The new mass teaches a new theology; it is a protestantization of the mass; it is an abomination which is anti-Trent and anti-Catholic in its liturgy. One can have all the schooling in the world, but if you attend the new mass (or accept it, as the indult'ers do), you are accepting error. This acceptance, in and of itself, is a theological and doctrinal problem.
How exactly does the Mass itself teach theology?
?? There's plenty of books out there which related the history of Traditionalists in the 60s and 70s. How they left their diocese (or rather, most of them were kicked out of their churches for challenging the priests and bishops and causing "disruptions".) They left the new religion and found priests who did the same. They had masses in hotels, basements and garages. They slowly grew in organization until they eventually bought chapels and then started schools. Once +ABL consecrated the 4 bishops in the mid 80s and there was a growth of priests, the sspx helped to spread the faith and say mass at these chapels that were started by catholics in the 70s. Those of the 60s, 70s and early 80s laid the groundwork for Traditionalism as we see it today.
What on Earth are you on about? What does any of this have to do with people attending NO masses?
Your view of the indult mass is very myopic. The new-bishops do not have the faith; new-rome does not have the faith; most new-priests do not have the faith; even most indult-priests do not have the FULL faith.
You're a sedevacantist then. That's swell and all, but most Trads aren't and don't agree with you there. So while conservative NOers might recognise and follow a false hierarchy, so do the SSPX and most Trads at the end of the day. So again, not something that only they are guilty of.
You seem to think that one can attend the indult mass for 2 hrs on sunday and not be affected by all the other unorthodox, scandalous, blasphemous, heretical ideals, people, priests and information that engulfs a diocese the other 166 hours of the week. Are you denying that new-rome promotes a gαy-friendly atmosphere? Do you deny that after the Synod, new-rome promotes a divorce-friendly atmosphere? Do you deny that new-rome promotes an NFP/immoral atmosphere? I could go on and on. No one who goes to a diocese approved church can avoid these scandals, which are a temptation to one's Faith, an unnecessary occasion of sin.
First of all, indults are irrelevant and you need to stop bringing them up as strawmen. Secondly, your strange idea that every diocese is hosting gαy pride parades every Tuesday is both untrue and absurd. You live in some wacko world where every NO church is some gαy orgy zoo. It's not. Why should sins and sacrileges of other dioceses matter to some random Catholic going to the same parish that has nothing to do with that nonsense that he's been going to for decades? As for the promotions of new Rome, again what has that to do with the Mass? The Mass is separate from the heresies of Bishops and the Pope. You could argue that they should realise the Pope is a formal heretic and therefore not the Pope(and
therefore the NO isn't valid), but the SSPX and the majority of Trads still recognise the Pope despite of his heresies. So random NOer #1296056 is no more guilty of those things for recognising the Pope, in spite of his false teachings, than SSPX attendee #23275
Generally speaking, human nature only improves to the level of its environment. We owe God our best; we owe God the best liturgy, the best schools, the best of ourselves - which is to become a saint. Generally speaking, the indult catholics receive a mix of old and new theology, a mix of truth and half-truth, a mix of orthodoxy and novelty and this is not the best that God deserves. It is the not the best for their souls. God demands our "first fruits", especially in religion.
What do indults have to do with this at all? Read the title of the thread again.
Topic: Avoid the Novus Ordo Mass, yes. Not every Catholic who attends it! (Read 9600 times)