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Offline Kephapaulos

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Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
« on: April 07, 2024, 09:53:41 PM »
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  • I am not sure which recent thread mentioned this issue at least in part, but there are some canonizations or beatifications of the Novus Ordo that would appear to have been (at least in my opinion) where it perhaps "got it right."

    Here is a list:

    1) Padre Pio
    2) Juan Diego
    3) Maximilian Kolbe
    4) Louis Martin
    5) Zelie Martin
    6) Martín de Porres
    7) Peter Julian Eymard
    8) Hildegard von Bingen
    9) Juan de Ávila
    10) Juan Macías
    11) Elizabeth Ann Seton
    12) John Neumann
    13) Katherine Drexel
    14) Kateri Tekakwitha
    15) Rose Philippine Duchesne
    16) Solanus Casey
    17) Margaret of Castello
    *(18) Gregory of Narek (declared a doctor by Francis but was thought to have died outside communion with Rome although maybe ws technically if he actually professed and accepted the Council of Chalcedon)

    If there is a state of sede vacante right now since 9 October, 1958, none of the above named persons is actually canonized or beatified. Also there would only be 29 declared doctors of the Church with St. Anthony of Padua as the last one so declared. 
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #1 on: April 07, 2024, 10:12:21 PM »
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  • Martín de Porres and Peter Julian Eymard were canonized in 1962
    Andre Bissette The miracle worker from Quebec would be a legitimate canonization
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #2 on: April 07, 2024, 10:35:12 PM »
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  • Martín de Porres and Peter Julian Eymard were canonized in 1962
    Andre Bissette The miracle worker from Quebec would be a legitimate canonization

    If you count John XXIII and Benedict XVI as legitimate popes that is. Thank you. I forgot about Br. André Bessette. He was great promoter of devotion to Saint Joseph. 
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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #3 on: April 07, 2024, 11:11:11 PM »
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  • If you count John XXIII and Benedict XVI as legitimate popes that is. Thank you. I forgot about Br. André Bessette. He was great promoter of devotion to Saint Joseph.
    Actually I wasn't thinking of the popes, but in '62 they might still have had the devil's advocate but I'm not sure when they dispensed with him.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #4 on: August 24, 2024, 08:21:53 PM »
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  • "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)


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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #5 on: August 26, 2024, 01:18:16 AM »
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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #6 on: March 03, 2025, 09:29:50 PM »
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  • Rose Philippine Duchesne is beatified. She has a feast with proper collects in the Archdiocese of St. Louis. See the appendix in the altar missal.

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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #7 on: March 04, 2025, 05:42:40 AM »
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  • For the first millennium, the glorification of saints was by "vox fidelium". The process of canonisation is a second millennium development. In 993, St. Ulrich of Augsburg was the first saint whose glorification was declared through the canonisation process.
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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #8 on: March 04, 2025, 06:59:05 AM »
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  • If there is a state of sede vacante right now since 9 October, 1958, none of the above named persons is actually canonized or beatified. Also there would only be 29 declared doctors of the Church with St. Anthony of Padua as the last one so declared.

    And no female Doctors, which is an abomination ... with all due respect to St. Therese and St. Teresa.  EVERY saint "teaches" us something.  Like most NO conanizations, this was politically driven.  We have these DEI Doctresses from a Vatican that was woke ahead of its time.

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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #9 on: March 04, 2025, 07:02:19 AM »
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  • In the hundreds the NO has cranked out, they blind squirreled about a dozen perhaps ... but those are offset by the blasphemous conanizations of V2 AntiPopes.

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    Re: Canonizations and the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #10 on: March 04, 2025, 10:32:58 AM »
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  • Their decrees of canonization are meaningless. They don't tell us anything about a person's sanctity one way or the other. They're like the canonizations of Greek orthodox, for example.