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Catholic bibles should be more affordable
« on: July 02, 2024, 09:52:40 AM »
The kings James Bible about $3.00

Douay Rheims about $70. 


Catholic bibles and books are much more expensive.  

No excuses.  


Offline Emile

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Re: Catholic bibles should be more affordable
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2024, 10:24:41 AM »
https://wordsrated.com/bible-sales-statistics/

Bible sales by version or translation
In the US, when Bible readers were surveyed as to which version or translation of the Bible they purchased and read, the data showed:
Bible VersionPercentage of Bible readers purchased
King James Version31%
New International Version13%
English Standard Version9%
New King James Version7%
Amplified7%
Christian Community4%
New American Standard3%
New Living Translation2%
Revised Standard2%
Contemporary English Version2%
New American Bible2%
All others9%
Not Sure8%


The number of Doauy-Rheims Bibles sold is miniscule. In other words, the cost of production is spread across fewer items sold, thus the cost per each is necessarily higher. Add to that that, as far as I am aware, there is no Catholic equivalent of the Gideons doing mass printing and distribution of the Douay-Rheims. 


Offline Matthew

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Re: Catholic bibles should be more affordable
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2024, 12:08:07 PM »
The kings James Bible about $3.00

Douay Rheims about $70.


Catholic bibles and books are much more expensive. 

No excuses. 

No excuses, huh? Because you said so? What is your argument why there should be "no excuses"? Because Catholic Bibles and Protestant bibles are literally the same product, and you don't even know why we have different names for them?

Have you ever published a book? I'll go one further -- do you know the first thing about the book publishing business? Somehow I doubt it.


But seriously, though, I think you're comparing apples to oranges.

Some small, Protestant, overseas-printed bible, softcover, with the thinnest cheapest paper is NOT equivalent to a high-quality Catholic Bible like the famous TAN Douay-Rheims Bible, which was leatherbound, with thick pages, gild edges, etc.

I can tell you with absolute certainty that Tom Nelson wasn't ripping people off when he charged $35 for such a Bible in the 1980's.

Can you show me 2 Bibles that are "equivalent" with that kind of price difference between them?

Somehow I'm skeptical that Catholic Bible makers are some kind of cigar smoking fat cats that think they need to make $50 profit where most businesses would aim for $5 profit.

First show me the two links, then the discussion can continue from there.

Offline Matthew

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Re: Catholic bibles should be more affordable
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2024, 12:14:32 PM »
I found a cheap one like you were talking about:
https://churchsource.com/products/nkjv-value-outreach-bible-holy-bible-new-king-james-version

Here's a Douay Rheims new for $30
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935302027/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1935302027&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />

Here's a bad modern Catholic Bible for $11.89
https://churchsource.com/products/nrsv-catholic-edition-bible-holy-bible?currency=USD&variant=32599851630689&stkn=0537a4b57eb9


I'll attempt to give you some reasons/answers. Spoiler alert: the Catholic publishers are NOT evil, J--ish, or engaged in some greedy conspiracy to be "mean" to the poor or those on a fixed income.

1. There are a lot more Protestants than Catholics.
2. For the Protestants, the Bible is all they have. They have no need for Church Fathers, Saints, Doctors of the Church, or any other "Tradition".
3. Protestants also have minimal need for ministers, Catechism, or even going to church. By their own doctrine, each person can and should interpret Scripture for themselves. So they spend a lot more time in Scripture than the average Catholic.
4. Books are one of those things where the more you print at once, the cheaper each book gets. 100 books might cost $30 each, but that per-book cost might drop to $15 if you could order as little as 2,000 at once. Imagine the discount if you could manage to print 1 million at once. There are typesetting, proofreading, and other ONE TIME set-up costs associated with printing a book.
5. Printing in India and other third-world countries is cheaper than printing in the USA -- just like everything else.
6. There are various qualities of paper.
7. Since Protestants believe "Sola Scriptura" and "once saved always saved", they put a lot of their donations and "missionary budget" into mass producing and distributing Bibles, as if that alone does tons of good for the world.
8. Related to #7, it is quite possible that some Prot bibles are actually SUBSIDIZED by various non-profits and/or churches, with the aim of wider distribution. The Bible is like marketing for these churches. It's part of their marketing or outreach budget.
9. In a similar vein, where do Protestant church donations go, BESIDES the pockets of the ministers? Bibles. It's not like any money goes into stained glass, golden vessels and candlesticks, or statues. Most protestant churches are "functional" at best. When a protestant widow with a $50K or $5M house is bequeathed to her church, what could that money be spent on?
10. Catholics are more likely to have just one Bible for the whole family, and let's face it, it's more of a decoration. So more likely to be fancy, hardcover, so it looks nice on the shelf. Protestants have nothing else, so they read it every day, they get one for each child, and they wear them out. So they're interested in cheap/disposable "everyday carry" versions. There's not much Catholic demand for such a Bible.
11. Even the good Catholics who familiarize themselves with and actually read the Bible are likely to do it at home, where a hardcover would be fine. Catholics read the Bible where it's not going to get beat up. But Protestants want cheap, light editions they can keep in their car, read on their lunch break,  read in the city park, take with them to prisons to read to prisoners, etc. It's a whole different mindset.

Offline Cryptinox

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Re: Catholic bibles should be more affordable
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2024, 10:05:08 PM »
I found a cheap one like you were talking about:
https://churchsource.com/products/nkjv-value-outreach-bible-holy-bible-new-king-james-version

Here's a Douay Rheims new for $30
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1935302027/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=1935302027&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20 />

Here's a bad modern Catholic Bible for $11.89
https://churchsource.com/products/nrsv-catholic-edition-bible-holy-bible?currency=USD&variant=32599851630689&stkn=0537a4b57eb9


I'll attempt to give you some reasons/answers. Spoiler alert: the Catholic publishers are NOT evil, J--ish, or engaged in some greedy conspiracy to be "mean" to the poor or those on a fixed income.

1. There are a lot more Protestants than Catholics.
2. For the Protestants, the Bible is all they have. They have no need for Church Fathers, Saints, Doctors of the Church, or any other "Tradition".
3. Protestants also have minimal need for ministers, Catechism, or even going to church. By their own doctrine, each person can and should interpret Scripture for themselves. So they spend a lot more time in Scripture than the average Catholic.
4. Books are one of those things where the more you print at once, the cheaper each book gets. 100 books might cost $30 each, but that per-book cost might drop to $15 if you could order as little as 2,000 at once. Imagine the discount if you could manage to print 1 million at once. There are typesetting, proofreading, and other ONE TIME set-up costs associated with printing a book.
5. Printing in India and other third-world countries is cheaper than printing in the USA -- just like everything else.
6. There are various qualities of paper.
7. Since Protestants believe "Sola Scriptura" and "once saved always saved", they put a lot of their donations and "missionary budget" into mass producing and distributing Bibles, as if that alone does tons of good for the world.
8. Related to #7, it is quite possible that some Prot bibles are actually SUBSIDIZED by various non-profits and/or churches, with the aim of wider distribution. The Bible is like marketing for these churches. It's part of their marketing or outreach budget.
9. In a similar vein, where do Protestant church donations go, BESIDES the pockets of the ministers? Bibles. It's not like any money goes into stained glass, golden vessels and candlesticks, or statues. Most protestant churches are "functional" at best. When a protestant widow with a $50K or $5M house is bequeathed to her church, what could that money be spent on?
10. Catholics are more likely to have just one Bible for the whole family, and let's face it, it's more of a decoration. So more likely to be fancy, hardcover, so it looks nice on the shelf. Protestants have nothing else, so they read it every day, they get one for each child, and they wear them out. So they're interested in cheap/disposable "everyday carry" versions. There's not much Catholic demand for such a Bible.
11. Even the good Catholics who familiarize themselves with and actually read the Bible are likely to do it at home, where a hardcover would be fine. Catholics read the Bible where it's not going to get beat up. But Protestants want cheap, light editions they can keep in their car, read on their lunch break,  read in the city park, take with them to prisons to read to prisoners, etc. It's a whole different mindset.
To add onto this, you can get a paperback Douay Rheims by St. Benedict Press during a $5 book sale on TAN