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Re: Eastern Orthodox heresies
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2022, 07:06:29 PM »
Thank you. That is a worthy start for him. I think he is sincere n his search.

As we all know, having a тαℓмυdic anti-Pope subsisting in the Chair of Peter is a huge impediment to conversions.

Thanks again!

Glad I could help. I've had some more interactions with the EO world than most Traditional Catholics (I suppose), being that half my family are sadly Greek Orthodox schismatics, so the issue is quite personal to me. One of the realizations that comes with this kind of extended contact with the EO world is that they are not as "based" as they may first appear.

Speaking of the Greek Orthodox, Patriarch Bartholomew I (their spiritual leader as the Patriarch of Constantinople) has been dubbed "The Green Patriarch" for his invention of "ecological sin", which he first spoke of in 1997 (well before Francis, mind you) in the following terms: 

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For humans to cause species to become extinct and to destroy the biological diversity of God’s creation… For humans to degrade the integrity of Earth by causing changes in its climate, by stripping the Earth of its natural forests, or destroying its wetlands… For humans to injure other humans with disease, for humans to contaminate the Earth’s waters, its land, its air, and its life, with poisonous substances… These are sins.

(ADDRESS AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL SYMPOSIUM, SAINT BARBARA GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH, SANTA BARBARA, CALIFORNIA, NOVEMBER 8, 1997)


Here are some other words of Patriarch Bartholomew on this issue, which seem to be far more recent (the article didn't give a date here): 

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Climate change is much more than an issue of environmental preservation. Insofar as human-induced, it is a profoundly moral and spiritual problem. To persist in our current path of ecological destruction is not only folly. It is suicidal because it jeopardizes the diversity of our planet.

Sources for the above quotes: 

https://publicorthodoxy.org/2021/09/03/green-patriarch-and-ecological-sin/


https://greekreporter.com/2021/11/24/ecuмenical-patriarch-bartholomew-2/

Re: Eastern Orthodox heresies
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2022, 07:27:29 PM »
For humans to cause species to become extinct and to destroy the biological diversity of God’s creation… For humans to degrade the integrity of Earth by causing changes in its climate, by stripping the Earth of its natural forests, or destroying its wetlands… For humans to injure other humans with disease, for humans to contaminate the Earth’s waters, its land, its air, and its life, with poisonous substances… These are sins.

(ADDRESS AT THE ENVIRONMENTAL SYMPOSIUM, SAINT BARBARA GREEK ORTHODOX CHURCH, SANTA BARBARA, CALIFORNIA, NOVEMBER 8, 1997)
Most of these are a result of original sin and the Fall. Not direct personal sins of individual men. Shame to see environmentalist "green theology" emerged in the East before it went West. :facepalm:


Re: Eastern Orthodox heresies
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2022, 07:28:48 PM »
Here's a fix to the second article's broken link: "Patriarch Bartholomew: Leading Orthodoxy for Three Decades".

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Re: Eastern Orthodox heresies
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2022, 07:53:29 PM »
Thanks also for the additional information. I have passed it to the potential convert.

Re: Eastern Orthodox heresies
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2022, 08:44:03 PM »
Glad I could help. I've had some more interactions with the EO world than most Traditional Catholics (I suppose), being that half my family are sadly Greek Orthodox schismatics, so the issue is quite personal to me. One of the realizations that comes with this kind of extended contact with the EO world is that they are not as "based" as they may first appear.

Speaking of the Greek Orthodox, Patriarch Bartholomew I (their spiritual leader as the Patriarch of Constantinople) has been dubbed "The Green Patriarch" for his invention of "ecological sin", which he first spoke of in 1997 (well before Francis, mind you) in the following terms:


Here are some other words of Patriarch Bartholomew on this issue, which seem to be far more recent (the article didn't give a date here):

Sources for the above quotes:

https://publicorthodoxy.org/2021/09/03/green-patriarch-and-ecological-sin/


https://greekreporter.com/2021/11/24/ecuмenical-patriarch-bartholomew-2/
What do you mean by “based”?

In the main, my experience with Eastern Orthodox people is that they have a more superficial understanding of their religion than you would expect. Predictably, much of it is tied up in their ethnicities.