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Offline Elizabeth

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Did Abp. Thuc knowingly consecrate Jean Laborie?
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2014, 08:45:16 PM »
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    ......  These disguised feeneyites should be refused communion, but the final verdict doesn't come from what a priest does or doesn't do.    



    This last sentence is difficult to understand.

    Has anyone else noticed how ironic it is that SSPV refuses the sacraments to Thuc line associated laypeople and "Feeneyites",

    yet they are saying in effect, no salvation outside of SSPV?




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    « Reply #46 on: July 31, 2014, 08:53:43 PM »
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  • elizabeth - you sow cockle.


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    « Reply #47 on: July 31, 2014, 09:06:02 PM »
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    The CMRI never talks like this.  They are to busy caring about people's salvation, making endless sacrifices driving all across the country, flying to other countries, visiting the sick and dying, operating countless schools to educate future Catholics, etc,


    As a non Sedevecantist, who has attended CMRI services for about the past year, more or less, I can attest to this statement.

    The issue at hand, the OP, stinks of malice.


    That's what watching 4 hours of the Jenkins-Cekada "debate" or listening to their radio and TV shows will do.  

    I think they come closest to the Mormons, overall.  Their set-up is remarkably similar in many ways, along with the mindset of being superior.

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    « Reply #48 on: July 31, 2014, 09:19:23 PM »
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    elizabeth - you sow cockle.


        :laugh1: Thanks, that made my day.

     


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    « Reply #49 on: August 04, 2014, 08:22:04 AM »
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    If the Feeneyites had her humility, integrity, sincerity and knowledge they would not be a black blotch on this forum.  



     :roll-laugh1:


    ..........you know....pots, kettles, black, and all of that............ :roll-laugh2:


    If I were a comedian I would make sure you were in my audience.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    « Reply #50 on: August 04, 2014, 08:26:20 AM »
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    s2srea - the silence is deafening.  And, my OP was a "response"(not malice) from earlier discussions.  It is there to read.


    The consecrations are valid, that is the bottom line.  The SSPV denies either for self-serving purposes or inexcusable ignorance for clergy.  No silence.  Just the facts.  How many times should this be repeated for you to avoid insinuating that the point of your thread is meritorious in some way?
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #51 on: August 04, 2014, 08:26:53 AM »
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    If the Feeneyites had her humility, integrity, sincerity and knowledge they would not be a black blotch on this forum.  



     :roll-laugh1:


    ..........you know....pots, kettles, black, and all of that............ :roll-laugh2:


    If I were a comedian I would make sure you were in my audience.  


    Oh! but, you are,..........and...........I am..... :roll-laugh1:

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    « Reply #52 on: August 04, 2014, 08:29:38 AM »
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    The CMRI never talks like this.  They are to busy caring about people's salvation, making endless sacrifices driving all across the country, flying to other countries, visiting the sick and dying, operating countless schools to educate future Catholics, etc,


    As a non Sedevecantist, who has attended CMRI services for about the past year, more or less, I can attest to this statement.

    The issue at hand, the OP, stinks of malice.


    That's what watching 4 hours of the Jenkins-Cekada "debate" or listening to their radio and TV shows will do.  

    I think they come closest to the Mormons, overall.  Their set-up is remarkably similar in many ways, along with the mindset of being superior.


    ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is a sin against God.
    Any priest who has temptations or has committed this act should be defrocked
    And excommunicated.  They are secretly pushing to make it hate crime and discrimination to remove them from their black mass.  
    May God bless you and keep you


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    « Reply #53 on: August 04, 2014, 08:39:39 AM »
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    If the Feeneyites had her humility, integrity, sincerity and knowledge they would not be a black blotch on this forum.  



     :roll-laugh1:


    ..........you know....pots, kettles, black, and all of that............ :roll-laugh2:


    If I were a comedian I would make sure you were in my audience.  


    Oh! but, you are,..........and...........I am..... :roll-laugh1:


    Did you hear the one about the blogger who extolled a cult for castigating a group of the holiest and hard working group of clergy out there?
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    « Reply #54 on: August 04, 2014, 06:05:13 PM »
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    If the Feeneyites had her humility, integrity, sincerity and knowledge they would not be a black blotch on this forum.  



     :roll-laugh1:


    ..........you know....pots, kettles, black, and all of that............ :roll-laugh2:


    If I were a comedian I would make sure you were in my audience.  


    Oh! but, you are,..........and...........I am..... :roll-laugh1:


    Did you hear the one about the blogger who extolled a cult for castigating a group of the holiest and hard working group of clergy out there?


    I have heard that one, but it was not funny.  

    I wonder if the demons and damned can laugh, because they are the ones who mock and hate all that is good including holy and humble priests.  Those that hate these priests have something in common with demons, very scary.
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    « Reply #55 on: August 04, 2014, 07:26:49 PM »
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    ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is a sin against God.
    Any priest who has temptations or has committed this act should be defrocked
    And excommunicated.  They are secretly pushing to make it hate crime and discrimination to remove them from their black mass.  


    We all agree!  Doctors of the Church state this very strongly.(except for the N.O. wasn't invented at the time of their earthly lives)

    This is why the CMRI reformed themselves.  The SSPX clergy say that laypeople who take CMRI sacraments, and people who hold Fr. Feeney's position are not Catholic and may not be baptised, receive Communion, sponsor a Confirmand, etc.

     But this does not give them any Catholic authority to deny sacraments for lay people who assist at CMRI Masses, or expel people they don't like.

    Further, they have painted themselves into a corner.  Any grave problems they have cannot ever be admitted to, let alone dealt with.  

    They record and publish hundreds of hours of attacks against one man, Archbishop Thuc, instead of correcting their own serious issues.