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Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2022, 03:25:49 PM »
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  • Don't forget Fatima-
    Ratzinger, Sodano and Bertone put out that fraudulent (by omission) third secret in 2000...plus the continued promulgation of the fake Sister Lucy. It's all so awful. I pray he repented. There is so much to repent from.

    Wanted: The Gang of 8 Who Hijacked Fatima. If This Is a Criminal Investigation, these are the Obvious Suspects and the As Yet Unindicted Co-Conspirators. (chojnowski.me)
    And no doubt, Ratzinger knew all about the demise of the real Sister Lucia.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #91 on: December 31, 2022, 03:30:10 PM »
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  • I don't think it's a dilemma.  We can do both, pray for his soul AND "judge him acording to Catholic teaching," i.e. denounce his heresies.  As for whether he could have repented, well of course it's possible.  Now, the one possibility with him is that he did have nearly 10 years in retirement / seclusion to reflect on his life.  If he did repent, would his handlers (as he was hardly independently mobile toward the end) allow him to come out with a statement or speech to denouce his errors?

    We do have to be careful when praying for him publicly (by which I mean in public vs. by offering the Mass or public prayer of the Church for him, which is not permitted) that we do not give the false impression that there's good hope for his salvation.  We pray for him publicly while expressing sorrow that he's likely not bee saved.

    OK I'll settle for that Ladislaus.

    Time now to wait to see if St Malachy's last Pope is Francis.

    In 1139, then-Archbishop Malachy went to Rome from Ireland to give an account of his affairs. While there, he received a strange vision about the future that included the name of every pope, 112 in all from his time, who would rule until the end of time. We are now at the second last prophecy.

    As for the prophecy concerning the 111th pope, Pope Benedict, the prophecy says of him, "Gloria Olivae," which means "the glory of the olive."

    St. Malachy gave an account of his visions to Pope Innocent II, but the docuмent remained unknown in the Roman archives until its discovery in 1590.

    Here is what they say about JPII

    Pope John Paul II is De labore Solis, meaning "of the eclipse of the sun." Karol Wojtyla, who would become Pope John Paul II, was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse.
    Nonsense, De Labore Solis means THE WORK OF THE SUN. And isn't JPII the one who told the world after his 12 year papal commission on Galileo that the Church was wrong and heliocentrism was right.

    "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

    Now Is Francis Peter the Roman., or is Francis not a real pope and there is some other real pope to come?


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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #92 on: December 31, 2022, 03:38:03 PM »
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  • So much for the prediction that two popes die the same night.

    Thought the same thing, but there's something strange about 12/31/22 being Benedict's death date?

    It reminds me of rabbinic accounting practices.  "Time to start a new masonic 2023 ledger." 

    They always choose a special date for when they murder their stooges.

    Recall how Pope JPII's death was manipulated?  He was said to have died on a Saturday, but he actually died the day before.

    The media even colored up the story, saying as the crowd at St. Peter's finished some prayers for him, he rose up, said "Amen" and died. :laugh1:

    That extra day allowed the Opus judei to sign-off on multiple docs in his name. 

    And TIA even found evidence that JPII had been euthanized based on contradictory content of medical report released to the press.


    Folks, it's all one big Hollywood show.  Don't believe anything the media announces.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #93 on: December 31, 2022, 03:45:14 PM »
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  • Right, but theologians hold that people receive various "graces of state" even outside the Sacraments per se.
    Ok this clarifies for me, thank you 

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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #94 on: December 31, 2022, 03:46:05 PM »
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  • Bookies regarding the next "Pope" --
    https://www.newsweek.com/black-asian-pope-tipped-succeed-francis-if-he-resigns-1717474

    odds from Bookmaker "Paddy Power"

    4:1 Peter Turkson (Ghana)
    6:1 Luis Tagle (Phillipines)
    6:1 Angelo Scola (Italy)
    7:1 Marc Oullet (Canada)
    8:1 Christoph Shonborn (Austria)
    8:1 Raymond Burke (US)

    Turkson -- 74 years old, "ordained" 1975, "consecrated" 1993
    all I could find about him (apart from being criticized for giving a speech about Islam overrunning Europe)
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    In October 2011, Turkson called for the establishment of a "global public authority" and a "central world bank" to rule over financial institutions that have become outdated and often ineffective in dealing fairly with crises.

    Tagle -- 65 years old, "ordained" 1982, "consecrated" 2001
    Jesuit-educated, sometimes called the "Pope Francis of Asia", believes Church should consider eliminating priestly celibacy to combat priest shortage
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    In a March 2015 interview, Tagle said the Catholic Church needed to develop a new language for addressing ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, unwed mothers, and divorced and remarried Catholics because "what constituted in the past an acceptable way of showing mercy" changes and needs to be re-imagined. ... Following the publication of Pope Francis' encyclical Laudato si', Cardinal Tagle launched a campaign in the Philippines to collect signatures for a petition against anthropogenic global warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions. ... As the Synod on the Family opened public discussion of allowing divorced and remarried Catholics to receive communion, Tagle said he was open to hearing arguments on the question. He said: "We have a principle we have to believe in. But the openness comes on pastoral judgments you have to make in concrete situations, because no two cases are alike." ... "In our country there is no law on divorce. But people do divorce out of love. Fathers and mothers separate out of love for their children and one of them goes to the other side of the world to work. These separations are triggered by love. In the Philippines and countries affected by migration, we must, as a Church, accompany these people, help them to be faithful to their wives and husbands." ... Tagle served from 1995 to 2001 as one of more than 50 members of the editorial board of the five-volume, 2,500-page History of Vatican II. Completed after discussions at 14 international conferences with contributions from over 100 scholars, it is seen as the seminal work on the Second Vatican Council. It has been criticized by some conservatives for providing an overly progressive reading of the Council.

    Scola -- 81 years old, "ordained" 1970, "consecrated" 1991
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    In 2018, Scola expressed his opposition to Communion for the divorced and civilly remarried unless they live in complete continence, the possibility of which has been the focus of controversy surrounding Pope Francis's apostolic exhortation Amoris laetitia. Scola said withholding Communion is "not a punishment that can be taken away or reduced, but is inherent in the very character of Christian marriage". ... Scola supports stronger ecuмenical ties between Catholicism and Islam "at a grassroots level" believing that there is much common ground between the two faiths, particularly, addressing persecution of Christian communities in the Middle East which Scola focuses on. ... Scola has said in the past that it is also his duty to connect with the Orthodox faithful living in his archdiocese, "giving them churches where they can celebrate the divine liturgy and our experience of a greatly fraternal relationship". The cardinal has also said that while doctrinal and theological differences may linger, it was essential to recognize and collaborate on tackling common issues "like the family, justice, life". ... In a 2012 conference, Scola refuted the idea of the Second Vatican Council being a battle of continuity versus discontinuity, suggesting instead that the docuмents that were promulgated during the Council only further enriched the Church by expanding upon previous magisterial teachings. Scola said that "there is no animosity between Vatican II as an event and as a body of docuмents, but rather conformity". ... Scola favors celebrating the Tridentine Mass and has defended Pope Benedict's 2007 authorization of its wider use alongside other conservative cardinals such as Camillo Ruini and Carlo Caffarra. In Padua in 2017, he issued a strong defense of the Mass and when he became archbishop of Milan immediately sought to reverse his predecessor's restrictions on its use. He took similar actions as patriarch of Venice.

    Ouellet -- 78 years old,  ordained May 1968 (before new Rite), "consecrated" 2001
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    did his doctoral disseration on Hans Urs Von Balthasaar (bad new, believed hell might be empty) ... On 21 November 2007, in a letter published in Quebec French-language newspapers, Ouellet apologized for what he described as past "errors" of the Roman Catholic Church in Quebec. Among the errors he wrote about were attitudes, prior to 1960, which promoted "anti-Semitism, racism, indifference to First Nations and discrimination against women and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs." ... In May 2010 Ouellet stood by his comments that abortion is unjustifiable, even in the case of rape, and urged the federal government to help pregnant women keep their child. He said that "Governments are funding clinics for abortion. I would like equity for organizations that are defending also life. ...  In September 2018, discussing the priestly sɛҳuąƖ abuse crisis, Ouellet said "we will need more participation of women in the formation of priests, in teaching, in the discernment of candidates and their emotional balance".  In October he told the Synod of Bishops on Young People that it was "possible and necessary to accelerate the processes of struggle against the 'machista' culture and clericalism, to develop respect for women and the recognition of their charisms as well as their equal integration in the life of society and the church". ... On August 8, 2022, a class-action lawsuit named Ouellet as the assailant of an unnamed woman (referred to as "F") who accused the cleric of kissing her, at a cocktail reception in 2008. "F" alleged that Ouellet massaged her shoulders and slid his hand down her back, touching her buttocks. No criminal charges have been laid. Ouellet has denied the sɛҳuąƖ assault allegation, calling it "defamatory".  "F" had reportedly written to Pope Francis about Ouellet in January 2021. Following this, the Vatican began an internal preliminary investigation against Ouellet in February 2021, led by Jesuit priest and theologian Jacques Servais. On August 18, 2022, the Vatican dropped its investigation into Ouellet, after Pope Francis determined that there was not sufficient evidence to begin a canonical investigation.  In December 2022, Ouellet filed a defamation lawsuit in Quebec courts, arguing that he was falsely accused of sɛҳuąƖ assault.

    Schonborn -- 77 years old, "ordained" 1970, "consecrated" 1991
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    In January 2009, Gerhard Maria Wagner was appointed by the Vatican, without consultation with the Austrian bishops' conference, as an auxiliary bishop of Linz, Austria. Wagner was known for highly conservative views, in particular for blaming the Hurricane Katrina on the sins of the New Orleans' ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs and abortionists. Wagner's appointment generated widespread protests in Austria and a boycott by many priests of the Linz diocese. Schönborn quickly joined the public criticism of the appointment. Schönborn made an emergency trip to Rome and in mid-February 2009 Wagner was thus persuaded to resign his post at Linz. ... In September 2012 Schönborn again "backed celibacy for priests, limiting ordination to men and preserving marriage as a life-long commitment" and reiterated a warning to the dissident clergy that they faced serious consequences if they continued to advocate disobedience to the Vatican. ... Schönborn has been described as a "conciliatory pragmatist who is open to dialogue." ,,, On 1 December 2018, he allowed a controversial rock performance to take place in St. Stephen Cathedral to raise money for HIV patients. The event was held to benefit the Brotherhood of Blessed Gérard, a hospice in South Africa run by the Sovereign Military Order of Malta for people dying of AIDS. In the previous year, Cardinal Schönborn, the Order of Malta, and Gery Keszler's LGBT Life Ball organized a Mass to remember World Aids Day. ... Schönborn is a member of the Elijah Interfaith Institute Board of World Religious Leaders.  In May 2017, Schönborn published an approbation in regards to the Orthodox Rabbinic Statement on Christianity entitled To Do the Will of Our Father in Heaven: Toward a Partnership between Jews and Christians which was published two years beforehand by the Israel-based Center for Jєωιѕн–Christian Understanding and Cooperation (CJCUC). ... In 2006, Schönborn published an article on the relationship between Catholicism and Islam, noting that both are missionary religions and interfaith dialog is often seen as an alternative to the missionary impulse. He advised that dialog focus on "How is mission situated in respect of freedom of conscience and of religion? How is it situated in respect of the requirements of a plural world?", while addressing "openly the dangers of intolerance, of attacks on religious freedom". ... In a September 2015 interview, he said that the Church's ministers should recognise what is good where it is found. For example, he said, a civil marriage is better than simply living together, because it signifies a couple has made a formal, public commitment to one another. "Instead of talking about everything that is missing, we can draw close to this reality, noting what is positive in this love that is establishing itself." Schönborn described a gαy friend of his who, after many temporary relationships, is now in a stable relationship. "It's an improvement. They share "a life, they share their joys and sufferings, they help one another. It must be recognised that this person took an important step for his own good and the good of others, even though it certainly is not a situation the Church can consider 'regular'." ... In an opinion piece that appeared in The New York Times on 7 July 2005, Schönborn accepted the possibility of evolution but criticised certain "neo-Darwinian" theories as incompatible with Catholic teaching:  Evolution in the sense of common ancestry might be true, but evolution in the neo-Darwinian sense – an unguided, unplanned process of random variation and natural selection – is not. Any system of thought that denies or seeks to explain away the overwhelming evidence for design in biology is ideology, not science.  The director of the Vatican Observatory, George Coyne, SJ, criticized Schönborn's view and pointed to Pope John Paul II's declaration that "evolution is no longer a mere hypothesis" and Catholic physicist Stephen Barr wrote a critique which evoked several replies, including a lengthy one from Schönborn. ... In April 2012, the election of a young gαy man, who was living in a registered same-sex partnership, to a pastoral council in Vienna was vetoed by the parish priest. After meeting with the couple, Schönborn reinstated him. He later advised in a homily that priests must apply a pastoral approach that is "neither rigorist nor lax" in counselling Catholics who "don't live according to [God's] master plan". ... 

    Burke -- 74 years old, "ordained" 1975, "consecrated" 1995
    *** we all know Burke, so no point here, traditional leanings, opposed Amoris Laetitia, sympathetic to Tridentine Mass, but allowed tranny nun earlier in "career".  Also later said SSPX were in schism and criticized Bergoglio for giving them partial jurisdiction.

    I always found it interesting that Burke is considered the most "Traditional" among the current Cardinals, and that he started as Bishop of LaCrosse, Wisconsin, in the territory of which was SSPX St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary.


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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #95 on: December 31, 2022, 03:58:12 PM »
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  • Since Ratzinger resigned I've read all sorts of rumors that he was blackmailed into it in order
    to prevent scandal.
    It never made any sense because there are only a couple things he could be blackmailed with,
    either more information that he was complicit with the never ending sɛҳuąƖ scandals or financial
    malfeasance.
    Well, it's a little bloody late to avoid scandal attaching itself to the papacy.
    In the eyes of the average NO attendee JPII's handling of Bernard Law or Francis's pilfering of
    Peter's Pence for London real estate didn't make any difference.
    I don't think Pacahama or James Martin being made the next pope would affect them.

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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #96 on: December 31, 2022, 04:13:11 PM »
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  • I have a different theory.  Ratzinger's job, the one for which he was groomed by being re-invented as a Traditionlist, God's "Rottweiler" and "enforcer" by administering worthless slaps on the wrist to the likes of Kung and Rahner, was to re-absorb SSPX and Traditional Catholicism.  When he failed due to the infamous Bishop Williamson interview, he was told to step aside and make way for Jorge to take the destruction to the next level.
    I agree. Along with the admission of the 300 page Vatican homo-dossier and the scandal of  Benedict's butler stealing correspondence to expose the filth apparently hidden from Benedict; the job of absorbing the SSPX into the Consiliar Church was thwarted by the Bishop Williamson's "h0Ɩ0cαųst" video. Benedict was toast.

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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #97 on: December 31, 2022, 04:13:34 PM »
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  • Where would this forum be without Meg's comic relief?

    I suppose we’d have to endure idiotic tales of Fr. Luigi Villa saving the Church?

    PS: Have you been able to come up with a single priest professing the  unadulterated faith (per even your own subjective criteria) yet?

    No?

    Why not?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #98 on: December 31, 2022, 04:25:33 PM »
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  • And more:

    https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2013/02/23/gαy-cabal-forces-benedicts-resignation-calm-collected-reflections-on-the-media-furor/

    So, neither analyist thinks that the homo cabal forced Ratzinger to resign, but there is this intersting piece (that lines up with my theory) --
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    For the most part, one has to take the pope at his word: He’s stepping aside because he’s old and tired, not because of any particular crisis.

    That said, I don’t believe you can completely discount the cuмulative impact of the various meltdowns over the last eight years on Benedict’s state of mind. Read Benedict’s anguished letter to the bishops of the world back in 2009, at the peak of the frenzy over the lifting of the excommunication of a h0Ɩ0cαųst-denying bishop, and it’s crystal clear he was both pained by the criticism it generated and frustrated the Vatican hadn’t handled the whole thing more effectively.

    So the Bennyvacantists can thank Bishop Richard Williamson for their problems :laugh1:.

    My take is different, that it wasn't because Ratzinger was "distressed" because because the incident sabotaged the main reason his handlers put him into office.

    As for Ratzinger being "upset" that there were more gαys in the Vatican than expected, the commentators both agreed that this would not have come as much of a surprise to him (nobody who isn't stupid would be surprised by it).

    Then there's this ...


    and this ...

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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #99 on: December 31, 2022, 04:27:31 PM »
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  • Benedict's butler stealing correspondence to expose the filth apparently hidden from Benedict;

    Benedict's reaction:  "Why was't I invited to these sodomite orgies?"

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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #100 on: December 31, 2022, 04:35:27 PM »
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  • Benedict's reaction:  "Why was't I invited to these sodomite orgies?"
    So because you can't receive "thumbs down" you have to act like a jerk?

    A soul has just gone to it's final judgement.  Christian charity demands we pray for it not bring up all the person's past faults or make fun of him or attribute things to him that are negative.

    Seminary didn't do you much good did it!

    May God have mercy on him...and you too.
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #101 on: December 31, 2022, 05:00:14 PM »
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  • I don't know that it's "in good taste" to judge Pope Benedict AT ALL here on the day of his death.

    Just for starters, it's not our place. Talk about "above my pay grade"!

    A soul has gone to its Judgment. Not just any soul, but a soul that had been given GREAT responsibility and power. What Office is higher than that of Pope? The thought of a Pope being judged by God is enough to make anyone -- with a deep internalization of the Faith -- speechless. (Even Sedevacantists should be included in this number, as Pope Benedict was accepted as Pope and given the powers of a Pope, to do good or evil. Think of all the influence and power the man had. So God would still judge him accordingly, even if he HADN'T BEEN the actual Pope for some reason.)

    Even judging "by Catholic principles" seems wrong here. You just don't put the deceased through an ad-hoc trial, dredging up everything the deceased has done and try to "play God" or "simulate their Particular Judgment" in the hopes of figuring out the outcome (Heaven, Hell or Purgatory). You don't canonize the deceased either, as is done at most Novus Ordo funerals. What SHOULD we do, as the Catholic militant? That Catholic Church would have us pray for him, and She (in Her true Liturgy) would bring to everyone's mind the thought of death, Judgment, Hell, and Heaven (The Four Last Things), and have us remember that we all must pass by the same Judgment-Seat. This meditation would be beneficial for our own spiritual lives. Each funeral would be a wake-up call, a mini-retreat, a chance to think deeply and take stock of our spiritual lives.

    Heck, non-Catholics know better than to speak ill of the dead, or to be "a jerk". There's something to be said for adhering to HUMAN social norms, a.k.a. being "socially acceptable". Some Trads could learn a lot from the average "socially acceptable" decent human being, Catholic or not. Grace builds upon nature, it doesn't replace or destroy it. Is politeness and human decency too much to ask from some Trads, just because those aren't supernatural virtues or something?

    If this hits close to home for any member(s), just know that my intention wasn't to attack or offend anyone in particular. I'm just stating the truth to the best of my ability.
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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #102 on: December 31, 2022, 05:05:13 PM »
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  • "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End."

    Now Is Francis Peter the Roman., or is Francis not a real pope and there is some other real pope to come?

    Don't know.  I think the Dimonds have an explanation for this that I found not entirely implausible.  Others seem to think there's a gap between the Glory of Olive and "..." Peter the Roman.  Or he may have left some of the Antipopes off, perhaps those who are not legitimate bishops, i.e. Ratzinger and Bergoglio, so that the Glory of the Olive would be the upcoming Holy Pope.  Who knows, right?  It's all speculation at this point ... as I too was speculating.

    I think one of the most important things to take away from Catholic prophecy is that there will be an apostasy or falling away at or toward the end, and ultimately a "Man of Sin" ... and these were left to help the faithful keep the faith so that they're not scandalized by it.  If we weren't told there would be this apostasy ahead of time, how many more of us could have lost the faith in watching what happened at Vatican II and in its wake?

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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #103 on: December 31, 2022, 05:18:06 PM »
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  • I don't know that it's "in good taste" to judge Pope Benedict AT ALL here on the day of his death.

    Just for starters, it's not our place. Talk about "above my pay grade"!

    A soul has gone to its Judgment. Not just any soul, but a soul that had been given GREAT responsibility and power. What Office is higher than that of Pope? The thought of a Pope being judged by God is enough to make anyone -- with a deep internalization of the Faith -- speechless. (Even Sedevacantists should be included in this number, as Pope Benedict was accepted as Pope and given the powers of a Pope, to do good or evil. Think of all the influence and power the man had. So God would still judge him accordingly, even if he HADN'T BEEN the actual Pope for some reason.)

    Even judging "by Catholic principles" seems wrong here. You just don't put the deceased through an ad-hoc trial, dredging up everything the deceased has done and try to "play God" or "simulate their Particular Judgment" in the hopes of figuring out the outcome (Heaven, Hell or Purgatory). You don't canonize the deceased either, as is done at most Novus Ordo funerals. What SHOULD we do, as the Catholic militant? That Catholic Church would have us pray for him, and She (in Her true Liturgy) would bring to everyone's mind the thought of death, Judgment, Hell, and Heaven (The Four Last Things), and have us remember that we all must pass by the same Judgment-Seat. This meditation would be beneficial for our own spiritual lives. Each funeral would be a wake-up call, a mini-retreat, a chance to think deeply and take stock of our spiritual lives.

    Heck, non-Catholics know better than to speak ill of the dead, or to be "a jerk". There's something to be said for adhering to HUMAN social norms, a.k.a. being "socially acceptable". Some Trads could learn a lot from the average "socially acceptable" decent human being, Catholic or not. Grace builds upon nature, it doesn't replace or destroy it. Is politeness and human decency too much to ask from some Trads, just because those aren't supernatural virtues or something?

    If this hits close to home for any member(s), just know that my intention wasn't to attack or offend anyone in particular. I'm just stating the truth to the best of my ability.

    Hey, Matthew.  I think you're right in general, and nobody here does not wish that Joseph Ratzinger was saved, but I think it's perfectly legitimate to judge his "papacy".  We have the Bennyvacantists who upheld him as this bulwark of Tradition, and that needs to be exposed for their good.  Joseph Ratzinger was a Modernist and I only got through about half of the Dimond video listing his heresies before I started to get nauseous.  It was a lot worse than people think.  People remember him for the Motu and speaking in Latin, and being "friendly" to the Traditional Catholics.  As I said, I challenge people to watch that video without getting ill ...

    He made statements indicating that the Jєωιѕн interpretation of the Old Testament as not unequivocally pointing to Christ as the Messiah was equally legitimate as the Christian/Catholic one, and said that the Jєωs could find salvation in their expectation of their Messiah.

    He disparaged and rejected as illegitimate infant Baptism ... which is open heresy.

    His statements about religious indifferentism are worse than those made by Wojtyla ... repeatedly claiming that non-Catholic schismatics and Protestants were made "Pastors" over the faithful by God and by the Holy Spirit.  He repeatedly praised Judaism and Islam.

    That one Brother Roger of Taize, a non-Catholic, not only did Ratzinger give him Holy Communion, but when Brother Roger died, Ratzinger put out a letter in which he proclaimed that Taize had been welcomed into eternal joy ... completely rejecting the dogma No Salvation Outside the Church.

    Ratzinger questioned or doubted the "Resurrecton of the Body," although this one COULD possibly be read as saying that it was not JUST the body but the entire PERSON that would be raised ... but it sure doesn't sound like that and is a huge cause of scandal.

    Ratzinger rejected "ecuмenism of return", i.e. conversion of non-Catholics, declaring that people can and are saved "in great numbers" outside the Church.

    Ratzinger repeatedly praised Luther, was responsible for the Join Declaration on Justification, claimed that Trent's condemnation of the Lutheran heresies didn't apply, disparaged Trent as causing harm by being inexact in defining the priesthood, etc.

    And these are just the ones I recall offhand.

    Bishop Tissier stated that his heresies regarding justification and redemption were worse than those of Luther.

    Joseph Ratzinger was no conservative Traditionalist.

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    Re: Benedict XVI dead at 95
    « Reply #104 on: December 31, 2022, 05:37:41 PM »
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  • So because you can't receive "thumbs down" you have to act like a jerk?

    A soul has just gone to it's final judgement.  Christian charity demands we pray for it not bring up all the person's past faults or make fun of him or attribute things to him that are negative.

    Seminary didn't do you much good did it!

    May God have mercy on him...and you too.

    Thank you for posting the above. Well said. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29