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Offline Confiteor Deo

Re: Claimed Eucharistic Miracles
« Reply #70 on: December 19, 2022, 04:44:53 AM »
Quote from: Incredulous on December 18, 2022, 05:56:22 PM
Great question!

Assuming the person in question, was Baptized validly and had a devotion to the Blessed Mother, would go far.

That the person was duped and misled by the Church schism seemingly was not his fault.

That his Baptism and Our Lady would be sufficient to help the person receive more graces to discern the truth seems likely.
Who is more likely to be in a state of grace, a novos ordite who prays the rosary daily with his family, or a trad who doesn't ? 

The covid scam showed us many novus ordites who refused the vaxx while Mgr Vigano, showed more catholic courage in speaking the truth about the con than most trad groups. 

So when it comes to fighting for the truth, give me a novos ordite like E Michael Jones or Ann Barnardt over a trad who wealds the word 'prudence' like a weapon. 

The stance of the SSPX, the Sedevacantist Bishop who was pro vax, (whose name I forget), shows that these people don't have the grace of state to advise us on much and quite honestly, we are on our own. 

Mgr Lefevbre told us that some day in the future, we would have to rely on individual priests rather than any traditionalist group. These times are on us now. 

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Claimed Eucharistic Miracles
« Reply #71 on: December 19, 2022, 07:45:10 AM »
Quote from: Confiteor Deo on December 19, 2022, 04:44:53 AM
Who is more likely to be in a state of grace, a novos ordite who prays the rosary daily with his family, or a trad who doesn't ?

The covid scam showed us many novus ordites who refused the vaxx while Mgr Vigano, showed more catholic courage in speaking the truth about the con than most trad groups.

So when it comes to fighting for the truth, give me a novos ordite like E Michael Jones or Ann Barnardt over a trad who wealds the word 'prudence' like a weapon.

The stance of the SSPX, the Sedevacantist Bishop who was pro vax, (whose name I forget), shows that these people don't have the grace of state to advise us on much and quite honestly, we are on our own.

Mgr Lefevbre told us that some day in the future, we would have to rely on individual priests rather than any traditionalist group. These times are on us now.

You're oversimplifying things grossly.  Barnhardt, for instance, does a lot of damage with her pseudo-theology, promoting her man Ratzinger as if he were a paragon of orthodoxy.  Piety with bad theology does not amount to "fighting for the truth".  And holding out some priests' misfiring regarding the jab as the primary litmus test of orthodoxy is ridiculous also.

I'd take an SSPX priest who got it wrong about the jab but was otherwise orthodox vs. an Ann Barnhardt who's all over the map and upholds Ratzinger as some great defender of the faith rather than the destroyer he is.  As far as I know, Ratzinger did not oppose the jab but was promoting it to the extent he could from his capacity as "hidden pope".
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Claimed Eucharistic Miracles
« Reply #72 on: December 19, 2022, 07:53:08 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on December 19, 2022, 07:45:10 AM
You're oversimplifying things grossly.  Barnhardt, for instance, does a lot of damage with her pseudo-theology, promoting her man Ratzinger as if he were a paragon of orthodoxy.  Piety with bad theology does not amount to "fighting for the truth".  And holding out some priests' misfiring regarding the jab as the primary litmus test of orthodoxy is ridiculous also.

I'd take an SSPX priest who got it wrong about the jab but was otherwise orthodox vs. an Ann Barnhardt who's all over the map and upholds Ratzinger as some great defender of the faith rather than the destroyer he is.  As far as I know, Ratzinger did not oppose the jab but was promoting it to the extent he could from his capacity as "hidden pope".
Wasn't it reported that he got the jab?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Claimed Eucharistic Miracles
« Reply #73 on: December 19, 2022, 07:54:48 AM »
Quote from: SimpleMan on December 17, 2022, 11:59:06 AM
I know one might protest "yes, Satan could engineer all of that".  Two thoughts then: (a) we have made Satan almost as omnipotent, almost as omniscient, as Almighty God Himself.  Indeed, a friend of mine in college (Jєωιѕн, BTW) said "you Christians make it almost as though there were two Gods, one good, one evil".  Satan is neither omnipotent nor omniscient --- of a higher intelligence than any human, true, with angelic powers that no human has, true, but even with this conceded, he's not a god.

What are you talking about?  Nothing about a "Eucharistic miracle" requires "god"-like powers.  Per your scenario, Satan can simply reuse tissue from the same person for multiple such "miracles" (and likely would to make them more convincing).  And even human beings do genetic engineering right now.  While Satan is not god, the intellects of these fallen angels far surpass our wildest imagination.  So if human beings are capable of genetic engineering, that's probably not even 1% of what the demons can do in that area.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Claimed Eucharistic Miracles
« Reply #74 on: December 19, 2022, 07:56:03 AM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on December 19, 2022, 07:53:08 AM
Wasn't it reported that he got the jab?

Yes, and I vaguely recall his making a statement endorsing it.
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