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Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #135 on: May 18, 2022, 07:38:06 PM »
No, it's called giving them the benefit of the doubt.  You clowns are making the accusations, so the burden of proof is on you.  In point of fact, you're just pulling these out of your collective asses because you don't like the man.  This has been going on since day one against +Vigano.

Why is it that the SVs are such assholes?  Makes me think that it's a huge reason so many people stay away from them.  You might do a better job of persuading people you're right if you didn't rip anyone to shreds who didn't measure up to your standards of perfection.  And perhaps +Vigano sees some of your vitriol and animosity toward him.  Why would he want to align himself with that bullshit?

And I'm going to be very blunt here.  While I understand the theology behind SVism and am sympathetic to it, it's just a simple fact that most SVs are a bunch of bitter assholes ... and a lot of people point that out as your bad fruit.
Lad, cool down. Take a break.

Yes, there are a lot of nasty SVists, but there are also many nasty sedeplenists and NO conservatives too. I cannot recall all the uncharitable exchanges I received from non-sede traddies on FE, Gab and Twitter over the years. It's a sign of the times and a result of this Crisis. It is not just one group, it's among all groups and tends to be exaggerated through the filter of the internet. 

Our Lord prophesied this in the Gospel:
"And because iniquity hath abounded, the charity of many shall grow cold."
[Matthew 24:12]

Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #136 on: May 18, 2022, 07:41:09 PM »
I agree with DL that your nonsense borders on slander at this point.

Lots of people write differently than they speak.  I absolutely do.  And that's especially true when he's not perfectly fluent in English.  He writes his articles typically in Italian and then others translate them.  So I would certainly expect there to be a stylistic difference.  That would be to compare something I might write in English with me standing up there trying to speak Italian.  There would be two completely different products.

As for going into hiding, I think he has every reason to suspect that the homo maffia will come after him after he exposed their crimes.  There are stories of people who blew the whistle on some Conciliar sodomites who ended up sleeping with the fishes.

As for writing is all he's doing, his writing is waking up a lot of conservative Novus Ordites, and even Traditional Catholics have received a morale boost due to someone of his stature agreeing that V2 is garbage and needs to be discarded.  See my previous response to 2V about consecrating or ordaining or whatever else he might "do".  You really don't think that ideas and theology matter?  They're everything.  His writing to help clear up minds about the nature of V2 and the crisis are invaluable and do more good than would ordaining more priests.

Your maniacal rant borders on the insane.

Lads,

Call me what you want.

The Dimonds are in a hack league all by themselves.

But Voris, Marshall and Vigano all have links to Opus judei.  Have you not studied it ?  Do you not see the signs?

Voris promoted Opus dei on his show, Marshall praised Escriva's theology on his old website and Vigano used to celebrate the Novus ordo missae at Opus dei headquarters.   Their "talking head" insider news completely fits the Opus judei's propaganda MO.

Let me ask you, and I'm not trying to be a smart aleck
Did you believe in the Trump/Q news a couple of years ago?


Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #137 on: May 18, 2022, 08:24:17 PM »
... But Voris, Marshall and Vigano all have links to Opus judei.  Have you not studied it ?  Do you not see the signs? ...

I still think it's fun that Marshall named a son after Escriva. I took a few seconds to Google it and look what came up:

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Dr. Taylor Marshall Moderator  7 years ago

For reference, our other children's names are:
Gabriel William
Mary Claire
Rose Genevieve
Jude Ambrose Josemaria
Becket John
Blaise Christopher
Elizabeth Joy Anne Mary


Sources:

1.) https://taylormarshall.com/2015/06/our-8th-baby-is-a-baby-girl.html

2.) http://disq.us/p/y4pyqi
Yeah, he didn't name them ALL Josemaria or Escriva so it's probably just a coincidence. Like all of the other coincidental connections he has to Opus Dei :popcorn:

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Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #138 on: May 19, 2022, 08:27:20 AM »
Voris and Marshall are easily connected with Opus Dei.  Where’s the proof of +Vigano’s connection?  

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Re: Dimond Brothers on Taylor Marshall
« Reply #139 on: May 19, 2022, 10:48:44 AM »
Yet?  I'll believe it when I see it. Quite honestly, I think he'll just continue to write, and write, and write....and then he'll die.


I think the same. That's all he's done for the last 4-5 years, and there's no indication he will every do anything different, and he is now in his 80s and doesn't have a huge amount of time left for this world.

I don't understand why people on here are so impressed by him. He was alive before Vatican 2 and saw what the Church really looks like, and lived through all the changes, and never objected to anything that we know of. Then, a few years ago he makes a big issue out of the carnal sins of a few Novus Ordo prelates and the conservative wing of the Novus Ordo (i.e., Michael Matt, indult groups in general) starts fawning all over him. Why? I have no idea. Personal immortality of a few clergy is not a problem of the Church.

Then, a year or two later, he finally(!) realizes there are doctrinal and liturgical problems in the Church, something that pious old ladies were aware of 50 years ago. But fair enough, so he starts condemning Vatican 2 and the new "Mass". Better late than never. He even attacks Bergoglio as a heretic, which really wows a lot of people.

Unfortunately, he maintains that Bergoglio can only be deposed as pope by "the Church", a not-uncommon opinion, but never defines who "the Church" is. But let's suppose he is referring to the college of cardinals. Okay, but the college of cardinals refuses to depose Bergoglio. Well, doesn't that make them complicit? That is what both common sense and theology teach, and after all, if a pope can be a heretic and need deposition, can't the same be true of the college of cardinals? All of this is what Vigano could have discerned with 30 seconds of thoughtful reflection, even without recourse to any theological treatises (which he doesn't appear to read, anyway, or at least he never cites any theologians).

So if the college of cardinals espouses heresy and/or protects a heretical antipope, they must be judged and deposed by "the Church" too, right? And who is that now? Well, who is below the cardinals except the bishops? But wait, isn't Vigano a bishop, in fact an ARCHbishop? So doesn't that mean he has the duty, as a member of "the Church", to depose the pope and cardinals?

Well, he made it absolutely clear that he will never fulfill this obligation when he said that he would not declare Bergoglio an antipope because "that's just what Bergoglio wants", and he was absolutely terrified that Bergoglio would excommunicate him. Seriously??! What traditional Catholic wouldn't want to be excommunicated by Bergoglio -- in fact, wear such an excommunication as a badge of honor?

Vigano's failure to do his duty is not due to an ignorance of what he is supposed to do -- which would be bad enough in itself -- but due to a lack of courage and trust in God. He is one of the only people on earth who is uniquely positioned to do the one thing that every trad of whatever stripe agrees would solve the crisis in the Church, which is to have the Church formally condemn Bergoglio and the modernist cardinals and bishops and pass sentence of excommunication on them, removing them from office in the Church. If Vigano were to do this, everyone from Indultarians to Michael Matt to the recognize-and-resist people to sedevacantists and everone in-between would accept it as legitimate and accept the new pope following on such a judgment as a true pope of the Church, and the crisis in the Church would be over.

But instead, Vigano chooses to be a hireling and a coward, and unless he does his duty he will be held guilty of the loss of millions of souls who would otherwise have been saved by such a restoration of the Church, and he will be buried as deep in hell as Cardinal Siri who was similarly a hireling and a coward, and who refused to reveal what happened in the 1958 conclave, thus allowing the loss of millions of souls and an unprecedented apostasy.