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Offline Marcellinus

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Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2025, 05:06:35 PM »
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  • The pope never carried anything until Paul VI...
    So does the pope not carry anything in procession?
    No he doesn't carry a crozier he doesn't carry anything...you know that he's the pope he does special things you see- and no- that was invented by Paul VI
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    That's not true.. The pope has carried a ferula since at least the Middle Ages.  

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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #31 on: June 05, 2025, 05:22:05 PM »
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  • That's not true.. The pope has carried a ferula since at least the Middle Ages. 
    Those words are Bishop Sanborn's not mine.  Bishop Sanborn said the exact opposite of what you said here.  Can you find any examples?
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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #32 on: June 05, 2025, 05:26:27 PM »
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  • Those words are Bishop Sanborn's not mine.  Bishop Sanborn said the exact opposite of what you said here.  Can you find any examples?
    Maria Regina, remember, just "trust the plan". :laugh1: Where's Q Anon? :laugh2:

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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #33 on: June 05, 2025, 08:34:58 PM »
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  • Those words are Bishop Sanborn's not mine.  Bishop Sanborn said the exact opposite of what you said here.  Can you find any examples?
    A simple Google search for "papal ferula" will give you all you need.  Its use has been sporadic, but even Pius IX used one.  Ratzinger is seen here carrying the very ferula that Pius IX used.



    When did Bp. Sanborn make this statement?  Do you have evidence of this?

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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #34 on: June 05, 2025, 09:08:22 PM »
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  • A simple Google search for "papal ferula" will give you all you need.  Its use has been sporadic, but even Pius IX used one.  Ratzinger is seen here carrying the very ferula that Pius IX used.



    When did Bp. Sanborn make this statement?  Do you have evidence of this?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_ferula


    Early usage and dispute

    Traditionally, the popes did not use any ferula, crosier, or pastoral staff as part of the papal liturgy.  The use of a staff is not mentioned in descriptions of Papal Masses in the Ordines Romani. In the early days of the Church a pope would sometimes carry a crosier, but this practice disappeared by the time of Pope Innocent III. He noted in his De Sacro altaris mysterio ("Concerning the Sacred Mystery of the Altar", I, 62): "The Roman Pontiff does not use the shepherd's staff." The reason was that a crosier is often given by the metropolitan archbishop (or another bishop) to a newly elected bishop during his investiture or episcopal ordination. In contrast, the pope does not receive investiture from another bishop and is invested with the pallium during his coronation or the modern inauguration.

    Re-adoption

    During the High Middle Ages, the popes once again began using a staff known as a ferula as part of their insignia. It signified temporal power and governance, which included "the power to mete out punishment and impose penances". The actual form of the staves from this period is not well known, but they were most probably staffs topped with a knob and surmounted by a single-barred cross. The staff was not a common liturgical item, and its use was limited to a few extraordinary celebrations proper to the pope, such as the opening of the Holy Door and the consecration of churches, during which the pope "took hold of the staff to knock on the door three times and to trace the Greek and Latin letters on the floor of the church".

    Modern usage

    The pastoral staff carried by the popes since Pope Paul VI is a contemporary single-barred crucifix, designed by the Italian artist Lello Scorzelli in 1963 and carried and used in the same manner as a bishop uses his crosier. Paul VI had actually used three other ferulas, similar in style, with the other versions having a cross bar which was straight, or bent upward. Scorzelli's well-known version has the cross bar curving downward, much like the paterissa carried by bishops of the Eastern Catholic Churches.[5] Paul VI first used this staff on 8 December 1965, at the closing of the Second Vatican Council. The Scorzelli staff was the one retained by his successors, starting with Pope John Paul I. This ferula design is often associated with Pope John Paul II and is one of his identifying attributes in religious paintings and statuary.

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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #35 on: June 06, 2025, 05:13:17 AM »
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  • ”On 16 March 2008, at the [color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)]Palm Sunday[/color]celebrations in [color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)]Saint Peter's Square[/color][color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)]Pope Benedict XVI[/color] used the ferula of Pius IX.[color=var(--color-visited,#6a60b0)][6][/iurl][/font][/size][/color] “

    Why did you leave this part out?  It is from the very same Wikipedia article you quoted!

    Because it doesn’t fit the narrative of carrying a ferula somehow equates to a spawn of Satan?

    While I certainly do not believe Prevost to be a valid pope, it is this this ridiculous intellectual dishonesty that makes us look like fanatical idiots and frankly, it has to stop. 


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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #36 on: June 10, 2025, 03:55:44 PM »
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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #37 on: June 12, 2025, 09:05:59 AM »
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  • “Oh Fwancis… Fwancis… why did thou leave? Please help me be a kickass anti-pope like thee.”
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #38 on: June 12, 2025, 12:21:18 PM »
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  • From the CI thread:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/new-pope-already-preaching-nonsense/msg983685/#msg983685


    https://www.barnhardt.biz/2021/02/18/more-photo-evidence-on-the-satanist-cardinal-bernardin-his-creepy-pectoral-cross-that-antipope-bergoglio-also-wears-and-the-satanic-grand-orient/
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    I completely agree that this "pectoral cross" ugly and probably blasphemous and maybe satanic, but I think some of Ann's arguments are unconvincing.

    For example, Ann says the animals that appear to be sheep are actually pigs (unclean animals for Jews), and that they are standing in flames (which represent the fires of hell). I honestly can't see either one of those in the image. The image is ugly and modernistic, and of course the "sheep" are ugly and distorted, but they really don't look like pigs to me.

    That being said, I agree with the rest of the analysis. And I'm extremely curious what the weird backwards foot is all about, and I'm sure it's something abhorrent.

    The Novus Ordo loves crucifixes without the crucified Christ. The cross was the means of execution by which Our Lord was put to death. It makes no sense to show a crucifix without Our Lord being crucified upon it. So the risen Christ crucifixes, or the ones with the stupid kneeling toddler attached to it, or the "Good Shepherd crucifix" as here are all modernist. I'm pretty sure I heard once that the risen Christ crucifix was condemned by the Church before Vatican 2.

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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #39 on: June 12, 2025, 12:50:37 PM »
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  • The Handshake: Leo and Vance

    CAPTION:  "Thanks for knocking off Bergoglio for me, so I could become pope."

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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #40 on: June 12, 2025, 02:46:23 PM »
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    I completely agree that this "pectoral cross" ugly and probably blasphemous and maybe satanic, but I think some of Ann's arguments are unconvincing.

    For example, Ann says the animals that appear to be sheep are actually pigs (unclean animals for Jews), and that they are standing in flames (which represent the fires of hell). I honestly can't see either one of those in the image. The image is ugly and modernistic, and of course the "sheep" are ugly and distorted, but they really don't look like pigs to me.

    That being said, I agree with the rest of the analysis. And I'm extremely curious what the weird backwards foot is all about, and I'm sure it's something abhorrent.

    The Novus Ordo loves crucifixes without the crucified Christ. The cross was the means of execution by which Our Lord was put to death. It makes no sense to show a crucifix without Our Lord being crucified upon it. So the risen Christ crucifixes, or the ones with the stupid kneeling toddler attached to it, or the "Good Shepherd crucifix" as here are all modernist. I'm pretty sure I heard once that the risen Christ crucifix was condemned by the Church before Vatican 2.
    Here is a perfect example of what you just said about modernist risen Christ "crucifixes":

    Pope Leo XIV leads a procession through the Holy Door of St. Peter's
    VATICAN - 2025/06/09: Pope Leo XIV leads a procession through the Holy Door of St. Peter's Basilica on the occasion of the Jubilee of the Holy See in Vatican City  (He also processed with it into PVI Hall)



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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
    « Reply #41 on: June 16, 2025, 12:55:49 PM »
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  • What kind of imagery is this on his chasuble?
    It looks to me like an hour glass or an X- not a cross.  It looks like it is surrounded by snakes. I have never seen 2 birds like this with an occult looking vine, and below that 2 birds with a chalice. The cross above the chalice is also very strange.  This photo is from Leo's inauguration "Mass."

    See the link below to enlarge the details- especially on the bottom cross with the 2 birds:
    https://www.gettyimages.ae/detail/news-photo/pope-leo-xiv-takes-the-inauguration-mass-of-pope-leo-xiv-in-news-photo/2215670451?adppopup=true
    https://www.fromrome.info/2025/06/16/cardinal-prevost-gives-masonic-hand-sign-while-throwing-holy-water/
    Cardinal Prevost gives Masonic Hand-Sign while throwing Holy Water
    June 16, 2025 Editor 5 Comments

    Editor’s Note: The hand held over the center of the chest is the Masonic sign of being a member of their diabolic fraternity. — This gesture, which is called “the sign of fidelity”, is made when the hand is placed over the chest, with the thumb raised. Here Prevost places hand and thumb over a square-design in his liturgical vestments, thus indicating, “a thumb over the square'”. or fidelity to the Masonic Order. (See comments below).
    Prevost may have joined the Lodge in his youth, since the Spencer Cook Masonic Lodge is about 3 miles from Cardinal Prevost’s boyhood neighborhood of Dolton, Illinois.
    Just like Bergoglio, the Master Mason who recruited him in 2014:

    That Pope Francis was a Freemason is known from the Vatican security chief in the Nunciature of Argentina, whose phone call, intercepted by the Argentinian Police caught him admitting it, as FromRome.Info reported in February of 2020 A. D.:

    Msgr. Prevost’s friend of 30 years assures us that Prevost will continue the revolution of Pope Francis, but with more vestments and incense. Click the images to read the articles.


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    “Keep the forms, change the contents”, itself, is Masonic language taken from the trade of stone-masons, who replace old stones with new ones of the same shape and size, but not the same stone. It is coded language for removing ineffective persons from power and putting more effective Freemasons in their place: or in other words, “He will continue the infiltration of the Church, changing her into the Church of the Antichrist”. And this reading seems to be what the Bishops round the world are doing, who are taking the occasion of Prevost being “selected” as a “full ahead”! on attacking the Latin Mass and other traditional pius practices of Catholics toward the Eucharist.

    “On the Square” is also a Masonic phrase meaning, “I am a member of the Lodge”. Thus, even the vestments of Prevost, which show two intertwined snakes surrounding a Square, shouts the same message.

    The amazing reality of the top image of Prevost is about as blantant as can be found, because there is absolutely no Catholic signs in any part of the image, but there are two Masonic signs. 

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    Re: More on anti-Christ pectoral cross
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    This account of a trans guy who dresses like a nun was regularly shared by the new “pope”. Of course the account was since deleted about the same time the sɛҳuąƖly abused from his former diocese were paid off.

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