This is what I mean:

Here's the entry on "anathema" from a Catholic dictionary I posted a link to in the Library forum:

You're either lying or so ignorant / stupid that you didn't even understand what you were saying (either one is possible).  You have regularly argued that Baptism suffices for membership in the Church, citing Father Wathen (your rule of faith) along those lines.  We've spent countless threads arguing about it, where you even tried to explain away Pope Pius XII as saying the opposite of what he actually taught, namely, that heresy and schism sever membership in the Catholic Church.

If I had the time, I would find all your nonsense with the CI search engine, but you have been making this absurd claim for YEARS now.

Not to mention that you contradict yourself in this idiotic post.  First you deny that you ever said that Baptism sufficed for membership, but then you claim that there are many theologians who hold this opinion (that you now claim you don't hold).  No, there was exactly one theologian, and Msgr. Fenton named his name and explained that his position died with him.

augustinees cited the Canonist Morato on another thread:

Let m guess, another 19th/20th century theologian, right?

Your other stupidity is the argument that the Magisterium is inerrant, but then you claim that any errors taught by the Pope are simply not "Magisterium".  So if the Pope teaches and it happens to be true, then it's Magisterium, but if a Pope teaches something erroneous, then it's not Magisterium.  So you defined Magisterium as the true things that a Pope happens to teach in his official teaching capacity, a definition that absolutely no one holds.

We declare, moreover, that, whether one considers its existence or its constitution, the Church of Christ is an everlasting and indefectible society, and that, after it, no more complete nor more perfect economy of salvation is to be hoped for in this world. For, to the very end of the world the pilgrims of this earth are to be saved through Christ. Consequently, his Church, the only society of salvation, will last until the end of the world ever unchangeable and unchanged in its constitution. Therefore, although the Church is growing—and We wish that it may always grow in faith and charity for the upbuilding of Christ's body—although it evolves in a variety of ways according to the changing times and circuмstances in which it is constantly displaying activity, nevertheless, it remains unchangeable in itself and in the constitution it received from Christ. Therefore, Christ's Church can never lose its properties and its qualities, its sacred teaching authority, priestly office, and governing body, so that through his visible body, Christ may always be the way, the truth, and the life for all men.


Jesuit Fathers of St. Mary's College. The Church Teaches: Docuмents of the Church in English Translation . TAN Books. Kindle Edition.

You spent nearly the entirety of this thread here arguing that heretics are members of the Church.
https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/bergolio-says-there-many-restorers-in-usa-who-do-not-accept-vatican-ii/msg830346/#msg830346

Nobody even ever heard of Marato. I would like to know how long or how many books he had to page through for Fr. Cekada to find someone who fit his narrative.

This is no "narrative" by Father Cekada.  As I said, you're entitled to disagree and basically hold the Cajetan / John of St. Thomas opinion, as Father Chazal does, but you're not entitled to pretend that the Bellarmine opinion is made up by "sedes", some kind of invented narrative.  There are many others beside Morato who say the same thing.  Part of the problem is, as Decem pointed out, your notion of "Divine Law" is distorted / confused.  God never issued a Canon Law.  What's meant by divine law is something that proceeds inherently from the way that God has designed the Church, by the very definitions of Catholic ecclesiology.  So, when St. Robert states that someone cannot be head of the Church who is not a member, that is considered to be a position from divine law, meaning, from the nature of the Church as constituted by God.