest monstrance next to it, and do not open the Tabernacle until three in the afternoon, no sooner, when I will perform a miracle in the Eucharist. The miracle to take place will be called the “Miracle of the Eucharist in the Incarnation of Love Joined With Our Mother and Queen,’ you will take the sign of which I speak, and you will display it.”

    Afterward, “the voice” told him to tell “the apostles” (the priests) to help all souls in their conversion and fill them with blessings.

    Father Lolo–as his parishioners know him–said he could not utter a word to that voice that spoke except, “My Lord, am thy servant, I will do thy will.”  His voice breaking with emotion that he could not conceal, the priest continued narrating what happened:

    “I did as I was ordered, I asked them to open the doors of the church, it was about half past two, and I said to sound the bells as I was told. I took from my small private chapel this humble wooden tabernacle, I put it on the altar, also got the monstrance as I was ordered and at about three in the afternoon people were gathered in prayer to the Blessed Sacrament. When I asked if it was already three in the afternoon and everyone told me yes, I went to open the tabernacle, and the wafer consecrated through our Lord Jesus Christ was bathed in blood.”

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    The father explained that what Jesus wants is to worship his body and blood bound to His Blessed Mother and that every July 24 we will remember the Eucharistic Miracle of the Incarnation of Love Joined with Our Mother and Lady.

    “I heard (the voice) tell me that a niche for the adoration of souls would be established in this community, and that if at any time they want to perform studies that require a part [of the host] that they may do all the studies they want.”

    He added:

    “He (Jesus) is here present and I pass on to you only what I heard, together with those who saw what I saw.”

    After the Mass, past 8:00 pm, Father Dolores Castelllanos’s secretary said he was unavailable to give an official statement, to say whether there had been contact with the Archdiocese of Guadalajara, or explain what would happen in the days after this incident.

    During the first day of public viewing of the “bleeding host,” the disorder in the church was apparent, to the extent that the parish authorities advised cancelling the exposition–at times it was only possible to focus on the yelling and pushing of adults and children who wanted to come to the altar and be witnesses to what Father “Lolo” had seen.

    The makeshift security guard of Mary Mother of the Church chose to place a screen on which were projected images of the “bloody host,” but over time this only served to further captivate those who had heard the rumor, like Mrs. Clara Aparicio, who appeared before the “Eucharistic Miracle” trusting that the asthma with which she suffered would disappear.

    “I did not doubt what I had heard so strongly, so clearly. Now I show it as I was told,” said the priest. At the stroke of 9:00 pm, the guards closed the doors to hundreds of worshipers leaving no opportunity to observe the “bloody wafer,” saying that the viewing would resume on Thursday at about 8 a.m.

    I leave this up for discernment and have read in other sources that the Bishop has launched an investigation into this phenomena and also has Fr. Lolo undergoing a set of tests to determine if what he saw was from God.

    http://monk2be.com/breaking-news-eucharistic-miracle-in-mexico/

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    « Reply #22 on: August 31, 2014, 11:36:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: TKGS
    I have heard of "miracles" in protestant sects, in Pagan sects, in Islam, in modern Judaism. Obviously, none of them were "Eucharistic miracles", but many religions claim to have miracles.

    I don't know what to think other than the fact that these modern-day "Eucharistic miracles" don't seem to be re-invigorating any faith in the Real Presence on any wide--or even narrow--scale and the people who discover the miracles seem to take the opportunity to bask in the spotlight of fame for a time not unlike the housewife who sees Jesus in a pancake or something like that.

    Something just doesn't feel right about them.


    Remember too, the prophesies tell us the devil will work strange prodigies and miracles in the end times.

    Are we living the end times?  That is the question.
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    « Reply #23 on: August 31, 2014, 10:41:57 PM »
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  • St. Louis of France, who, once when he was called into his private chapel to see some miraculous appearance which had taken place at Mass, refused to go, saying he thanked God he believed in the Blessed Sacrament, and should not believe it more firmly for all the miracles in the world, neither did he wish to see one, lest  he should forfeit or Lord's special blessings on those who have not seen, and yet believed. This was taken from the book, " All for Jesus" by  Faber.

    How true this is.  Why is it, that when we received the true Body and Blood of Christ, a miracle, we should look at those other miracles, like this one mentioned and run to see it?