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Online Everlast22

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Re: Something sinister is afoot here
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2024, 10:45:49 AM »
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  •  Sometimes politeness does not suffice in the face of grave error.  
    Saint Pius X would definitely agree with you on that one :laugh1:

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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #46 on: November 11, 2024, 10:46:21 AM »
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  • Saint Alphonsus: "5. In a word, obscene tongues are the ruin of the world. One of them does more mischief than a hundred devils; because it is the cause of the perdition of many souls. This is not my language; it is the language of the Holy Ghost. ”A slippery mouth worketh ruin.” (Prov. xxvi. 28.) And when is it that this havoc of souls is effected, and that such grievous insults are offered to God? It is in the summer, at the time when God bestows upon you the greatest temporal blessings. It is then that he supplies you for the entire year with corn, wine, oil, and other fruits of the earth. It is then that there are as many sins committed by obscene words, as there are grains of corn or bunches of grapes. O ingratitude! How does God bear with us? And who is the cause of these sins? They who speak immodestly are the cause of them. Hence they must render an account to God, and shall be punished for all the sins committed by those who hear them. “But I will require his blood at thy hand.” (Ezec. iii. 11.) But let us pass to the second point."




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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #47 on: November 11, 2024, 10:47:46 AM »
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  • Saint Alphonsus, continued: "4. The misfortune is, that the mouths of hell that frequently utter immodest words, regard them, as trifles, and are careless about confessing them: and when rebuked for them they answer: ”I say these words in jest, and without malice.” In jest! Unhappy man, these jests make the devil laugh, and shall make you weep for eternity in hell. In the first place, it is useless to say that you utter such words without malice; for, when you use such expressions, it is very difficult for you to abstain from acts against purity. According to St. Jerome, “He that delights in words is not far from the act.” Besides, immodest words spoken before persons of a different sex, are always accompanied with sinful complacency. And is not the scandal you give to others criminal? Utter a single obscene word, and you shall bring into sin all who listen to you. Such is the doctrine of St. Bernard. ”One speaks, and he utters only one word; but he kills the souls of a multitude of hearers.” (Serm. xxiv. in Cant.) A greater sin than if, by one discharge of a blunderbuss, you murdered many persons; because you would then only kill their bodies: but, by speaking obscenely, you have killed their souls."

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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #48 on: November 11, 2024, 10:48:19 AM »
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  • Non sequitur of the year. And are you defending vulgarity 
    You sure he's "defending vulgarity"??  Buddy, you're in the wrong forum. 

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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #49 on: November 11, 2024, 10:51:35 AM »
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  • Non sequitur of the year. And are you defending vulgarity as the "lesser of two evils" now after railing against it? :laugh1: Cussing is indeed a sin and I have no idea why you'd reject Saint Paul and Saint Alphonsus and all the other Saints St. A cites. As for abortion and genocide, of course I've always opposed them and always will.

    Is deception a sin, to you? You seem to take delight in trying to fool everyone here by continually signing up with yet another personality, and then preaching to everyone here on what you want us to believe. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #50 on: November 11, 2024, 10:55:11 AM »
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  • You have no proof that I am who you think I am. Perhaps MarkM is a friend of the person you're thinking about. You don't know, you're just guessing. It's irrelevant anyway. Cussing is a sin, as St. Alphonsus clearly teaches us. The worldlings we live around may do it all the time, but Catholics shouldn't pick up the habit, or confess it if we did. Cussing is a sin. Our tongues that have so often received Our Blessed Lord in Holy Communion should be pure like the tongues of Angels and only speak of God and holy things. Not blaspheme, cuss, use vulgarities etc.

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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #51 on: November 11, 2024, 10:58:41 AM »
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  • You have no proof that I am who you think I am. Perhaps MarkM is a friend of the person you're thinking about. You don't know, you're just guessing. It's irrelevant anyway. Cussing is a sin, as St. Alphonsus clearly teaches us. The worldlings we live around may do it all the time, but Catholics shouldn't pick up the habit, or confess it if we did. Cussing is a sin. Our tongues that have so often received Our Blessed Lord in Holy Communion should be pure like the tongues of Angels and only speak of God and holy things. Not blaspheme, cuss, use vulgarities etc.

    So....your deception is only a sin if I have proof? You are not denying that you have had multiple accounts here. Though you may indeed have friends that are doing the same deceptive thing that you are doing here. Are you being paid to troll here? 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #52 on: November 11, 2024, 11:00:09 AM »
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  • I work for the Lord alone and am only interested in storing up treasures in Heaven as the Lord commanded in the Gospel. 


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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #53 on: November 11, 2024, 11:01:26 AM »
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  • I work for the Lord alone and am only interested in storing up treasures in Heaven as the Lord commanded in the Gospel.

    And the Lord is fine with you using deception as a means to store up treasures in Heaven? 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #54 on: November 11, 2024, 11:06:16 AM »
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  • I work for the Lord alone and am only interested in storing up treasures in Heaven as the Lord commanded in the Gospel.
    Question: 

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?

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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #55 on: November 11, 2024, 11:10:03 AM »
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  • Question:

    Is there salvation outside the Catholic Church?
    Answer: no. Pope Pius XII's Holy Office answered this clearly: "Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth."

    https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=5142 


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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #56 on: November 11, 2024, 11:16:53 AM »
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  • A great quote from St. Alphonsus:

    https://www.ecatholic2000.com/liguori/school/perfect.shtml

    CALUMNY AND SLANDER

    To practice charity in speech you must, above all things, avoid calumny and slander. He who has contracted this deplorable habit disfigures his own soul and is hated everywhere, as the Holy Ghost says: “He shall defile his own soul and shall be hated by all.” (Ecclus. 21:31). If there are some who agree with him at times and encourage him in speaking ill of his neighbor, these very persons will later avoid him and be on their guard against his venomous tongue. They reason, and justly so, that if he speaks ill of others to them, he will speak ill of them to others. St. Jerome remarks that many who have renounced the other vices seem not to be able to keep from uncharitable talk. Even among those who have vowed to strive after perfection there are many who cannot move their tongue without wounding someone. God grant they may not end their life as did one unhappy slanderer; when on his deathbed, he bit his tongue in a fit of rage, and in this condition he died. St. Bernard speaks of another who was about to speak ill of St. Malachy when suddenly his tongue became swollen and was devoured by worms; after seven days of terrible agony he died a wretched death.

    But, on the other hand, how dear to God and man is he who speaks well of everyone! “If in the course of his life, a man never spoke ill of his fellowman, I would consider him a saint,” says St. Mary Magdalen de Pazzi. Carefully guard against the habit of speaking unkindly of others, and especially of superiors. We render ourselves guilty of detraction not only when we reveal the hidden faults of our neighbor, but also when we interpret his good works amiss or assign to them an evil intention. It is a common fault with some people when speaking of their neighbor to begin with praise and end with blame. For example, “So and So is very capable; isn’t it too bad he’s so proud?” Or, “He is very generous, but he spoils it all by being revengeful.”

    Dear reader, try always to say only what is good of your neighbor. Speak of others as you would wish others to speak of you. And in regard to the absent, follow the beautiful advice of St. Mary Magdalen of Pazzi: “Say nothing of an absent brother that you would not wish to say in his presence.” When you hear others speaking unkindly, be careful not to encourage them by manifesting an interest or pleasure in what they say; you might otherwise be a partner in their guilt.

    “Six things there are,” says the Wise Man, “which the Lord hateth and the seventh his soul detesteth.” (Prov. 6:16). This seventh thing is the person who “soweth discord among brethren.” The talebearer goes about telling people what he has heard others say of them. He scatters the seeds of discord, enmity, quarrels and revenge. How severe the account such tongues will have to give before the judgment seat of God. If in the heat of passion one person speaks ill of another, we can have patience with him; most likely he will repent of what he has said. But how can the Lord be patient with those who deliberately sow seeds of discord and strife and destroy the peace and happiness of their fellow men? “Hast thou heard a word against thy neighbor?” says the Holy Ghost; “let it die within thee, trusting that it will not burst thee.” (Ecclus. 19:10). You must not be satisfied merely to enclose it in your heart; you must let it die there.
    There are people who, on hearing a secret, seem to suffer the agonies of death until they can make it known in some way. Their secret is like a thorn that is piercing the heart and it must be torn out as soon as possible. Do not act in this way. If you know that your neighbor has committed a fault, be silent about it. Only then, when the good of others or of the guilty one demands it, may you reveal what you know.

    In conversation, as far as possible avoid disputes. There are some people who have such a spirit of contradiction that they seem to take pleasure in always questioning what others say, even though it be of little or no importance. Thus little trifles sometimes give rise to a war of words; charity is wounded and the bonds of friendship are broken beyond repair. “Strive not in a matter which doth not concern thee,” says the Wise Man. (Ecclus. 11:9).

    But, you will say: “I am right; I cannot bear to hear such absurd talk.” Listen to what Cardinal Bellarmine says: “An ounce of charity is better than tons of right.” To yield in a war of words is to win a victory, for you grow in virtue and preserve peace, which is better far than obstinately maintaining your right.

    When you are offended or spoken to in an angry way, try to reply with meekness. If you are too agitated to do so it is better to say nothing at all, for in the heat of passion you may think what you say is right and proper, but afterwards, when the excitement has passed away, you will regret what you have said. An eye that is disturbed by anger, says St. Bernard, cannot see what is right or wrong. Passion is like a black veil that is drawn before the eyes; while it is there we cannot see things in their proper light. When he who offends you asks pardon, be generous enough to grant it in a gracious manner. If you have offended another be quick to repair the harm you have done. St. Bernard says, the best way to heal the wound you have inflicted by uncharitableness is to humble yourself. The longer you delay, the harder it becomes, and eventually you may neglect it altogether. Our Blessed Saviour once said: “If thou offer thy gift at the altar, and there thou remember that thy brother hath anything against thee; leave thy offering before the altar, and go first to be reconciled to thy brother: and then coming thou shalt offer thy gift.” (Matt. 5:23). But if it should happen that such self-humiliation would only anger the offended person the more, endeavor by some other means to quiet him.


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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #57 on: November 11, 2024, 11:19:04 AM »
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  • Poche used to post a recipe per week. 
    You knew Poche here?

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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #58 on: November 11, 2024, 11:25:46 AM »
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    Re: Something sinister is afoot here
    « Reply #59 on: November 11, 2024, 12:09:34 PM »
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  • You're just a jerk these days. Sad.

    Pretty sure that's not something new, but I gotta give credit to him for this thread. I do think that there is a coordinated attack on Cathinfo from the three usernames mentioned, and it is likely that they are the same person, or three persons working together. But I don't believe that he/they are any sort of traditionalist. Probably not even a Novus Ordo Catholic, as in not Catholic at all, though I could be wrong about that
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29